PvE was almost exclusively directed at soloing... I play MMO's to play with other players.. especially RL friends.... we ground public quests for a while then quit.   I know.. I know.. its a PvP game.

 edit:

Yes PQ's are group content, but they aren't enough... and after a while they all seem the same from my experience. (though im sure there are some exceptions)

PvP was ruined by scenarios... should have been pure world PvP.

It is not PVP as in OPen RVR everyone only plays the scenarios, it is a poor attempt trying to be Guild Wars!  Yes, I did quit the game.   I tried AOC when it came out and was burned and then tried War when it came out and I am totally out of buying a new game until 6 months or 1 year later.

Originally posted by Swiftblade13

PvE was almost exclusively directed at soloing... I play MMO's to play with other players.. especially RL friends.... we ground public quests for a while then quit.   I know.. I know.. its a PvP game.

 

 

Trying doing PQs and dungeons solo? No?

Then it's not directed at soloing...
 

Coming from WoW I found all WAR's PvE group content a refreshing change from soloing 95% of the time. People on low pop servers report having trouble finding other players to do PQs with, however. Server transfers are available though, unless you're in Europe, in which case you'll have to wait until sometime next month, apparently. Personally I'd like to do the dungeon content more as well, but people seem to generally be more interested in spamming scenarios than exploring dungenos. Mount Gunbad is absolutely awesome, but I've only done one wing of it so far due to lack of groups going there, and I won't be tier 3 forever.

Originally posted by Ixnatifual

Coming from WoW I found all WAR's PvE group content a refreshing change from soloing 95% of the time. People on low pop servers report having trouble finding other players to do PQs with, however. Server transfers are available though, unless you're in Europe, in which case you'll have to wait until sometime next month, apparently. Personally I'd like to do the dungeon content more as well, but people seem to generally be more interested in spamming scenarios than exploring dungenos. Mount Gunbad is absolutely awesome, but I've only done one wing of it so far due to lack of groups going there, and I won't be tier 3 forever.

I just entered Valgarde on the Howling Fjord lands by boat

Man you don't know what you see. What a difference, sorry, but when you compare this it puts War back into 2004.

Speechless beauty. Have fun in War though.

Originally posted by Swiftblade13

PvE was almost exclusively directed at soloing... I play MMO's to play with other players.. especially RL friends.... we ground public quests for a while then quit.   I know.. I know.. its a PvP game.

 

 

I have no idea what you're talking about here.

PQs are aimed squarely at group PvE crowd and they comprise the majority of PvE gameplay in this game.

I really do not understand your point. You might say that solo PvE is underwhelming since it is pretty much your standard fare, but PQs are downright revolutionary.

Again I really have no idea what you're talking about. Solo questing is actually THE slowest and THE least rewarding way to play. How can you then possibly say that PvE is directed exclusively at solo questing?

Maybe you played the game wrong? This is a new game - it has new rules and principles. If you want to group PvE then go and do PQs - you can level through the game just by doing PQs with your group and never do the same one again. And if you find PQs "grindy" and all the same then it is simply not true - maybe those in T1 are a bit more simple to ease out players into the game but later on I can tell you they get very varied indeed.

Originally posted by strategy

Originally posted by Ixnatifual

Coming from WoW I found all WAR's PvE group content a refreshing change from soloing 95% of the time. People on low pop servers report having trouble finding other players to do PQs with, however. Server transfers are available though, unless you're in Europe, in which case you'll have to wait until sometime next month, apparently. Personally I'd like to do the dungeon content more as well, but people seem to generally be more interested in spamming scenarios than exploring dungenos. Mount Gunbad is absolutely awesome, but I've only done one wing of it so far due to lack of groups going there, and I won't be tier 3 forever.

 

I just entered Valgarde on the Howling Fjord lands by boat

Man you don't know what you see. What a difference, sorry, but when you compare this it puts War back into 2004.

Speechless beauty. Have fun in War though.

Have fun in WoTLK. I hope you'll stop trolling these boards now you've got your fix.

