Yeah did this 1.5 years ago I realized whats the point of doing it again when they will just do another gear reset , reskin a few dungeons and release an xpac.

I got to 70 and thats good enough some people will need to reach 80 or 90 before they realize the same thing no problem as some people have a higher tolerance for pain.

Arena season 5 and tier 7 are high enough for me some need their tier 8 or 9 and arena season 6 or 7.

Atelast Blizzard supports recycling it really is a great concept and helps the enviorment.

Originally posted by Azrile

Nice try though.   I'm sorry Warhammer is failing so badly and is merging 60% of their north american servers. 

WoW ! I am playing Warhammer- NA and this is big news coming from someone who is not even playing Warhammer. So they are merging 60% of the servers without any notice at all! This is insane. So I can log in and see my character in 4-5 servers and I might not even realize that.

Thanks for letting us know Azrile.

Originally posted by Xtort

Originally posted by Azrile

Nice try though.   I'm sorry Warhammer is failing so badly and is merging 60% of their north american servers. 

 

WoW ! I am playing Warhammer- NA and this is big news coming from someone who is not even playing Warhammer. So they are merging 60% of the servers without any notice at all! This is insane. So I can log in and see my character in 4-5 servers and I might not even realize that.

Thanks for letting us know Azrile.

Oh come on Xtort.   There is no reason to pretend that Mythic isn't merging servers just because they are not closing down the old ones.  When you log into a server and the management has put a freaking pop up message WARNING you that you should play on another server, that tells the whole story.  They are server mergers no matter how you try to paint them.

Before you go crying, yes I have an active account. 

To the original poster:  Remove the open realm battles and there is not a single thing worth paying a monthly fee for in Warhammer.  Even the RvR while fun is questionable at best.  I can't even begin to describe how much better lich king is that my time in warhammer since the release.  Tomorrow I get to check out wintergrasp and see how that is.  From everything I have seen so far from lich king I have no reason not to believe it will be better that Warhammers open realm combat. 

Originally posted by Daffid011

Originally posted by Xtort

Originally posted by Azrile

Nice try though.   I'm sorry Warhammer is failing so badly and is merging 60% of their north american servers. 

 

WoW ! I am playing Warhammer- NA and this is big news coming from someone who is not even playing Warhammer. So they are merging 60% of the servers without any notice at all! This is insane. So I can log in and see my character in 4-5 servers and I might not even realize that.

Thanks for letting us know Azrile.

 

Oh come on Xtort.   There is no reason to pretend that Mythic isn't merging servers just because they are not closing down the old ones.  When you log into a server and the management has put a freaking pop up message WARNING you that you should play on another server, that tells the whole story.  They are server mergers no matter how you try to paint them.

 

Before you go crying, yes I have an active account. 

 

To the original poster:  Remove the open realm battles and there is not a single thing worth paying a monthly fee for in Warhammer.  Even the RvR while fun is questionable at best.  I can't even begin to describe how much better lich king is that my time in warhammer since the release.  Tomorrow I get to check out wintergrasp and see how that is.  From everything I have seen so far from lich king I have no reason not to believe it will be better that Warhammers open realm combat. 

 

Wintergrasp is terrible and pointless.

The tier 4 open RVR in Warhammer is amazing, it changes the map, unlocks new zones and ties into the PVE game as well.

There's actual tactics in mass PVP in Warhammer, tanks using hold the line and huge formation battles with actual fronts.

WoW is just a zerg of kids running around spamming buttons at each other, Wintergrasp shows that clearly. The only real PVP in WoW is arena, and I can't stand that any more :)

Originally posted by Greyhooff 

Wintergrasp is terrible and pointless.

The tier 4 open RVR in Warhammer is amazing

Aren't you a beautifull and unique snowlake you?

Originally posted by SonofSeth

Originally posted by Greyhooff 

Wintergrasp is terrible and pointless.

The tier 4 open RVR in Warhammer is amazing

 

Aren't you a beautifull and unique snowlake you?

