Originally posted by donjn

Originally posted by MindTrigger

Originally posted by donjn

Originally posted by MindTrigger

Sounds like someone has been playing too much wow, and just needed some new content.  I doubt the gameplay has changed at all, and I know they did nothing to enhance the social features or crafting, so it's still the same old game.  The expansion might be pretty, but it's still just WoW.

Nope. Been playing AoC, Warhammer, Ryzom for free, etc, etc. I am not a hardcore WoW player at all.

 

You obviously have a level 70 toon though, right?  So did they enhance the game play at all with new concepts?  Did they add more social or non-combat features.  Did the expand their weak excuse for a crafting and resource system?  If not, it's all just visuals.  The shine will wear off after you get used to it.

Name a game out there right now with a better social system, non-combat features, crafting and resource system. DONT mention one category, your example must be better than WoW's in ALL above mentioned categories. Yes WoW has some failings in those areas, but no-one can do all of those things perfectly.

Lotro - not better in ALL, but most, IMO. Better crafting, although it's not great, but as player with a lvl 375 Blacksmith in WoW I can say that WoW's crafting has been a waste of my time. Kinships have a lot more utility than WoW guilds, including Kinship housing. Player housing, you can even display trophies from monsters you've killed. More swift travel options, and more tools for assembling players that are spread apart. A quest interface that shows where party members are on shared quest chains, even allows you to share the beggining of a quest chain that you've already progressed on. Titles and deeds that actually improve your character. Vastly more customizeable player appearance with cosmetic gear. Musical instruments that actually can play player created music. I can smoke a pipe and blow smoke rings!

Sorry OP... MMORPG.com members are generally anti WoW. Don't seek confirmation on how good a game is from a bunch of people who revel behind their anonymity. If you enjoy it that's all that matters. Just don't try and convince others why it's so good because everyone has different tastes and the majority of people have already tried it.

A shame, it was a good topic I thought.  Though the trolling was predictable, I'm not sure it's a good reason to ghost the thread. 

Originally posted by donjn

Originally posted by markoraos

To OP:

I'm glad you find your death knight quest experience epic. I also hope most of the 11 million other epic death knights will find their experience epic as well. I salute Blizzard for being able to provide this epic experience to all those people. It would have been nice to at least give another 1-2 alternative epic experiences (meaning other hero classes) after those 4 years of development, but hey, being a death knight is really epic so who cares, right?

And besides 150 mil $ per month really isn't enough to develop more than one class after 4 years.

Oh, and you can change your hairdo as well which really is a truly epic thing. It's nice seeing all that subscription money I spent over all those years go for a good cause. It makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.

Blizzard has provided more free content than just about any other MMO company. Based on the amount of free content if this was Everquest, they would have been on expansion number 6 by now. Picking out "hairdo" and leaving out all the other additions since the game's inception is a real head scratcher.

Sorry but the fact that you even attempt to say that Blizzard has provided more free content than just about any MMO company is laughable. 

Blizzard is great at polish and releasing relatively bug free software but they are not very giving.  They definitely do not give out a lot of free content. 

Some companies that give out more free content:

Turbine - LOTRO, DDO, AC1 all have had more free content. 

Mythic - DAoC has added a lot more free content over the years as well. 

CCP - I don't like EvE but they have added a lot of free content as well. 

Overall though Turbine is the king at free content patches.  AC1 has had something around 100 free content patches, many that included live events. 

Originally posted by Cabe2323

Originally posted by donjn

Originally posted by markoraos

To OP:

I'm glad you find your death knight quest experience epic. I also hope most of the 11 million other epic death knights will find their experience epic as well. I salute Blizzard for being able to provide this epic experience to all those people. It would have been nice to at least give another 1-2 alternative epic experiences (meaning other hero classes) after those 4 years of development, but hey, being a death knight is really epic so who cares, right?

And besides 150 mil $ per month really isn't enough to develop more than one class after 4 years.

Oh, and you can change your hairdo as well which really is a truly epic thing. It's nice seeing all that subscription money I spent over all those years go for a good cause. It makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.

