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Rhoklaw
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11/23/08 3:24:46 AM#81
Why are people still caught up in the graphics? This game isn't even about graphics. It's about PvP and diverse economy and combat system. In fact, this game is probably the closest to old school D&D since EQ and probably even closer than EQ. I'm not saying I know anything about the game, only what I've read. I just think if what they say is in the game at launch truely is there, than this just might be one hell of a game. |
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11/23/08 3:25:21 AM#82
woah woah woah!! dude...stop talking about maturity...your WAY out of your league on that one. Obviously he is the mature one since he doesnt go rushing into battle and post on every damn DF thread cuz he likes seeing his own txt. As for graphics...YES AoC and LoTR totally BEATS DF BY FAR in that area. As for the screen shots on the OP...meh..crap and although they look to be real, I can imagine parts of them were photoshopped. Im sorry but its a well known FACT that everyone in beta agrees to the NDA. If regular testers cant show anything, than that post is not a credible source. If it was there would be in game screens on THIS site. Even IGN would not dare break the NDA for any beta.
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11/23/08 3:44:33 AM#83
Originally posted by ganton LotRO runs on a very polished AC2 engine, thats from early 2000. The graphics are very pretty, seem like a nice fantasy painting, but you can see where the limitations of the engine shows through, the trees especially. LotRO is pretty, but its not the top graphic beast to beat. The games with the best graphics on the market right now are Vanguard and AoC.
Why are you changing topic??? I never was saying LOTRO is the best, I know AOC is waaay better then anything else out there as Ive played everything else lol. You said Darkfall>LOTRO and Im asking you to prove it. I can easily pull up picks from LOTRO and Darkfall and clearly show how LOTRO is better in every aspect if you want.
And what does AOC sacrifice to deliver near single player level graphics for a MMO? That's right they shove you into little tiny boxes and connect them together and give you 4 linear paths to move through them. They offer you siege, but they shove you yet again into a tiny box to do it. Collect resources, another tiny box. Lotro is also about as shallow as a teaspoon when compare with gameplay and freedom in Darkfall. Those tree's in Lotro don't exactly stay there do they with view distance? The review has confirmed that all the promises for this game seem to be in. If that's half true, then it's far more deeper and richer in gameplay than WOW, LOTRO, AOC, WAR combined! If you think one game is better than another based on graphics, then you my friend are sadly mistaken. The indie gaming scene is thriving on the Pc, or did you fail to notice? |
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originalegg
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Joined: 10/09/06
Darkfall Releases - February 25th!!! Vaporware trolls = scum |
11/23/08 3:48:12 AM#84
Originally posted by gamerman98
nice to see you continue to bash games without knowing anything about them... oh and please teach me your matureways......maybe something like how to make blog posts that do nothing but flame other posters cause you get all worked up in a thread....and the have your blogs deleted by mods for harrasment. mature.... DF > Lotro im my opinion...others opinoins too....lots of em. And you are certainly welcome tothink otherwise. ---sig---
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how about we actually talk about the review? MMO wish list: -Changeable worlds |
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originalegg
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Joined: 10/09/06
Darkfall Releases - February 25th!!! Vaporware trolls = scum |
11/23/08 3:59:06 AM#86
Originally posted by Death1942
no offense death, but the second post in this thread was sarcastic. your thread is like the 4th thread on this topic and it has been discussed to death. ---sig---
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11/23/08 4:18:06 AM#87
Darkfall graphics at worste are terrible. At best , they are mediocre and don't go beyond something you'd see from 2003'ish. The animations are basic crap. Really strange how they didn't care about motion capture animations which you can get made for like $90 a pop. The art style and direction is shit. The overall modelling work is basic, generic stuff. The texturing work again is basic, generic stuff and some of it borders on just plain bad. The engine does not even use standard things like Normal mapping, Per pixel lighting. It's old as sin. Anyone who thinks the game has better graphics than LOTRO needs to go get sterilized so they dont' spead their genes around. |
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11/23/08 4:26:29 AM#88
Looks good to me. Lets just hope is runs alright and it's a buy for me.