 

 

 

 

Well surely it's obvious Wintergrasp is a poor man's copy of the tier 4 RVR model of Warhammer, except without the actual world PVP, without the zone locks, and without the endgame PVP of sieging and sacking the enemy capital :)

Wintergrasp is just 1 keep siege in an isolated place, that has nothing to do with the rest of the game. You don't even get top tier PVP gear there (that's only in arenas still)

Wintergrasp is just a BG, like Alterac Valley, it's about time they released AV2, but it's still lackluster compared to the world PVP in WAR :)

Originally posted by Greyhooff

Originally posted by wjrasmussen

Originally posted by Greyhooff

So I took the advice of people on here, bought the xpac and played it, levelling my warrior to 73.

I have to say, I'm already bored - it's the same thing as I did in TBC and quite frankly the graphics are terrible, blocky and the armors look awful (it doesn't help that I'm a human and the human models are blocky and ugly)

The quests are the same old stuff, and although there's some cutscene bits, it's the same gather xp by doing pointless stuff that I've seen before. There's no decent PVP, and I miss the tactics and immediate PVP from Warhammer, where I levelled by doing a rotation of scenarios while questing and doing PQ stages.

I'll continue to 80 and farm Naxx 25man, Malygos and Sart with my old guild for a bit. They've already killed every boss in the game and I'll just pick up the epics when I get there, but for now I find the expansion to be a boring, easy and soulless cash-cow.

 

What is up with you?  Did you expect a major change? Remember NGE and what it did to swg?  Major changes are risky and players are fickle.  They are doing what millions have paid them for and because it obvsiously worked.

 

I agree and in a way it's stupid of me for faulting WoW for being WoW, I just find it boring and skillless, I guess I've moved on to bigger and better things :)

If you consider WAR this, then you are a failure, and have yet to realize that WAR is also a failure.  And that the only reason why the game isn't mind blowingly easy and repetitive, is because you want it to not be because its new.

Let's see, grind scenarios, grind pq,s grind instances, grind open rvr(which when i played, and from my friend who still plays) mostly is just taking empty keeps and then a little defense here and there.

Originally posted by Greyhooff

Originally posted by Daffid011

Originally posted by Xtort

Originally posted by Azrile

Nice try though.   I'm sorry Warhammer is failing so badly and is merging 60% of their north american servers. 

 

WoW ! I am playing Warhammer- NA and this is big news coming from someone who is not even playing Warhammer. So they are merging 60% of the servers without any notice at all! This is insane. So I can log in and see my character in 4-5 servers and I might not even realize that.

Thanks for letting us know Azrile.

 

Oh come on Xtort.   There is no reason to pretend that Mythic isn't merging servers just because they are not closing down the old ones.  When you log into a server and the management has put a freaking pop up message WARNING you that you should play on another server, that tells the whole story.  They are server mergers no matter how you try to paint them.

 

Before you go crying, yes I have an active account. 

 

To the original poster:  Remove the open realm battles and there is not a single thing worth paying a monthly fee for in Warhammer.  Even the RvR while fun is questionable at best.  I can't even begin to describe how much better lich king is that my time in warhammer since the release.  Tomorrow I get to check out wintergrasp and see how that is.  From everything I have seen so far from lich king I have no reason not to believe it will be better that Warhammers open realm combat. 

 

 

Wintergrasp is terrible and pointless.

The tier 4 open RVR in Warhammer is amazing, it changes the map, unlocks new zones and ties into the PVE game as well.

There's actual tactics in mass PVP in Warhammer, tanks using hold the line and huge formation battles with actual fronts.

WoW is just a zerg of kids running around spamming buttons at each other, Wintergrasp shows that clearly. The only real PVP in WoW is arena, and I can't stand that any more :)

It's a shame that everything in WAR is pointless.

Everything.

Why?

Because theres no point to it.  It's that simple, WAR isn't that interestingly unique and it's engame is FAR worse then DAoC ever was, even with ToA.

