The problem with the analogy is that in MMOs healing can be entirely free because it is done by NPCs that do not need money for anything and whoes sole purpose is to heal players.  Now if you wanted to make the game more like real universal healthcare then you should add taxes into the game. The higher your gold income the more the in game government takes from you and other NPCs should use healthcare too, and also add in sickness that would require medical attention.

Besides in games like WAR you pay for your own healthcare, in other words getting rid of debuffs gained from death.

Originally posted by konrad16660

What allies do we have agreements with to stay at war in Iraq?  We will be out of there sooner with Obama then with McCain.  In addition we may get some jobs back here in the US so that we can actually have more people paying taxes again.  I challenge anyone to give a decent argument that the country is better with Bush than it was before hand.

If we leave before the job is finished it will be more costly to the American people to have to go back later and finish the job. We must keep the oil flowing from Iraq to europe, without the iraqi oil, Russia has too much control over Europe. There is a reason Britain pulled voting for the war in Iraq from the table, nope NATO didn;t have a chance to say no because Britain pulled it? why because it is vital to Europe  to have that oil.  Iraq, russia, georgia, afganhistan.. they are all related. We are not the only country at war here, and Europe needs that oil. I don't think it would have mattered who was president at the time all of this occurred the same things would have happened.

why? take a read ....

Europe identifies Iraq as major gas supplier
www.ameinfo.com/161148.html

Oil in Iraq
www.globalpolicy.org/security/oil/irqindx.htm

Israel, Iran, and the US: Nuclear War, Here We Come
www.antiwar.com/orig/hirsch.php

Israel Waging 'Secret War With Iran'
www.nysun.com/foreign/israel-waging-secret-war-with-iran/85831/

US to take over Afghan mission

www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article4547629.ece

Britain spied on UN allies over war vote
www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2004/feb/08/iraq.iraq

Saakhashvili: Georgia has evidence Russia started the war

www.monstersandcritics.com/news/europe/news/article_1429574.php/Saakhashvili_Georgia_has_evidence_Russia_started_the_war__Extra__

Georgia Offers Fresh Evidence on War?s Start
www.gainesville.com/article/20080916/ZNYT03/809160312/1006/NEWS&title=Georgia_Offers_Fresh_Evidence_on_War__x2019_s_Start

Russia Jets Bomb Georgia Oil Pipeline
www.nysun.com/foreign/russia-jets-bomb-georgia-oil-pipeline/83547/

Ukraine to Cut Russian Crude from Odessa-Brody Pipeline
www.oilandgaseurasia.com/articles/p/79/article/677/

UKRAINE MOVING TO REDUCE RUSSIAN MONOPOLY ON OIL MARKET

www.jamestown.org/edm/article.php

US adviser warns of Armageddon
www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/aug/16/iraq.richardnortontaylor

Al Qaeda Organization for Holy War in Iraq
(Jama'at al-Tawhid Wa al-Jihad)
www.adl.org/terrorism/symbols/al_qaeda_iraq.asp

Britain 'made terror target by Iraq war'
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-356149/Britain-terror-target-Iraq-war.html

How NATO Chose to Fail in Afghanistan
www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1565691,00.html

SLIPPING TOWARD ARMAGEDDON: Israel in Iraq By Mark Gaffney
www.williambowles.info/isrl-pal/israel_in_iraq.html

ARMAGEDDON: Finally Unearthed?
www.bbsradio.com/cgi-bin/webbbs/webbbs_config.pl/noframes/read/5077

Yes... I do too much reading.

Originally posted by tillamook

Originally posted by crysomore

Yeah it makes sense that the more hardcore MMO players would turn democratic since they loose all creativity and motivation for career and work. What losers.

 

Lol you actually believe the stuff that comes out of your mouth? ROFL, that was by far one of the dumbest things I've heard in a long time. All republicans have done this whole election is fear monger, and it’s not working at all. Either way it’s provided me with entertainment, glad it’ll all be over in a few days. Remember to vote if you haven’t already. xD

...just because you don't like being called out.

Originally posted by girlgeek

Originally posted by Thunderous

By the way, I hope Obama and his Socialism stay as far away from the White Houst as possible.

 

McCain believes that everyone is equal....some people are just "MORE equal" than others.  What a douche.  You may say you want the Democrats our of your pocketbooks, but some people would like the Republicans out of their bedrooms, hearts, and private lives.  