Originally posted by markoraos

Originally posted by Swiftblade13

PvE was almost exclusively directed at soloing... I play MMO's to play with other players.. especially RL friends.... we ground public quests for a while then quit.   I know.. I know.. its a PvP game.

 

 

 

I have no idea what you're talking about here.

PQs are aimed squarely at group PvE crowd and they comprise the majority of PvE gameplay in this game.

I really do not understand your point. You might say that solo PvE is underwhelming since it is pretty much your standard fare, but PQs are downright revolutionary.

Again I really have no idea what you're talking about. Solo questing is actually THE slowest and THE least rewarding way to play. How can you then possibly say that PvE is directed exclusively at solo questing?

Maybe you played the game wrong? This is a new game - it has new rules and principles. If you want to group PvE then go and do PQs - you can level through the game just by doing PQs with your group and never do the same one again. And if you find PQs "grindy" and all the same then it is simply not true - maybe those in T1 are a bit more simple to ease out players into the game but later on I can tell you they get very varied indeed.

How much later in the game does someone have to grind through to get to the more interesting PQ's?  So far they have been a pretty lackluster excuse for group content.  A great concept, but the implementation hasn't really hit the mark.

Also, what is with this "playing the game wrong" BS.  It isn't like public quests take a masters degree to figure out.  There are classes that can plow through levels soloing PQ's, yes solo.  It is strange that grouping for PQs can be slower, more grindy and filled with downtime waiting on mobs to respawn so you can advance the kill count.

I agree with swiftblade that the PvE is almost exclusively solo oriented, which is good for some people bad for others.  Even the public quests feel like solo content since people run around fighting for contribution for 95% of the timer.  It isn't about team work until the tank and spank LTs and bosses spawn and even then some classes can solo the LTs without aid.

Originally posted by Daffid011

Originally posted by markoraos

Originally posted by Swiftblade13

PvE was almost exclusively directed at soloing... I play MMO's to play with other players.. especially RL friends.... we ground public quests for a while then quit.   I know.. I know.. its a PvP game.

 

 

 

I have no idea what you're talking about here.

PQs are aimed squarely at group PvE crowd and they comprise the majority of PvE gameplay in this game.

I really do not understand your point. You might say that solo PvE is underwhelming since it is pretty much your standard fare, but PQs are downright revolutionary.

Again I really have no idea what you're talking about. Solo questing is actually THE slowest and THE least rewarding way to play. How can you then possibly say that PvE is directed exclusively at solo questing?

Maybe you played the game wrong? This is a new game - it has new rules and principles. If you want to group PvE then go and do PQs - you can level through the game just by doing PQs with your group and never do the same one again. And if you find PQs "grindy" and all the same then it is simply not true - maybe those in T1 are a bit more simple to ease out players into the game but later on I can tell you they get very varied indeed.

 

How much later in the game does someone have to grind through to get to the more interesting PQ's?  So far they have been a pretty lackluster excuse for group content.  A great concept, but the implementation hasn't really hit the mark.

Also, what is with this "playing the game wrong" BS.  It isn't like public quests take a masters degree to figure out.  There are classes that can plow through levels soloing PQ's, yes solo.  It is strange that grouping for PQs can be slower, more grindy and filled with downtime waiting on mobs to respawn so you can advance the kill count.

 

I agree with swiftblade that the PvE is almost exclusively solo oriented, which is good for some people bad for others.  Even the public quests feel like solo content since people run around fighting for contribution for 95% of the timer.  It isn't about team work until the tank and spank LTs and bosses spawn and even then some classes can solo the LTs without aid.

Meh...

This warrants no comment... I just played 2 PQs in dwarf chapters 15 and 16. In one we were supposed to guard a caravan of dwarf NPCs while they were attacked by waves of orks.. In the other one at stage 2 we had to fight 3 separate groups of mounted mobs with a few champions mixed with them... time-limited ofc. At stage 3 we got hit by a dragon hero with his hero rider.. who constantly summoned adds to help them out - needless to say our full group wiped 3 times before we managed to complete the PQ.