Originally posted by Bladin

Originally posted by Greyhooff

Originally posted by Daffid011

Originally posted by Xtort

Originally posted by Azrile

Nice try though.   I'm sorry Warhammer is failing so badly and is merging 60% of their north american servers. 

 

WoW ! I am playing Warhammer- NA and this is big news coming from someone who is not even playing Warhammer. So they are merging 60% of the servers without any notice at all! This is insane. So I can log in and see my character in 4-5 servers and I might not even realize that.

Thanks for letting us know Azrile.

 

Oh come on Xtort.   There is no reason to pretend that Mythic isn't merging servers just because they are not closing down the old ones.  When you log into a server and the management has put a freaking pop up message WARNING you that you should play on another server, that tells the whole story.  They are server mergers no matter how you try to paint them.

 

Before you go crying, yes I have an active account. 

 

To the original poster:  Remove the open realm battles and there is not a single thing worth paying a monthly fee for in Warhammer.  Even the RvR while fun is questionable at best.  I can't even begin to describe how much better lich king is that my time in warhammer since the release.  Tomorrow I get to check out wintergrasp and see how that is.  From everything I have seen so far from lich king I have no reason not to believe it will be better that Warhammers open realm combat. 

 

 

Wintergrasp is terrible and pointless.

The tier 4 open RVR in Warhammer is amazing, it changes the map, unlocks new zones and ties into the PVE game as well.

There's actual tactics in mass PVP in Warhammer, tanks using hold the line and huge formation battles with actual fronts.

WoW is just a zerg of kids running around spamming buttons at each other, Wintergrasp shows that clearly. The only real PVP in WoW is arena, and I can't stand that any more :)

 

It's a shame that everything in WAR is pointless.

Everything.

Why?

Because theres no point to it.  It's that simple, WAR isn't that interestingly unique and it's engame is FAR worse then DAoC ever was, even with ToA.

haha funny same thing can be said for WOW grind gear to get more gear is that a point? Well great season 5 awaits you get to it  and let me know what the point is.
 

Tell me something that has a point in WOW that is not just to get new gear actually tell me one thing in WOW you do that is not just for more gear.

If BG's gave no honor and no gear would you do them? If raids gave no gear would you do them? Big questions for a big game why do you play it again ask yourself. Nevermind we all know the answer.

Enjoy endgame you WOWboys said only 1 guild cleared the game in 3 days now its well over 60 so whats the new excuse?

Powergrinders whatever this Xpac was weak for the amount of money Blizz makes its so sad you support them doing so little with your money maybe you can find some common ground with the AOC players since they pay more for less as well. You say 11 million subs I say 11 million suckers neither one of us is right just a different opinion.

Hahaha, Greyhoof, who can hardly mention WoW on the WAR forums without vomiting over the last few weeks and we're supposed to believe you bought Wotlk and (big surprise) found it lacking? Rofl

Originally posted by Greyhooff

So I took the advice of people on here, bought the xpac and played it, levelling my warrior to 73.

I have to say, I'm already bored - it's the same thing as I did in TBC and quite frankly the graphics are terrible, blocky and the armors look awful (it doesn't help that I'm a human and the human models are blocky and ugly)

The quests are the same old stuff, and although there's some cutscene bits, it's the same gather xp by doing pointless stuff that I've seen before. There's no decent PVP, and I miss the tactics and immediate PVP from Warhammer, where I levelled by doing a rotation of scenarios while questing and doing PQ stages.

I'll continue to 80 and farm Naxx 25man, Malygos and Sart with my old guild for a bit. They've already killed every boss in the game and I'll just pick up the epics when I get there, but for now I find the expansion to be a boring, easy and soulless cash-cow.

No, you didn't buy Wrath, and no you don't know jack about it, you're just saing you bought it to say crap like this.

The GFX in northrend is far superior to Warhammer in EVERY single way, it isn't blocky at all, what maschine are you playing on? a Commandore 64?

