The folks at Darkfall have announced that they are sending out another round of beta invites.

We sent out the second batch of beta invites last night and we’re going to continue inviting people as needed by our testing process. There’s no ETA to the invites, we’re moving along based solely on our needs. We might invite more people in as early as tonight, and as frequently as every day. The testers are under strict NDA and it would be very unfortunate if we had to ban people and/or to modify our testing - so we would like to ask everyone to respect our process and procedures, even those of you not yet in the beta.

If you’re not in the beta yet, please don’t take this personally, it’s likely you don’t fit our immediate testing needs. There are a lot of criteria, but it can be as simple as hardware, location, time zone etc. We appreciate your understanding as we're trying to get Darkfall ready, we take this process very seriously.

Read more here.

Still waiting to hear from one person in beta that the game exists and you can actually play it.   Wouldn't it be interesting if this was all a charade?

hehe true... but imagine this: If the game was actually for real, then it has been one of the smartest moves in gaming history... They have spent nearly nothing on marketing, and still the game is the most hyped game ever..

Yea, the most hyped game ever that nobdy has ever heard of.

I don't believe there really is a beta going on. I don't believe this game is anything but a hoax.

Originally posted by Draccan

 

I don't believe there really is a beta going on. I don't believe this game is anything but a hoax.

 

Agreed. If a dxdiag with a Quad Core, 8GB Ram, 5TB HD is not enough, then they are not inviting anyone. :P

Originally posted by Draccan

 

I don't believe there really is a beta going on. I don't believe this game is anything but a hoax.

 

Yea i firmly believe that all those people at that technology conference that were watching a live version of DF being played were all robots and all the developers were CGI or aliens.

Also, all the TV channels and Magazines that did reports on DF in the last month were government scams to get your first born child.

<3

Good news though as we are discussing it on the DF boards as well as the official ones.  I think everyone just gets worked up too quickly when they dont get instant results.  It was bad seeing everyone get all pissy because there was no update on the 10th.  The developers are people too guys and are obviously working hard.

Good luck getting into beta everyone and nice to see MMORPG.com showing some love to the updates...it gets pretty brutal on this site when DF comes up (as you can see)

On a note, they said they'll be testing hardware and such. Meaning, even if you're computer is the most godliest thing ever, they'll probably choose someone who can barily run a browser based game so they can see how well performance is. Just throwing it out there.

Originally posted by m3ta

Agreed. If a dxdiag with a Quad Core, 8GB Ram, 5TB HD is not enough, then they are not inviting anyone. :P

Thats pretty widespread configuration nowadays. My Athlon 2.5 hhz is much more valuable in the matter of testing on every possible system config

And nope, I`m still not in ...

Going out on a limb putting this in news. Have the DF fanboys been complaining about lack of coverage for their psuedo-announcements?

Originally posted by Mahlo

Going out on a limb putting this in news. Have the DF fanboys been complaining about lack of coverage for their psuedo-announcements?

wow lol...just when i thought i had heard it all

So do you honestly believe that it's possible for an amateur team to release the most advanced MMORPG ever without running any extensive beta tests? I'm really crossing my fingers for that to happen, but it is kind of unlikely.

Even the simplest EQ clones require months after months of testing to squash all bugs etc., and even then, after release, the game requires tons of fixes, not to mention balancing changes. Aventurine, however, isn't just making some cookie cutter MMO with nothing but grind in it, they're making a game with seamless world, housing, player run towns, open PVP, collision detection, mounts, sophisticated combat system, naval battles etc., and yet they don't need to do any beta testing whatsoever, even though they're pretty much just a team working out of a garage. They're confident that the game they're supposedly making is going to play well on every hardware configuration conceivable by man and that the servers are going to be just as stable as they were when they did some artificial tests.

The game's due in decemeber, since they said it's going to be available this year, but that means the master CD should already be on its way. Digital distribution then? OK, I can go with that. There's a beta, but everyone's so secretive about it and follows the NDA so strictly that there are no leaks and not ONE person on the internet knows anybody who's got access to it to confirm that the game we're so eagerly waiting for is indeed being played and tested by someone who's not a member of the dev team. But yeah, whatever, we shouldn't be too envious of those who were lucky enough to receive one of the invites, because they're not really playing the game anyway, as it's too early to test the character development -- they're just hardware testing. Not more than one month till release and they've not even tested the character development yet...