Blizzard has provided more free content than just about any other MMO company. Based on the amount of free content if this was Everquest, they would have been on expansion number 6 by now. Picking out "hairdo" and leaving out all the other additions since the game's inception is a real head scratcher.

 

Sorry but the fact that you even attempt to say that Blizzard has provided more free content than just about any MMO company is laughable. 

Blizzard is great at polish and releasing relatively bug free software but they are not very giving.  They definitely do not give out a lot of free content. 

Some companies that give out more free content:

Turbine - LOTRO, DDO, AC1 all have had more free content. 

Mythic - DAoC has added a lot more free content over the years as well. 

CCP - I don't like EvE but they have added a lot of free content as well. 

 

Overall though Turbine is the king at free content patches.  AC1 has had something around 100 free content patches, many that included live events. 

I said "just about" meaning there are a few exceptions. You showed me a couple exceptions.

I never said "all". I said "just about" leaving room for a couple companies like Turbine, who I think is an amazing company.

Remove foot from mouth please..

P.S. I am not so sure LOTRO has provided more free content than WoW..And EvE adding a "lot of free content" does not equal "more" than WoW..

I was under the impression that all of EVE's additional content has been released for free? That would be more then WoW I believe. If they have charged for an expansion someone speak up please.

Originally posted by dterry

I was under the impression that all of EVE's additional content has been released for free? That would be more then WoW I believe. If they have charged for an expansion someone speak up please.

This still does not mean "more"...

Well say something racist on the post and have people run with it. Its the only way i know to get a thread deleted. Or you can name it Unofficial We hate Blizzard thread and run with that. I made one with Vanguard and it was deleted twice. Damn communists only are good for banning truth sayers not anything else. i just got a warning the other day for somthing retarded. Whatever mmorpg i have a opinion im not trolling if i wanted to troll it would be obvious because i would have 10 threads starting crap. but when i say the same thing over and over again its not trolling its my god damn opinion. Sorry if opinions are not allowed i didnt get that memo.

Originally posted by donjn

Originally posted by dterry

I was under the impression that all of EVE's additional content has been released for free? That would be more then WoW I believe. If they have charged for an expansion someone speak up please.

This still does not mean "more"...

What more can they do? They have released all of their additional content for free (unless I am remembering it wrong and I have not played since launch). But WoW is charging for content and EVE never has. WoW will win some arguments against EVE but certainly not that one.

Some people disagree with you and state their opinion and you start crying for the mods to close the thread? Why? I read through and I didn't see any Troll posts at all. Just people responding to your post with their opinions. No insults, just intelligent discussion.

If you can't deal with people who disagree with you without having a conniption fit about it, I would have to suggest that you abstain from posting on a public forum.

Personally I despise WoW. I beta tested the game, and played it for a week before I quit. In my humble opinion it is the Fisher Price of MMO's. Spoonfed Pablum for the console gaming crowd; with bright colors and cartoonesque characters aimed at making a virtual merry-go-round for the same pre-teens who play Runescape.

Any adult that plays it should feel ashamed that their idea of a fantasy world fit for adventuring in is so reminiscent of Pee-Wee's Playhouse.

Originally posted by xaldraxius

Some people disagree with you and state their opinion and you start crying for the mods to close the thread? Why? I read through and I didn't see any Troll posts at all. Just people responding to your post with their opinions. No insults, just intelligent discussion.

Any adult that plays it should feel ashamed that their idea of a fantasy world fit for adventuring in is so reminiscent of Pee-Wee's Playhouse.

I can name several responses that weren't exactly of the "intelligent discussion" variety. But because you agree with them, that makes them intelligent or easily overlooked by yourself..

Originally posted by xaldraxius

Some people disagree with you and state their opinion and you start crying for the mods to close the thread? Why? I read through and I didn't see any Troll posts at all. Just people responding to your post with their opinions. No insults, just intelligent discussion.

If you can't deal with people who disagree with you without having a conniption fit about it, I would have to suggest that you abstain from posting on a public forum.

Personally I despise WoW. I beta tested the game, and played it for a week before I quit. In my humble opinion it is the Fisher Price of MMO's. Spoonfed Pablum for the console gaming crowd; with bright colors and cartoonesque characters aimed at making a virtual merry-go-round for the same pre-teens who play Runescape.