I've seen loads of fun reference quest, not to mention the special lore quests with special events, you are utterly full of bs, i've seen so many funny reference quests to movies and characters from 70-72, more than vanilla wow and TBC combined.

"I miss the tactics and immediate PVP from Warhammer"

Haha, oh dear god, are you serious?  Warhammer was a bloody dumbed down version of WoW and in the "tactic", it was zerg, zerg, and bigger zerg, all about numbers and no tactics.

I am enjoying  WoW once again, after 8 months not playing it, and i can without a doubt say that you aren't one of the people playing the game, else you would have told things differently, at least told something that actual would sound like you played it.
 

Level 74 now and yes, the graphics in wotlk are a bit better then old WoW, but they are still ugly and blocky compared to WAR. WAR's graphics are much sharper, and more detailed, and the humans don't look like something an 8 year old would draw :)

For what it's worth, I understand that WOTLK is a fine game, it does what it does and that is provide an easy, linear timesink game with no real objective, nothing that will change the game world, but where you can get epics and chat with friends.

I just want something more. I want zone unlocks, massive world PVP with tactics (and yes, WoW has no mass PVP tactics, the tanking classes don't tank in PVP so there's no front lines, it's just people zerging each other) and real changes in the game world

I want HARD endgame PVE with real challenges (which WAR has and WOTLK doesn't), and although the graphics in WoW are ok, they're just a bit too blocky and simplistic, so I am enjoying my time on WAR quite a bit more due to all that.

EDIT: Is it just me or anyone else just can't STAND the utter stupidity of dancing cow men any more. I used to be fine with Tauren, I even played one pre-tbc, but now I can't stand to look at them any more, it's just childish and moronic to have playable cows in a game. It's weird, that never used to bother me until now

Greyhoof if we wanna play WAR we will no need to bash games just to make WAR look better. If you are bored quit its really that easy but posting on these forums with your responses does nothing.

If you really expected jaw dropping grahics from WOW then you need to read more before you buy a game as the info was out there. I have never seen one post saying graphics were to die for.

The quests what did you expect arthas to give you head? Go to GTA for that its a MMO all MMO's will have the same type of quests as WOW as long as they use a leveling system.

Why farm epics when they are just really the same acomplishment as blues before BC? Makes no sense you obviously just want to kill WOW for WAR but why not give give WAR more time it needs it.

Originally posted by Qmire

 

No, you didn't buy Wrath, and no you don't know jack about it, you're just saing you bought it to say crap like this.

 

*ding* *ding* *ding* Winner!

Does anyone here truly believe that someone who can't open his mouth without speaking badly of WoW on the WAR forums suddenly buys Wotlk to *try it*? Please, he came here to promote WAR which is obvious from his every breath and anyone that reads him can clearly tell he wouldn't be caught dead even touching WOW, not to mention there's 0 logic to him even bothering when WAR is so great :)

Originally posted by Pheace

Originally posted by Qmire

 

No, you didn't buy Wrath, and no you don't know jack about it, you're just saing you bought it to say crap like this.

 

 

 

*ding* *ding* *ding* Winner!

 

Does anyone here truly believe that someone who can't open his mouth without speaking badly of WoW on the WAR forums suddenly buys Wotlk to *try it*? Please, he came here to promote WAR which is obvious from his every breath and anyone that reads him can clearly tell he wouldn't be caught dead even touching WOW, not to mention there's 0 logic to him even bothering when WAR is so great :)

I tried it and although I do believe that the OP is a troll it leaves room for discussion. So tell me what so great about the Xpac and please spare me the "it has 11 million subs it must be good" That is old it has little effect.
 

Originally posted by jblah

Originally posted by Pheace

Originally posted by Qmire

 

No, you didn't buy Wrath, and no you don't know jack about it, you're just saing you bought it to say crap like this.

 

 

 

*ding* *ding* *ding* Winner!