If that's not variety and challenge in PvE then I have no idea what is. Could you please point me to a game that provides this and more?

I really wish people would quit making "I quit" or "why I quit" posts.  They are a waste of your time.  We don't care why you quit.  We aren't going to miraculously "see the light" and follow suit.  If you don't like WAR.  Fine.  Real PvP isn't for everyone.

Please, just leave quietly.

Originally posted by Roguewiz

I really wish people would quit making "I quit" or "why I quit" posts.  They are a waste of your time.  We don't care why you quit.  We aren't going to miraculously "see the light" and follow suit.  If you don't like WAR.  Fine.  Real PvP isn't for everyone.

Please, just leave quietly.

Dont click the thread?

People who maybe are on the fence about buying the game may want to see why people are not enjoying it?  If you stopped looking in the mirror for a second then maybe you would realize that.

And im not even going to touch the whole "real pvp isnt for everyone comment" lol...assuming you are talking about WAR...lol.

Btw I played WAR and recently quit for my own reasons, many of which are comming up in these various quitting posts.

Originally posted by Roguewiz

I really wish people would quit making "I quit" or "why I quit" posts.  They are a waste of your time.  We don't care why you quit.  We aren't going to miraculously "see the light" and follow suit.  If you don't like WAR.  Fine.  Real PvP isn't for everyone.

Please, just leave quietly.

WAR isn't "real" PVP.

Real PVP is Eve, where you lose a ship and think "hmm i just lost 1 month of work".

In WAR? 15 minutes, or you pay to get healed.

That's PVP for kids.

Originally posted by m3ta

Originally posted by Roguewiz

I really wish people would quit making "I quit" or "why I quit" posts.  They are a waste of your time.  We don't care why you quit.  We aren't going to miraculously "see the light" and follow suit.  If you don't like WAR.  Fine.  Real PvP isn't for everyone.

Please, just leave quietly.

 

WAR isn't "real" PVP.

Real PVP is Eve, where you lose a ship and think "hmm i just lost 1 month of work".

In WAR? 15 minutes, or you pay to get healed.

That's PVP for kids.

 

I really can't comment much on Eve.  I played it briefly, but it wasn't my cup of tea.  WAR is "real" PvP when compared to WoW PvP.
 

I don't define real PvP by what penalty your are assessed for dying/losing.  While WAR doesn't have a harsh penalty, the PvP is more meaningful than some other games.  I use WoW as an example, since people frequenlty make comparisons between the two.  WoW PvP is based upon 2v2/3v3/5v5 Arenas.  In these Arenas, you compete for gear.  Sure, the e-peen "I'm better than you" aspect is quite prevailent; but outside of that, the PvP is relatively watered down.  At least with WoW, you can actually wage a WAR; as the name says; Warhammer.  The "war" in Warcraft doesn't really exist.

Now, we were to use your example as what "real" PvP is; Shadowbane had it.  Imagine spending months and boat loads of cash to build a great city; just to have it annihalated in a few hours. (MGA > BoS)

Try and get your Bloodlord gear solo, see whether you still think it is a solo pve game.

Originally posted by Swiftblade13

PvE was almost exclusively directed at soloing... I play MMO's to play with other players.. especially RL friends.... we ground public quests for a while then quit.   I know.. I know.. its a PvP game.

 

 edit:

Yes PQ's are group content, but they aren't enough... and after a while they all seem the same from my experience. (though im sure there are some exceptions)

PvP was ruined by scenarios... should have been pure world PvP.

 Translation: Say something that makes no sense. Edit to cover ass. Repeat same thing everyone else is saying.

Originally posted by m3ta

Originally posted by Roguewiz

I really wish people would quit making "I quit" or "why I quit" posts.  They are a waste of your time.  We don't care why you quit.  We aren't going to miraculously "see the light" and follow suit.  If you don't like WAR.  Fine.  Real PvP isn't for everyone.

Please, just leave quietly.

 

WAR isn't "real" PVP.

Real PVP is Eve, where you lose a ship and think "hmm i just lost 1 month of work".