Any adult that plays it should feel ashamed that their idea of a fantasy world fit for adventuring in is so reminiscent of Pee-Wee's Playhouse.

A better question Xaldraxuis, is why are you here? Looking back through your past posts you hate WoW. Here is a classic response you made to the "11 Million Subscriptions" post:

LOL

Ok, this is going to sound like trolling but, this only goes to prove my theory that 9 out of 10 people are morons.

(*I'm happy to be in the minority.*)

So you are an MMO elitist, and you post on the forums of the game you despise?

That is truly amazing..

I guess the Greater Internet Dickwad Theory is in full effect?
www.penny-arcade.com/docs/internetdickwad.jpg

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Originally posted by donjn

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Originally posted by xaldraxius

Some people disagree with you and state their opinion and you start crying for the mods to close the thread? Why? I read through and I didn't see any Troll posts at all. Just people responding to your post with their opinions. No insults, just intelligent discussion.
Any adult that plays it should feel ashamed that their idea of a fantasy world fit for adventuring in is so reminiscent of Pee-Wee's Playhouse.

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I can name several responses that weren't exactly of the "intelligent discussion" variety. But because you agree with them, that makes them intelligent or easily overlooked by yourself..

 
 

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It's a matter of perspective. I read most of the posts in this, or any other, forum and I don't see much intelligence in them either, but so long as it doesn't involve someone typing in all caps 'WOW SUCKS DONKEY NUTZ!!!' or such I qualify it as 'intelligent discussion'. Flaming would be a personal insult, and trolling an irrational attack on the game itself. Now my post...yeah that was trolling. But as you can see it was the worst that had been said, everything leading up to it was people 'intelligently' remarking about certain specific things that they don't like about the game, or things that they feel other games do better.

Just saying that you have to take a lot with a grain of salt around here. I'm glad you changed your thread title and got rid of some of the complaining you did in your opening post, and you see I called it complaining and not whining or QQing because I'm not trying to attack you personally.

You should go ahead and put back in what you had before, just because some of us don't agree, that doesn't mean that there aren't far more people who do agree with you. You just have to give them a chance, and don't take the bad comments so seriously.

I can be a jerk, but I'm not trying to be. I wouldn't have even posted were it not for the thread title. Don't back down so easily and don't look to the mods for help unless someone is really being an @ss. Defend yourself and your feelings about the game and you will find that before long other people will join in and support you and you will find people who you can discuss things with in a possitive way.

The forums are a lot like a game unto themselves. It is in the conflict that bonds are made and friendships are forged and happiness and rainbows and I think I am going to go puke now....

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Originally posted by donjn

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Originally posted by xaldraxius

Some people disagree with you and state their opinion and you start crying for the mods to close the thread? Why? I read through and I didn't see any Troll posts at all. Just people responding to your post with their opinions. No insults, just intelligent discussion.
If you can't deal with people who disagree with you without having a conniption fit about it, I would have to suggest that you abstain from posting on a public forum.
Personally I despise WoW. I beta tested the game, and played it for a week before I quit. In my humble opinion it is the Fisher Price of MMO's. Spoonfed Pablum for the console gaming crowd; with bright colors and cartoonesque characters aimed at making a virtual merry-go-round for the same pre-teens who play Runescape.
Any adult that plays it should feel ashamed that their idea of a fantasy world fit for adventuring in is so reminiscent of Pee-Wee's Playhouse.

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A better question Xaldraxuis, is why are you here? Looking back through your past posts you hate WoW. Here is a classic response you made to the "11 Million Subscriptions" post:
LOL
Ok, this is going to sound like trolling but, this only goes to prove my theory that 9 out of 10 people are morons.
(*I'm happy to be in the minority.*)
So you are an MMO elitist, and you post on the forums of the game you despise?
That is truly amazing..
I guess the Greater Internet Dickwad Theory is in full effect?
www.penny-arcade.com/docs/internetdickwad.jpg
 

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;D

I play an integral part in the forum game.

I'm a villain.