I've followed the game's development since the very first news about it hit the web and I really want to stay positive about the whole thing, but I've never been much for blind fanboism and the truth is they have never released ANY substantial proof that the game is in a state that allows for gameplay beta testing. Someone goes to Greece to visit them, we get some pics from their offices, some funny coffee cups, monitors and keyboards, and that's pretty much it. Someone's in beta, though we don't know who that is, we don't know what they're doing, what they're really testing, or if there's anything to test at all. The movie they've released a while ago doesn't really prove anything either. Sure it shows some stuff, but somehow I'm still not entirely convinced that the game's ready for release, that the servers are going to be capable of hosting 5000+ clients simultaneously, that all the skills, weapons, races are going to be well balanced, that the game client is going to be stable enough not to give any trouble to any of the thouands of people trying the game out if it does release.

There's not one MMORPG that I want to play more than DFO, and believe me when I say I'm going to be the happiest MMO gamer if I'm wrong about all this, but my gut tells me that it's either a hoax (remember Mourning?) or we're going to have another SB (or worse) on our hands in a few months.

Originally posted by m3ta

Originally posted by Draccan

 

I don't believe there really is a beta going on. I don't believe this game is anything but a hoax.

 

 

Agreed. If a dxdiag with a Quad Core, 8GB Ram, 5TB HD is not enough, then they are not inviting anyone. :P

They apparently don't want ostentatious asses testing their game.

This game will be the quickest failure of any MMO ever. Just looking at the Videos shows how crappy the game will be. Looks like a lame outdated  Hack and Slash.

and you're favorite game is.....Lineage 2?   lol   

Originally posted by corpusc

and you're favorite game is.....Lineage 2?   lol   

Yes, it is. Almost 5 Years old and still going strong.

Originally posted by m3ta

Originally posted by Draccan

 

I don't believe there really is a beta going on. I don't believe this game is anything but a hoax.

 

 

Agreed. If a dxdiag with a Quad Core, 8GB Ram, 5TB HD is not enough, then they are not inviting anyone. :P

The game must be vaporware if you werent invited?

What are you? 12?

Hack and slash sounds like a wet dream to me. Can't wait to hack and slash.

Woohoo, I'm in beta!

;(I'm sorry, I lied. ;)

I have asked around, and nobody knows of anyone that was accepted into beta. I'm starting to think this thing is some kind of scam to sell preorders. Only one month of beta to test a game this complex? You have got to be kidding me.

Originally posted by MrBoots

I have asked around, and nobody knows of anyone that was accepted into beta. I'm starting to think this thing is some kind of scam to sell preorders. Only one month of beta to test a game this complex? You have got to be kidding me.

they have bene in beta since last year with professional testers and with the help of AI /bots if oyu cant understand this then why are you even bothering

PS NO PREORDERS

Originally posted by khaelf

So do you honestly believe that it's possible for an amateur team to release the most advanced MMORPG ever without running any extensive beta tests? I'm really crossing my fingers for that to happen, but it is kind of unlikely.

Yes! Have you ever worked on a single project for around 8 years? As for amateur They all are rather skilled in their fields.

Even the simplest EQ clones require months after months of testing to squash all bugs etc., and even then, after release, the game requires tons of fixes, not to mention balancing changes. Aventurine, however, isn't just making some cookie cutter MMO with nothing but grind in it, they're making a game with seamless world, housing, player run towns, open PVP, collision detection, mounts, sophisticated combat system, naval battles etc., and yet they don't need to do any beta testing whatsoever, even though they're pretty much just a team working out of a garage. They're confident that the game they're supposedly making is going to play well on every hardware configuration conceivable by man and that the servers are going to be just as stable as they were when they did some artificial tests.

They have been testing the entire time its been in  development. If you knew anything about programming and game development. You would know its part of the cycle. They also have had more then a year beta testing with paid beta testers.

Not one person on the planet can expect a mac to be able to play DF. Dev said so. Thus you're wrong again.... sorry? As for the server issue they have developed a new AND unqie server achatecture that uses server clusters in a much more MMO effeicnt manor. Any type of considerable lantency/lag will be due to Distance from the server location and number of hops.

The game's due in decemeber, since they said it's going to be available this year, but that means the master CD should already be on its way. Digital distribution then? OK, I can go with that. There's a beta, but everyone's so secretive about it and follows the NDA so strictly that there are no leaks and not ONE person on the internet knows anybody who's got access to it to confirm that the game we're so eagerly waiting for is indeed being played and tested by someone who's not a member of the dev team. But yeah, whatever, we shouldn't be too envious of those who were lucky enough to receive one of the invites, because they're not really playing the game anyway, as it's too early to test the character development -- they're just hardware testing. Not more than one month till release and they've not even tested the character development yet...

They are only distributing CD's in Europe (I believe) and are going to have the game downloaded else where. Not 100% on that but i know for sure it will be ready via Download no problem thats just a click away.

Would you reveal God if he asked you not to? On a serious note tho, they have all your info and if you breach your contract / NDA you face Harsh concicuences. and there are known people who are in beta. This is because people who post every day 100 times or more. are no longer posting and these said people all went 'missing' at the same time. I think you can even guess why?