Not too sure why anyone cares about graphics though. If anything, Blizzard proved graphics don't make a game. |
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11/23/08 4:30:10 AM#89
Originally posted by rokhazulu sorry to tell you but World of Warcraft / Lich king graphics are FAR better than anythig I see in these Darkfall screenshots. |
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originalegg
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Darkfall Releases - February 25th!!! Vaporware trolls = scum |
11/23/08 4:31:49 AM#90
Originally posted by rokhazulu
looks good to me too man....and a whole lot of other people too! and yea, they beat the hell out of WoW, WAR etc graphics....but thats not why anyone is hyped about the game...its just an added bonus that the graphics are turning out to be so good. ---sig---
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11/23/08 4:42:15 AM#91
Originally posted by originalegg
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11/23/08 4:51:47 AM#92
Originally posted by TenSpotting
Hehe.. are you saying that WoW have better graphics than DFO? Yes ofcourse you are.. heheheheheh
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11/23/08 4:53:26 AM#93
AoC and Lotro are sterile worlds made from plastic. They are pleasant to look at but serve no function whatsoever. It's like buying a cheap car, and dressing it up in a racing kit. It looks like it will do 200 mph but its just for show. Darkfall may not gleam and glitter, but it has weather systems, night and day, animals can even smell you! Lotro or AoC aren't bad games, DF is another league entirely. |
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originalegg
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Joined: 10/09/06
Darkfall Releases - February 25th!!! Vaporware trolls = scum |
11/23/08 4:54:06 AM#94
DF > WoW and it isnt even close IN MY OPINION and the opinion of many others! ---sig---
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DarthRaiden
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Joined: 11/20/05
i make art, Forum Terrorist |
11/23/08 5:36:44 AM#95
Originally posted by Drukstylz
/QFE -----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- "There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE) |
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11/23/08 5:45:36 AM#96
Originally posted by originalegg Your comparison here makes no sence at all as your comparing a cityscape scene from far away with a WoW scene really close up to the charecter models. Not that im saying WoW has good graphics, but in the end you do yourself no favours by posting biassed comparisons like this. Another great example of Moore's Law. Give people access to that much space (developers and users alike) and they'll find uses for it that you can never imagine. "640K ought to be enough for anybody" - Bill Gates 1981 |
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DarthRaiden
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Joined: 11/20/05
i make art, Forum Terrorist |
11/23/08 5:49:36 AM#97
Originally posted by HYPERI0N Your comparison here makes no sence at all as your comparing a cityscape scene from far away with a WoW scene really close up to the charecter models. Not that im saying WoW has good graphics, but in the end you do yourself no favours by posting biassed comparisons like this.
You do yourself no favour believing any comparsion between WoW and DF is worthwhile. -----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- "There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE) |
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11/23/08 12:12:12 PM#98
Originally posted by Boreil
I actually do play AOC and own but dont currently play LOTRO. I was saying nothing about Darkfall's gameplay, for all we know it could be the best thing since canned cheese but we wont know thtat till its released. All I was saying was that the graphics come no were close to lotro or aoc which people were claiming in another thread, anyone who isnt blind can obviously see from looking at the screenshots that the graphic level is nowere close to those 2 games and you can bring up artistic style or whatever you want but technologically aoc and lotro blow away darkfall in graphics.
Its all in the eye of the player and his opinion , i my self like Df grafix better than anything on the market today , its got that old school look and feel , its Gritty and dark and sets the mood perfect for the game and its setting. Lotro i never realy liked the grafix , they look good and great in some places ( i play it with Dx10) but still its not the type of grafix i realy like , its not realistic enough for my taste and im sure im not the only one , they are almost a mix of realistic and cartoony grafix . AoC on high settigs looks great also in most cases , but thats it , and on low setting it looks like crap imo , and doing sieges in low settings and still getting crap fps ( at launch ) was just terrible, and thats not even touching on some of the textures and grafix glitches etc etc. Point is to some DF grafix are great in most cases , personaly i wouldnt want them any other way , not sure if i would be so omg interested if it didnt have that old school gritty dark mideval look and feeling to it, every time i see another screen shot it makes me want to play even more. completely agree. i think they fit the setting perfectly. |
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11/23/08 12:41:24 PM#99
The fact is, online rpgs have never been made or broken based upon graphics. Everquest was the first smash hit MMO. It just barely passed as an adequate 3d environment even when it came out. I loved it, but not for the graphics. Rather for its provision of a dynamic multiplayer 3D environment. When WoW came out, it was much lower on the polygon count than any concurrent game, including the upgraded EQ character models. No one needs to speak for WoW's success. Through the 90s, people were huddling in chat rooms and muds by the thousands, before MMO's come out. If an mmo can provide a community, entertainment and a gaming challenge all wrapped in one, it will succeed regardless if the graphics are top notch. Heck, WoW succeeds without the gaming challenge with only some end game content being the exception. Especially if its providing something new or not currently offered (like Darkfall is). ___ |
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