 

Does anyone here truly believe that someone who can't open his mouth without speaking badly of WoW on the WAR forums suddenly buys Wotlk to *try it*? Please, he came here to promote WAR which is obvious from his every breath and anyone that reads him can clearly tell he wouldn't be caught dead even touching WOW, not to mention there's 0 logic to him even bothering when WAR is so great :)

I tried it and although I do believe that the OP is a troll it leaves room for discussion. So tell me what so great about the Xpac and please spare me the "it has 11 million subs it must be good" That is old it has little effect.
 

 

You tried it, you can find posts about people on what's so great about it all over the internet. Why *didn't* you like it, that is more interesting. Tell us, I have no problem with people argueing why they don't like something, I just don't believe the OP is here for anything other than bashing a game based on false "experiences". 

I almost completely agree with the OP on this one. A few small points I differ on but for the most part he's right. I don't know about the "blocky" aspect, but the new xpac is more of the same that TBC offered. I'm finding I am only enjoying the music of the game anymore. For this reason, I cancelled my sub for now until some major changes happen in WoW, i.e. housing, collections, etc. Its just not a "world" anymore, not sure it ever was.

I don't hate the game, I'm just not happy with footing the bill for the same thing over and over.

Originally posted by Pheace

Originally posted by jblah

Originally posted by Pheace

Originally posted by Qmire

 

No, you didn't buy Wrath, and no you don't know jack about it, you're just saing you bought it to say crap like this.

 

 

 

*ding* *ding* *ding* Winner!

 

Does anyone here truly believe that someone who can't open his mouth without speaking badly of WoW on the WAR forums suddenly buys Wotlk to *try it*? Please, he came here to promote WAR which is obvious from his every breath and anyone that reads him can clearly tell he wouldn't be caught dead even touching WOW, not to mention there's 0 logic to him even bothering when WAR is so great :)

I tried it and although I do believe that the OP is a troll it leaves room for discussion. So tell me what so great about the Xpac and please spare me the "it has 11 million subs it must be good" That is old it has little effect.
 

 

 

You tried it, you can find posts about people on what's so great about it all over the internet. Why *didn't* you like it, that is more interesting. Tell us, I have no problem with people argueing why they don't like something, I just don't believe the OP is here for anything other than bashing a game based on false "experiences". 

Ok I will not avoid the question as you did and reference nothing. The PVE is weak and easy no real story line and the story that is there is broken and not complete.
 

Give me a dungeon that is not some redone previous dungeon from before they just have new skins same tactics. Give me a previous Xpac in any game where a guild cleared it so fast let alone several. If you are still in denial about that check bosskillers website and check the top ten then you can check the history on the other 40 or so guilds behind the top 10.

You love WOW and thats great and after following your posts for a long time and you being so critical of other games its such a shame to see you so easily pleased by the terd Blizzard pooped for you.

I expected you of all people to realize a weak attempt at an Xpac but I guess you are just another one of the herd. You were one of the posters that I always read the responses to and now you go with the Blizzard is the best regardless of what they do crowd.

Thats fine 11 million others do as well guess you are not unique when you have season 5/ tier 7 let me know what you are doing I await your response in a few weeks assuming you are a caual player as that is what it will take for a human with a brain not on Prozack to complete this Xpac.

Yes I am in a guild that is 1 boss from finishing the content in case ya wanted to ask I have not done all of it myself but the people in my guild have jobs, kids and wives so they are not basement dwellers.

It really is that easy if you truely support this Xpac then that says alot about you and your posts as I have always read them but maybe I was wrong.

Originally posted by jblah

Ok I will not avoid the question as you did and reference nothing. The PVE is weak and easy no real story line and the story that is there is broken and not complete.
 

Give me a dungeon that is not some redone previous dungeon from before they just have new skins same tactics. Give me a previous Xpac in any game where a guild cleared it so fast let alone several. If you are still in denial about that check bosskillers website and check the top ten then you can check the history on the other 40 or so guilds behind the top 10.

You love WOW and thats great and after following your posts for a long time and you being so critical of other games its such a shame to see you so easily pleased by the terd Blizzard pooped for you.