 

I've followed the game's development since the very first news about it hit the web and I really want to stay positive about the whole thing, but I've never been much for blind fanboism and the truth is they have never released ANY substantial proof that the game is in a state that allows for gameplay beta testing. Someone goes to Greece to visit them, we get some pics from their offices, some funny coffee cups, monitors and keyboards, and that's pretty much it. Someone's in beta, though we don't know who that is, we don't know what they're doing, what they're really testing, or if there's anything to test at all. The movie they've released a while ago doesn't really prove anything either. Sure it shows some stuff, but somehow I'm still not entirely convinced that the game's ready for release, that the servers are going to be capable of hosting 5000+ clients simultaneously, that all the skills, weapons, races are going to be well balanced, that the game client is going to be stable enough not to give any trouble to any of the thouands of people trying the game out if it does release.

What would make it truth? The records of said company barrowing 9 million for work on a computer game by the name of DF. Do some research its there. Also would a 30 min live video of someone PLAYING the game at a PUBLIC event make it real? What's it gonna take? will you still be Screaming VaporW3ar's while in open beta? How many of you have played Aion? or any other game in dev. Why is DF vaporwear if it doesnt spill all the spoils of the game from the start. They arent telling you nearly anything for a Good reason. Its because they want you to figure it out on your own. Thats half the fun!

Correction! 10,000 concurrent players. It was said by the dev's that they arent to sure where it ends either.  could be more could be less. Its easier to balance spells / skills  if the game has no level's. it will release.

There's not one MMORPG that I want to play more than DFO, and believe me when I say I'm going to be the happiest MMO gamer if I'm wrong about all this, but my gut tells me that it's either a hoax (remember Mourning?) or we're going to have another SB (or worse) on our hands in a few months.

Read the red obviously these are my responses. 

If you indeed do not want another SB, DO NOT RUSH THEM. leave out all the BS Hoax/vaporwear shit. the games real Get the fuck over it.

If anyone knew the history of other MMO's then they wouldn't hate so very much.

Originally posted by downtoearth

Originally posted by MrBoots

I have asked around, and nobody knows of anyone that was accepted into beta. I'm starting to think this thing is some kind of scam to sell preorders. Only one month of beta to test a game this complex? You have got to be kidding me.

 

they have bene in beta since last year with professional testers and with the help of AI /bots if oyu cant understand this then why are you even bothering

 

PS NO PREORDERS

Excuse me, you don't know that to be a fact at all.  All you know is what they tell you, without any verification at all.  The only thing you have to go on is blind faith.  Hardly anything that could be called a fact.  You throw these rebuttals around like they are steeped in facts, when they are more whimsy than anything.

That is why there are a lot of questions about this game and a hefty amount of skepticism.

I would not be so bad if they had not announced and canceled beta twice before.  That tends to lead to large dose of skepticism for most of us.
 

Originally posted by attckdog

Originally posted by khaelf

So do you honestly believe that it's possible for an amateur team to release the most advanced MMORPG ever without running any extensive beta tests? I'm really crossing my fingers for that to happen, but it is kind of unlikely.

Yes! Have you ever worked on a single project for around 8 years? As for amateur They all are rather skilled in their fields.

Sorry that is just nonsense, they are all rank amateurs when it comes to developing games, no list of successes to rely on.

Even the simplest EQ clones require months after months of testing to squash all bugs etc., and even then, after release, the game requires tons of fixes, not to mention balancing changes. Aventurine, however, isn't just making some cookie cutter MMO with nothing but grind in it, they're making a game with seamless world, housing, player run towns, open PVP, collision detection, mounts, sophisticated combat system, naval battles etc., and yet they don't need to do any beta testing whatsoever, even though they're pretty much just a team working out of a garage. They're confident that the game they're supposedly making is going to play well on every hardware configuration conceivable by man and that the servers are going to be just as stable as they were when they did some artificial tests.

They have been testing the entire time its been in  development. If you knew anything about programming and game development. You would know its part of the cycle. They also have had more then a year beta testing with paid beta testers.

Not one person on the planet can expect a mac to be able to play DF. Dev said so. Thus you're wrong again.... sorry? As for the server issue they have developed a new AND unqie server achatecture that uses server clusters in a much more MMO effeicnt manor. Any type of considerable lantency/lag will be due to Distance from the server location and number of hops.

If you know anything about testing a MMO, you would understand that internal testing with the small team they have is almost impossible.  Doing a beta closed or open is the only way they are going to get reliable feedback on problems and a short beta is pretty much a joke as the software team won't get any time to respond to problems. 

As to server architecture, you again have no facts to go on, for all we know it is a disaster waiting to happen.  All this talk about lag free large battlesis all hogwash until we actually verify it.  Have you ever heard of hype, this industry is highly guilty of it, not one producer has lived up to it yet and Adventurine won't be any different.