You know what, stop being silly.  There's a law still on the books in VA saying it's illegal to have anal sex. Does that stop anyone?  No one is in anyone's bedroom.  Any two people can get married anywhere or have whatever kinda sex they want and you know it.  Taxes on the other hand are not optional so just cut the worthless rhetoric.

xaldraxius YOU ARE THE BIGGEST LOSER.  yea i work and yes it would suck if my job was out sourced to a different nation. but thats the country we live in. this is a capitalist country not a socialist one so companies will do whats in their best interest if you dont agree with what they think thats fine its you their employing not the other way around.  life deals you crap and you have to deal with it.  you cant whine about what happens to you but you put up with it and do the best you can.  your statement proves how much of an idiot you are i hope its illegal for you to vote.

Originally posted by xbellx777

xaldraxius YOU ARE THE BIGGEST LOSER.  yea i work and yes it would suck if my job was out sourced to a different nation. but thats the country we live in. this is a capitalist country not a socialist one so companies will do whats in their best interest if you dont agree with what they think thats fine its you their employing not the other way around.  life deals you crap and you have to deal with it.  you cant whine about what happens to you but you put up with it and do the best you can.  your statement proves how much of an idiot you are i hope its illegal for you to vote.

It's nice to see the right wing view so eloquently stated. Destroying our manufacturing base is in our National interest, and If you disagree your a socialist. I don't know how i missed that.

Originally posted by qazyman

Originally posted by xbellx777

xaldraxius YOU ARE THE BIGGEST LOSER.  yea i work and yes it would suck if my job was out sourced to a different nation. but thats the country we live in. this is a capitalist country not a socialist one so companies will do whats in their best interest if you dont agree with what they think thats fine its you their employing not the other way around.  life deals you crap and you have to deal with it.  you cant whine about what happens to you but you put up with it and do the best you can.  your statement proves how much of an idiot you are i hope its illegal for you to vote.

 

It's nice to see the right wing view so eloquently stated. Destroying our manufacturing base is in our National interest, and If you disagree your a socialist. I don't know how i missed that.

then what do you suggest oh smart one? that the government ban the companies form leaving the country? that they tell what the companies what to do and where to build it? why not have the government just take them all over? and why do you view me as the whole right wing? im just one voice ive been bashed so many times for not voting for change its not even funny.  even tho we really dont know what this change is.  and ive been called racist for not voting for obama.  dont point fingers at the right wing when theres an equal amount right back at you. personally i dont want this country to become any more of a welfare state than it already is. but thats MY OPINION

Originally posted by steuss

Let me just say, I KNOW obama does not want Universal Healthcare, but his plan is the closest of the candidates for Pres. out there.

 

Most, if not ALL MMO games have a Universal Healthcare component built into them. You get sick, die, fall unconscious, get poisoned, ailed in any way, and there is a robust system that is free to the player. POOF!! You're back on your feet, thanks to the state! Hibernia in Daoc had Healers scattered about their lands, presumibly on the King's dime. Sure, there is a small fee to keep people from abusing the system, but nothing that even the lowest couldn't afford. Heck, there was even a sliding scale on cost based on your wealth (level).

 

In wow there was no fee at all!! Just, Hey, we saved your soul, go back and get your body! Don't worry, Azeroth has taken care of the expense.

 

Do you think these life saving infrastructures are supplied by a third party coperation? I never saw a corperate logo on my healer.

 

When we're in the field and that nasty gobbie poked me with his poisoned stick, and languishing i call out for help. Most likely a wandering samarian will apply some salve, and without a second thought move on. Isn't this type of behavior what we all want and demand in our virtual lives? Why do we settle for companies raping our wallets, good samaritans don't exist,, or if they do, they send you a bill for $102k just to heal a wound.

 

So, logically, i see that if you play MMO's you can IDENTIFY with Universal Healthcare, and therefor would want to move our REAL lives into the same direction, and therefor would choose to vote obama; if only because his Health Care plan is step in the right direction.

 

 

 

Yes yes yes, i know, this is mostly in jest, but not totally. NO, i'm not for killing people just b/c i do it in game. No, i don't want to slaughter thousands of woodland creatures just to get better at it.

 

I'm merly commentting on how it is a social structure built into games that we don't even question or second guess. Yet it is something we DEMAND in game, but seem not to in RL.

I really do hope you are joking...

Using a video game to parallel a real life issue? Nope.

If only government run agencies were as efficient as those healers that magically make your wound go away for free. The fact is, it doesn't work like that; and if you think it does, then you are delusional.

And it may not cost you anything in game to get healed, but that's because all it takes is some lines of code to magically make your illness fade in game. In real life it takes tons of tax dollars and hard work from doctors to make your health problem go away, that is a pretty big difference.