I expected you of all people to realize a weak attempt at an Xpac but I guess you are just another one of the herd. You were one of the posters that I always read the responses to and now you go with the Blizzard is the best regardless of what they do crowd.

Thats fine 11 million others do as well guess you are not unique when you have season 5/ tier 7 let me know what you are doing I await your response in a few weeks assuming you are a caual player as that is what it will take for a human with a brain not on Prozack to complete this Xpac.

Yes I am in a guild that is 1 boss from finishing the content in case ya wanted to ask I have not done all of it myself but the people in my guild have jobs, kids and wives so they are not basement dwellers.

It really is that easy if you truely support this Xpac then that says alot about you and your posts as I have always read them but maybe I was wrong.

The reason you fail is because you can't detach yourself from your argument. Therefore you become your argument and going against it would be going against you, so only course of action you left yourself is to take that personal engagement to someone else by attacking him and not his argument.

You can't deny WotLK the critical acclaim it's getting, or the wallet votes, what you can do is deny it your approval. Until you realise and admit that, your opinion is as valuable as a writing on a wall in a random mens room.

Originally posted by SonofSeth

Originally posted by jblah

Ok I will not avoid the question as you did and reference nothing. The PVE is weak and easy no real story line and the story that is there is broken and not complete.
 

Give me a dungeon that is not some redone previous dungeon from before they just have new skins same tactics. Give me a previous Xpac in any game where a guild cleared it so fast let alone several. If you are still in denial about that check bosskillers website and check the top ten then you can check the history on the other 40 or so guilds behind the top 10.

You love WOW and thats great and after following your posts for a long time and you being so critical of other games its such a shame to see you so easily pleased by the terd Blizzard pooped for you.

I expected you of all people to realize a weak attempt at an Xpac but I guess you are just another one of the herd. You were one of the posters that I always read the responses to and now you go with the Blizzard is the best regardless of what they do crowd.

Thats fine 11 million others do as well guess you are not unique when you have season 5/ tier 7 let me know what you are doing I await your response in a few weeks assuming you are a caual player as that is what it will take for a human with a brain not on Prozack to complete this Xpac.

Yes I am in a guild that is 1 boss from finishing the content in case ya wanted to ask I have not done all of it myself but the people in my guild have jobs, kids and wives so they are not basement dwellers.

It really is that easy if you truely support this Xpac then that says alot about you and your posts as I have always read them but maybe I was wrong.

The reason you fail is because you can't detach yourself from your argument. Therefore you become your argument and going against it would be going against you, so only course of action you left yourself is to take that personal engagement to someone else by attacking him and not his argument.

You can't deny WotLK the critical acclaim it's getting, or the wallet votes, what you can do is deny it your approval. Until you realise and admit that, your opinion is as valuable as a writing on a wall in a random mens room.

 

Ok so to sum up what you said the same game rating sites that gave AOC a 9-9.5 gave it a great review and it has 11 million subs.
 

Ok got it thank you way to dodge the topic and attach yourself to the discussion( thats what big boys have are discussions it is an open forum) and my opinion is just that an opinion as is yours and they could both be on a bathroom wall if that is where you choose to display it.

I chose here on this website that has WOW well ranked out of the top 20 as far as ranking and acclaim go. Let me guess no one uses this website or everyone here hates WOW right ? Yeah you guys always say the same stuff 11 million subs.... and everyone hates WOW because its the cool thing to do.

You guys sound like the AOC community minus the subs ofcourse. If you would like to discuss further or argue on the internets as you perfer to call it please post again

Oh and I did not attack the person I quoted I simply stated my disapointment in his POV considering how harsh he is on every other game in every forum he posts in. Thought there was some actual reason behind it not just a very well hidden WOW fan.

Originally posted by jblah

Originally posted by SonofSeth

Originally posted by jblah

Ok I will not avoid the question as you did and reference nothing. The PVE is weak and easy no real story line and the story that is there is broken and not complete.
 