Originally posted by xaldraxius

 

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Originally posted by donjn

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Originally posted by xaldraxius

 

Some people disagree with you and state their opinion and you start crying for the mods to close the thread? Why? I read through and I didn't see any Troll posts at all. Just people responding to your post with their opinions. No insults, just intelligent discussion.
If you can't deal with people who disagree with you without having a conniption fit about it, I would have to suggest that you abstain from posting on a public forum.
Personally I despise WoW. I beta tested the game, and played it for a week before I quit. In my humble opinion it is the Fisher Price of MMO's. Spoonfed Pablum for the console gaming crowd; with bright colors and cartoonesque characters aimed at making a virtual merry-go-round for the same pre-teens who play Runescape.
Any adult that plays it should feel ashamed that their idea of a fantasy world fit for adventuring in is so reminiscent of Pee-Wee's Playhouse.

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A better question Xaldraxuis, is why are you here? Looking back through your past posts you hate WoW. Here is a classic response you made to the "11 Million Subscriptions" post:
LOL
Ok, this is going to sound like trolling but, this only goes to prove my theory that 9 out of 10 people are morons.
(*I'm happy to be in the minority.*)
So you are an MMO elitist, and you post on the forums of the game you despise?
That is truly amazing..
I guess the Greater Internet Dickwad Theory is in full effect?
www.penny-arcade.com/docs/internetdickwad.jpg
 

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;D

I play an integral part in the forum game.

I'm a villain.

Last I checked World of Warcraft was not like Pee-Wee's Playhouse..

A week is not enough time. It's shame you missed some great exploring, some great quests and adventures. An amazing musical score and a huge, open world of possibilities. I feel bad for you because you now post in the forum of the game you hate. I have seen your other posts where you say everyone who plays WoW is a moron..

You obviously have a deep obsession with convincing the world that WoW is bad. You may want to give up that fight. Perhaps the only way to conquer this, is to play it for more than a week? That is just not enough time to formulate an opinion, regardless of what you have read about the game..

Good to see a real "roleplay" poster however....lol I liked the villain thing :)

BTW I like your taste in games. I noticed that you have tinkered with AoC lately and have left Warhammer behind. I ended up liking AoC more than War for some reason. I may come back if the lag spikes go away.

And I love Fable 2 and the original as well. Now that is a dynamic world. I cant disagree with you on that one.

 It is in the conflict that bonds are made and friendships are forged and happiness and rainbows and I think I am going to go puke now....

LOL!

That is signature material...

Originally posted by markoraos

To OP:

I'm glad you find your death knight quest experience epic. I also hope most of the 11 million other epic death knights will find their experience epic as well. I salute Blizzard for being able to provide this epic experience to all those people. It would have been nice to at least give another 1-2 alternative epic experiences (meaning other hero classes) after those 4 years of development, but hey, being a death knight is really epic so who cares, right?

And besides 150 mil $ per month really isn't enough to develop more than one class after 4 years.

Oh, and you can change your hairdo as well which really is a truly epic thing. It's nice seeing all that subscription money I spent over all those years go for a good cause. It makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.

Bodypass is that you? 

Originally posted by donjn

Originally posted by xaldraxius

 

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Originally posted by donjn

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Originally posted by xaldraxius

 

Some people disagree with you and state their opinion and you start crying for the mods to close the thread? Why? I read through and I didn't see any Troll posts at all. Just people responding to your post with their opinions. No insults, just intelligent discussion.
If you can't deal with people who disagree with you without having a conniption fit about it, I would have to suggest that you abstain from posting on a public forum.
Personally I despise WoW. I beta tested the game, and played it for a week before I quit. In my humble opinion it is the Fisher Price of MMO's. Spoonfed Pablum for the console gaming crowd; with bright colors and cartoonesque characters aimed at making a virtual merry-go-round for the same pre-teens who play Runescape.
Any adult that plays it should feel ashamed that their idea of a fantasy world fit for adventuring in is so reminiscent of Pee-Wee's Playhouse.