In WAR? 15 minutes, or you pay to get healed.

That's PVP for kids.

 

 I aren't a kid but i think WAR is "real" pvp. i mean using your Eve example i could say
 

 Stupid PVP is Eve, where you lose a ship and think "hmm i just lost 1 month of work".

 In War 15 minutes, or you pay to get healed.

That's pvp for smart people who hate wasting their time.

 Does having large penalties make Eve the better game or a more pvp game?. I don't think so it is open to interpretation.  I don't hate Eve and i haven't ever played it but just defying the fact that one is more a pvp game than the other,  they are just differant.

Originally posted by Thebigbopper

Originally posted by m3ta

Originally posted by Roguewiz

I really wish people would quit making "I quit" or "why I quit" posts.  They are a waste of your time.  We don't care why you quit.  We aren't going to miraculously "see the light" and follow suit.  If you don't like WAR.  Fine.  Real PvP isn't for everyone.

Please, just leave quietly.

 

WAR isn't "real" PVP.

Real PVP is Eve, where you lose a ship and think "hmm i just lost 1 month of work".

In WAR? 15 minutes, or you pay to get healed.

That's PVP for kids.

 

 I aren't a kid but i think WAR is "real" pvp. i mean using your Eve example i could say
 

 Stupid PVP is Eve, where you lose a ship and think "hmm i just lost 1 month of work".

 In War 15 minutes, or you pay to get healed.

That's pvp for smart people who hate wasting their time.

 Does having large penalties make Eve the better game or a more pvp game?. I don't think so it is open to interpretation.  I don't hate Eve and i haven't ever played it but just defying the fact that one is more a pvp game than the other,  they are just differant.

Sorry my friend,EvE is a better game than WAR or even WoW.Everything you do has a consequence in EvE.The world is rule by Corporations,and the game have lots of sub plots going on all the time.

PvP in War is becoming a joke and the oversimplification of the game kill any single ounce of community spirit.WAR is a single player game with multi option not an MMO.

Originally posted by Swiftblade13

PvE was almost exclusively directed at soloing... I play MMO's to play with other players.. especially RL friends.... we ground public quests for a while then quit.   I know.. I know.. its a PvP game.

 

 edit:

Yes PQ's are group content, but they aren't enough... and after a while they all seem the same from my experience. (though im sure there are some exceptions)

PvP was ruined by scenarios... should have been pure world PvP.

Ummm...  Did you completely miss or just ignore the dungeon areas?

Originally posted by Ngeldu5t

Originally posted by Thebigbopper

Originally posted by m3ta

Originally posted by Roguewiz

I really wish people would quit making "I quit" or "why I quit" posts.  They are a waste of your time.  We don't care why you quit.  We aren't going to miraculously "see the light" and follow suit.  If you don't like WAR.  Fine.  Real PvP isn't for everyone.

Please, just leave quietly.

 

WAR isn't "real" PVP.

Real PVP is Eve, where you lose a ship and think "hmm i just lost 1 month of work".

In WAR? 15 minutes, or you pay to get healed.

That's PVP for kids.

 

 I aren't a kid but i think WAR is "real" pvp. i mean using your Eve example i could say
 

 Stupid PVP is Eve, where you lose a ship and think "hmm i just lost 1 month of work".

 In War 15 minutes, or you pay to get healed.

That's pvp for smart people who hate wasting their time.

 Does having large penalties make Eve the better game or a more pvp game?. I don't think so it is open to interpretation.  I don't hate Eve and i haven't ever played it but just defying the fact that one is more a pvp game than the other,  they are just differant.

Sorry my friend,EvE is a better game than WAR or even WoW.Everything you do has a consequence in EvE.The world is rule by Corporations,and the game have lots of sub plots going on all the time.

PvP in War is becoming a joke and the oversimplification of the game kill any single ounce of community spirit.WAR is a single player game with multi option not an MMO.

And EvE is a repetitive game doing stuff over and over and over (Same missions, same roids), unless you're gonna go PvP, but that's like......after months of skilltraining?

Come on, man.