Give me a dungeon that is not some redone previous dungeon from before they just have new skins same tactics. Give me a previous Xpac in any game where a guild cleared it so fast let alone several. If you are still in denial about that check bosskillers website and check the top ten then you can check the history on the other 40 or so guilds behind the top 10.

You love WOW and thats great and after following your posts for a long time and you being so critical of other games its such a shame to see you so easily pleased by the terd Blizzard pooped for you.

I expected you of all people to realize a weak attempt at an Xpac but I guess you are just another one of the herd. You were one of the posters that I always read the responses to and now you go with the Blizzard is the best regardless of what they do crowd.

Thats fine 11 million others do as well guess you are not unique when you have season 5/ tier 7 let me know what you are doing I await your response in a few weeks assuming you are a caual player as that is what it will take for a human with a brain not on Prozack to complete this Xpac.

Yes I am in a guild that is 1 boss from finishing the content in case ya wanted to ask I have not done all of it myself but the people in my guild have jobs, kids and wives so they are not basement dwellers.

It really is that easy if you truely support this Xpac then that says alot about you and your posts as I have always read them but maybe I was wrong.

The reason you fail is because you can't detach yourself from your argument. Therefore you become your argument and going against it would be going against you, so only course of action you left yourself is to take that personal engagement to someone else by attacking him and not his argument.

You can't deny WotLK the critical acclaim it's getting, or the wallet votes, what you can do is deny it your approval. Until you realise and admit that, your opinion is as valuable as a writing on a wall in a random mens room.

 

Ok so to sum up what you said the same game rating sites that gave AOC a 9-9.5 gave it a great review and it has 11 million subs.
 

Ok got it thank you way to dodge the topic and attach yourself to the discussion( thats what big boys have are discussions it is an open forum) and my opinion is just that an opinion as is yours and they could both be on a bathroom wall if that is where you choose to display it.

I chose here on this website that has WOW well ranked out of the top 20 as far as ranking and acclaim go. Let me guess no one uses this website or everyone here hates WOW right ? Yeah you guys always say the same stuff 11 million subs.... and everyone hates WOW because its the cool thing to do.

You guys sound like the AOC community minus the subs ofcourse. If you would like to discuss further or argue on the internets as you perfer to call it please post again

Oh and I did not attack the person I quoted I simply stated my disapointment in his POV considering how harsh he is on every other game in every forum he posts in. Thought there was some actual reason behind it not just a very well hidden WOW fan.

Why are you constantly on about "the cool thing"?

QUOTE "Did you listen to Brittany Spears and hang out at Starbucks also? Just curious as no one ever has anything to add really your POV seems very empty and the only message I hear is play my game because everyone else does PERIOD"

We aren't all in high school, some of us don't live in your world of cool and not cool, we just do what we enjoy and don't overanalyze it.

It's a joke watching you dance around on your soapbox telling people they shouldn't be enjoying the game that they enjoy.   Quit being so emo and let go of the hate, it's just a game, it's like you feel threatened by it and have to convince everyone to think like you do.

Move along, and bring your ego with you.

Awesome Krogg I love your replies not bashing the game of WOW I am stating my opinion that WotLK is a weak Xpac if you dont agree please explain and provide something to discuss.

This is an open forum and I like a good discussion and always keep in mind you choose to read these posts maybe you thought the title of the thread meant something else or you were expecting to actually have something positive to say about WOW besides 11 million subs.

As I said in a previous post feel free to disagree with me but if you really have nothing to say then just read and move on. I highly encourage you to tell me why my opinion is wrong( its an opinion it cant be wrong silly only disagreed with)

Please explain why the OP and others like him should not be bored and /or why you think its cool. Or you can just give a weak reply that I will probably respond to since I am at work and bored on a Saturday morning.

Originally posted by Greyhooff

So I took the advice of people on here, bought the xpac and played it, levelling my warrior to 73.