The game's due in decemeber, since they said it's going to be available this year, but that means the master CD should already be on its way. Digital distribution then? OK, I can go with that. There's a beta, but everyone's so secretive about it and follows the NDA so strictly that there are no leaks and not ONE person on the internet knows anybody who's got access to it to confirm that the game we're so eagerly waiting for is indeed being played and tested by someone who's not a member of the dev team. But yeah, whatever, we shouldn't be too envious of those who were lucky enough to receive one of the invites, because they're not really playing the game anyway, as it's too early to test the character development -- they're just hardware testing. Not more than one month till release and they've not even tested the character development yet...

They are only distributing CD's in Europe (I believe) and are going to have the game downloaded else where. Not 100% on that but i know for sure it will be ready via Download no problem thats just a click away.

Would you reveal God if he asked you not to? On a serious note tho, they have all your info and if you breach your contract / NDA you face Harsh concicuences. and there are known people who are in beta. This is because people who post every day 100 times or more. are no longer posting and these said people all went 'missing' at the same time. I think you can even guess why?

 Again you are only guessing, nothing has been released on distribution at all

I've followed the game's development since the very first news about it hit the web and I really want to stay positive about the whole thing, but I've never been much for blind fanboism and the truth is they have never released ANY substantial proof that the game is in a state that allows for gameplay beta testing. Someone goes to Greece to visit them, we get some pics from their offices, some funny coffee cups, monitors and keyboards, and that's pretty much it. Someone's in beta, though we don't know who that is, we don't know what they're doing, what they're really testing, or if there's anything to test at all. The movie they've released a while ago doesn't really prove anything either. Sure it shows some stuff, but somehow I'm still not entirely convinced that the game's ready for release, that the servers are going to be capable of hosting 5000+ clients simultaneously, that all the skills, weapons, races are going to be well balanced, that the game client is going to be stable enough not to give any trouble to any of the thouands of people trying the game out if it does release.

What would make it truth? The records of said company barrowing 9 million for work on a computer game by the name of DF. Do some research its there. Also would a 30 min live video of someone PLAYING the game at a PUBLIC event make it real? What's it gonna take? will you still be Screaming VaporW3ar's while in open beta? How many of you have played Aion? or any other game in dev. Why is DF vaporwear if it doesnt spill all the spoils of the game from the start. They arent telling you nearly anything for a Good reason. Its because they want you to figure it out on your own. Thats half the fun!

Correction! 10,000 concurrent players. It was said by the dev's that they arent to sure where it ends either.  could be more could be less. Its easier to balance spells / skills  if the game has no level's. it will release.

Actually people have played Aion at shows and reputable reviewers have seen, played and reported on it, unlike Darkfall.  Two failed beta announcements pretty much argues against believing much of what Adventurine says.

As to server load that number is absurd, they have NEVER even tried a hundredth of that number on a server.  Talk about blind faith going off the deep edge,  you are way out on even talking about such.   Until the servers are up and subject to player stress that number will not even be known by Adventurine.

There's not one MMORPG that I want to play more than DFO, and believe me when I say I'm going to be the happiest MMO gamer if I'm wrong about all this, but my gut tells me that it's either a hoax (remember Mourning?) or we're going to have another SB (or worse) on our hands in a few months.

 

Read the red obviously these are my responses. 

If you indeed do not want another SB, DO NOT RUSH THEM. leave out all the BS Hoax/vaporwear shit. the games real Get the fuck over it.

If anyone knew the history of other MMO's then they wouldn't hate so very much.

 

So basically all you arguments come from  blind faith, basically taking everything Adventurine says as fact with nothing else to back up your claims.  As noted above, this company has lied multiple times before and you stil profess to believe them?
 

It could be that everything Adventurine has been saying lately is true, anything is possible, but past practices tend to support the vaporware theory far better than your ridiculous blind faith.

so basically im not supposed to listen to the people that would know above all else weather or not the company and game exist ? You still haven't even answered my question! What would it take to make it undeniable fact that the game is releasing in the near future ? I bet God in flesh saying it still wounldn't be enough....

When you saw other games release info and videos do you shout about that too ? I'm willing to bet that you and a good majority of the people on this forum. who say it's never coming out are just saying that, because others are saying it too.

Have fun on the band wagon! Cannot wait for you and others like you to die from heart attacks when it releases.

Although most ignorant forum trolls will no doubt leave darkfall after getting all their precious 'lewtz' stolen!

If it was blind faith, how do i see so clearly. New reports, sections on every MMO site, tons of video's, Public events, Public beta, Goverment involvement, Loan records, ect....

all of which are saying
Dark Fall will be released.