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A better question Xaldraxuis, is why are you here? Looking back through your past posts you hate WoW. Here is a classic response you made to the "11 Million Subscriptions" post:
LOL
Ok, this is going to sound like trolling but, this only goes to prove my theory that 9 out of 10 people are morons.
(*I'm happy to be in the minority.*)
So you are an MMO elitist, and you post on the forums of the game you despise?
That is truly amazing..
I guess the Greater Internet Dickwad Theory is in full effect?
www.penny-arcade.com/docs/internetdickwad.jpg
 

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;D

I play an integral part in the forum game.

I'm a villain.

Good to see a real "roleplay" poster however....lol I liked the villain thing :) 

Ooooh Oooooh, can I be the fanboi?!!!  Please?  Pretty please?!!!!  I can do it, I KNOW I can. :)
 

Originally posted by Pappy13

Originally posted by donjn

Originally posted by xaldraxius

 

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Originally posted by donjn

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Originally posted by xaldraxius

 

Some people disagree with you and state their opinion and you start crying for the mods to close the thread? Why? I read through and I didn't see any Troll posts at all. Just people responding to your post with their opinions. No insults, just intelligent discussion.
If you can't deal with people who disagree with you without having a conniption fit about it, I would have to suggest that you abstain from posting on a public forum.
Personally I despise WoW. I beta tested the game, and played it for a week before I quit. In my humble opinion it is the Fisher Price of MMO's. Spoonfed Pablum for the console gaming crowd; with bright colors and cartoonesque characters aimed at making a virtual merry-go-round for the same pre-teens who play Runescape.
Any adult that plays it should feel ashamed that their idea of a fantasy world fit for adventuring in is so reminiscent of Pee-Wee's Playhouse.

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A better question Xaldraxuis, is why are you here? Looking back through your past posts you hate WoW. Here is a classic response you made to the "11 Million Subscriptions" post:
LOL
Ok, this is going to sound like trolling but, this only goes to prove my theory that 9 out of 10 people are morons.
(*I'm happy to be in the minority.*)
So you are an MMO elitist, and you post on the forums of the game you despise?
That is truly amazing..
I guess the Greater Internet Dickwad Theory is in full effect?
www.penny-arcade.com/docs/internetdickwad.jpg
 

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;D

I play an integral part in the forum game.

I'm a villain.

Good to see a real "roleplay" poster however....lol I liked the villain thing :) 

Ooooh Oooooh, can I be the fanboi?!!!  Please?  Pretty please?!!!!  I can do it, I KNOW I can. :)

Okay I nominate you!

Gratz!

Originally posted by donjn

Originally posted by Pappy13

Originally posted by donjn

Originally posted by xaldraxius

 

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Originally posted by donjn

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Originally posted by xaldraxius

 

Some people disagree with you and state their opinion and you start crying for the mods to close the thread? Why? I read through and I didn't see any Troll posts at all. Just people responding to your post with their opinions. No insults, just intelligent discussion.
If you can't deal with people who disagree with you without having a conniption fit about it, I would have to suggest that you abstain from posting on a public forum.
Personally I despise WoW. I beta tested the game, and played it for a week before I quit. In my humble opinion it is the Fisher Price of MMO's. Spoonfed Pablum for the console gaming crowd; with bright colors and cartoonesque characters aimed at making a virtual merry-go-round for the same pre-teens who play Runescape.
Any adult that plays it should feel ashamed that their idea of a fantasy world fit for adventuring in is so reminiscent of Pee-Wee's Playhouse.

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A better question Xaldraxuis, is why are you here? Looking back through your past posts you hate WoW. Here is a classic response you made to the "11 Million Subscriptions" post:
LOL
Ok, this is going to sound like trolling but, this only goes to prove my theory that 9 out of 10 people are morons.
(*I'm happy to be in the minority.*)
So you are an MMO elitist, and you post on the forums of the game you despise?
That is truly amazing..
I guess the Greater Internet Dickwad Theory is in full effect?
www.penny-arcade.com/docs/internetdickwad.jpg
 

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;D

I play an integral part in the forum game.

I'm a villain.

Good to see a real "roleplay" poster however....lol I liked the villain thing :) 

Ooooh Oooooh, can I be the fanboi?!!!  Please?  Pretty please?!!!!  I can do it, I KNOW I can. :)

Okay I nominate you!

Gratz!

I Second that!