I have to say, I'm already bored - it's the same thing as I did in TBC and quite frankly the graphics are terrible, blocky and the armors look awful (it doesn't help that I'm a human and the human models are blocky and ugly)

The quests are the same old stuff, and although there's some cutscene bits, it's the same gather xp by doing pointless stuff that I've seen before. There's no decent PVP, and I miss the tactics and immediate PVP from Warhammer, where I levelled by doing a rotation of scenarios while questing and doing PQ stages.

I'll continue to 80 and farm Naxx 25man, Malygos and Sart with my old guild for a bit. They've already killed every boss in the game and I'll just pick up the epics when I get there, but for now I find the expansion to be a boring, easy and soulless cash-cow.

You fail at trolling, just like WAR failed at being better than WoW.

Originally posted by Bladin

It's a shame that everything in WAR is pointless.

Everything.

Why?

Because theres no point to it.  It's that simple, WAR isn't that interestingly unique and it's engame is FAR worse then DAoC ever was, even with ToA.

Let's see... It has been less than 2 months before War is released, right? Right.

What is WAR's strongest point, or should I say supposed to be the strongest point??? RvR!

What is WoW's strongest point ? Raiding.

Ok here comes the 10 points question.

When WoW was released, was the RAIDING perfect? I mean could you do 25/40 men raiding perfectly. Hell no! I was there, I know. No MC, Onyxia buggy as hell, only small scale Strat etc. and this was for MONTHS (more than 3+ months).

Ok. So far, we got this part I assume.

Do you think Mythic will not buff RvR/rewards/renown and everything that is related to RvR very soon? Why wouldn't they? It's an RvR game. They needed a stable system, class balance and soon they will buff the RvR aspect of the game! Do you think a year from now on people will play scenarions in War all day long?No.

So, get your facts straight. Mythic will make WAR an RvR game, and they are going to do it very soon. How do I presume this? Because it's an RvR game and they have to do this, my logic tells me so. Just like WoW focused on raiding/PvE and made a crappy PvP/instanced-PvP system, Mythic will establish a wonderful RvR system.

Let me remind you, I am not saying that open-PvP will become super fun or PvE/raiding or PQs will be the best aspect of WAR. But the RvR will bring you fun every time you log in, just like DAOC.

If Mythic focuses on PvE/raiding in the future, they will lose. However, there is not a single thing in MMO history that gives more fun than a good RvR battle.

WoW raiding? Yeah, you get a good feeling the first time you kill a boss. Then for a specific gear 25th time you kill the same boss, do you have fun? I didn't think so.

RvR is good, because every huge battle is like your first boss kill moment in WoW.

Originally posted by Dubel

Originally posted by Greyhooff

So I took the advice of people on here, bought the xpac and played it, levelling my warrior to 73.

I have to say, I'm already bored - it's the same thing as I did in TBC and quite frankly the graphics are terrible, blocky and the armors look awful (it doesn't help that I'm a human and the human models are blocky and ugly)

The quests are the same old stuff, and although there's some cutscene bits, it's the same gather xp by doing pointless stuff that I've seen before. There's no decent PVP, and I miss the tactics and immediate PVP from Warhammer, where I levelled by doing a rotation of scenarios while questing and doing PQ stages.

I'll continue to 80 and farm Naxx 25man, Malygos and Sart with my old guild for a bit. They've already killed every boss in the game and I'll just pick up the epics when I get there, but for now I find the expansion to be a boring, easy and soulless cash-cow.

 

You fail at trolling, just like WAR failed at being better than WoW.

How did it fail again at being better than WOW? oh yeah the only thing WOW players can say"it has 11 million subs" unless ofcourse you would like to elaborate more on how WOW is better?

War did not have all conent cleared in 3 days from release ( yes achievments may not be all done but they are just a cheap tome of knowledge anyway with no reason other than bragging rights)

It is not still balancing classes after 4+ years, They created new ideas and did not steal all their ideas from previous games.  Server maintenence problems still after 4+ years with the same problems?

So 11 million subs..... ok got WAR there, millions of people followed Hitler did not make them right or better than anyone else so please tell me how WOW is better than WAR?