Originally posted by skeptical

Actually your the exactly the low IQ type person they are talking to with this garbage. If you believe this bullshit I got a bridge to sell you too. Log into a low pop server and tell me how many players you see running around then tell me the population decrease is because they raised the servers cap.

Did you know that you could avoid all the bitching and whining by creating a toon on a more populated server? I know, it's pretty mind-blowing, isn't it!

Server merges already?  The game's only been out five minutes!

Originally posted by phluux

Originally posted by skeptical

Actually your the exactly the low IQ type person they are talking to with this garbage. If you believe this bullshit I got a bridge to sell you too. Log into a low pop server and tell me how many players you see running around then tell me the population decrease is because they raised the servers cap.

 

Did you know that you could avoid all the bitching and whining by creating a toon on a more populated server? I know, it's pretty mind-blowing, isn't it!

Doesn't change the fact that the RVR layout is flawed. I play on a high/high server *Dark Crag* and open area's in most part are a ghost town. Server merges after selling 750,000 copies in just over a month of live time is a problem. Whats 750,000 devided by 4000 *speculative*,, About 187 servers? I remember the day of seeing nearly 100 people in the AH in Stormwind  and the AH in Altdorf if i see 20 people there and its the only city during prime its busy, busy. I wish Mythic and this game well because they did get it right in there first major MMO DAOC. They just screwed it up along the way is all.

Originally posted by skeptical

Originally posted by Xtort

Originally posted by monoth

Even the most populated servers are med/med... most are low/low or low/med

I would guess that Mystic subscription levels are down to around 300k players and dropping each day...  Tier 1 and 2 are a lot of fun to play, but once you get to Tier 3 the game becomes very repetitive and boring...  Each Tier is just a copy of the one before it, with the exception of it being a bit bigger...  There is nothing new to do once you hit the level cap.... The Dungeons are just big PQ's and are next to impossible to find a group to even do a them...

People are leaving this game because there becoming bored after 4-6 weeks of playing... Not a good sign for a new MMO...

 

 

 

They.have.raised.the.frigging.quotas. Read MJ's posts regarding this if you do not believe.

If an 2000/2000 meant High/High in a 2500/2500 capped server, if you raise the cap to 5000/5000 then 2000/2000 becomes low/low.

Med/Med, low/low, super_high/super_low do not mean ANYTHING.

However, some people do not get this (IQ problem), and they will continue to give these as proof.

Actually your the exactly the low IQ type person they are talking to with this garbage. If you believe this bullshit I got a bridge to sell you too. Log into a low pop server and tell me how many players you see running around then tell me the population decrease is because they raised the servers cap.

"Actually your the exactly the low IQ type person they are talking to with this garbage."  IS this even a complete sentence ?  You seem to have a hard time forming complete sentence and yet you fell as if you can comment about someones IQ ?  What a Joke.  Anyways, since you make a comment on server pop I asked you WHAT SERVER YOU PLAY ON ?   I am sure I know the reason why you conveniently ignored the question, but since you continue to run your mouth I figured I would call you out on this again.
 

It's interesting to look over the class ratios etc. on the site the OP lists.

If these numbers are correct, there aren't that many people that lvl up to max lvl it seems. Is that because the game is 'extremely casual' or are there that many dropouts along the way ?

There's this stupid opinion that "a game has to have the most customers for it to be good".

Wrong.

A game has to be profitable but it certainly doesn't have to have the most customers.

..dare I make the next comparison.

Just because Windows has more customers than Apple, this doesn't imply that Windows is a better operating system ;)

Originally posted by zimmy910

If these numbers are correct, there aren't that many people that lvl up to max lvl it seems. Is that because the game is 'extremely casual' or are there that many dropouts along the way ?
 

because Tiers 1 and 2 are actually fairly fun and leveling is quick till 20ish then bam you are grinding mobs that are have no better AI then in the early levels and the rate of leveling gets slow so alot of people park their main to roll an alt to get the rested bonus (alot just abandon this 1)then alot just decide to keep playing the class they rerolled till 20ish then it's bam again and they decide to roll an alt until 20ish then bam i think you see the pattern now

 bee has a point guys i mean think a litlle bit

Oh one other thing. That Analytic site is flakey. There's whole guilds on my server (that have hundreds of members in them) that are missing off it.

lmao........blah blah blah, random data, blah blah, xyz's opinon, blah blah.......

This game, is what it is, it is a tight RvR PvP based game, that most of the folks leaving, don't get, or don't care to.....sure it has it's flaws, but I will say this for Mythic, they are a good customer oriented team, that is listening to it's player base as much as humanly possible\feesable.

Say what you will, but the launch of WAR is \ was one of the strongest, and tightest launches for an MMO in , oh let's see YEARS, heh......

Jo Blow can pull data how ever they want....but unless you work at Mythic, your not gonna get a real # for actual sub'd and playing population, regardless......

You folks that enjoy the game, keep doing so.....heh.....start "worrying" when merges are actually announced.

Does everyone think this game needs to hit close to WoW sub numbers in it's hay day or what?!  That is retarded......this is an RvR game, not everyone is gonna play it or like it.....that's just a fact.  (You can tell teh ignorant, as they stand around in Warcamps and what not waiting on their scenario to queue up, OMFG go do something while your waiting! gasp)

I play on Wolfenburg, and although teh posted numbers for my server are not the highest, I have NEVER logged in and found a ghost town, no matter the pairing or tier......

Part of the problem with not "finding a group" and what not is the fact MOST players look for that "OP" well op, heh.....hence toss peeps in lava till you puke scenario, even though there are like 5 scenarios at that tier....jfc, try something new.....lol

Public Quests is a BRAND new thing, nay it is not perfect, but IMO one of the coolest implementations of character advancement in a LONG time.....

Ahh hell......why bother, rofl......WAR should have never been any of your alls "The ONE" MMO.....seriously folks.....the game is doing good, and I guarentee you that Mythic has more in store......

Waiting on MortalOnline, TCoS, DF, and anyother MMO that has something appealing to it, nod

Originally posted by dewhastme

Whats the point of trashing the game constantly?  If you don't want to play the game then, well.... bye.  I think this forum should change its focus to actually talking about the game and how to have fun playing it, rather than if it will fail or not.  The game has been out for ONE MONTH, are we going to have to deal with posters sentencing it to death  at this time every single month for the rest of its run?  If so, I need a new forum to check out.  

Is everyone an amateur video game market analyst on here?  Everything past the fact that the game is still running and you can log in is simple speculation.   On that note, I have some speculation: forum posters in general do not represent "most users" but rather the extreme end... therefore most people don't have the problem with not having anything to do after reaching level 40.  Most people, including myself, are not power gamers.  Does it make this class of gamer feel good to see a competing MMO fail or do poorly?  Some people here might be one evolutionary step above the whackjobs  who constantly argue whether PS3 or xbox is better.

TOTALLY agree with you here my friend im only lev 18 wh and loving the game ( and yes i know most think its boring after lev 20 ) . I for one am not a power gamer i just enjoy the game, and im in no rush at all to level i believe a good 75 % of the pop are the same ( i might be wrong im not perfect ). And by no means is this game perfect but i believe it will have a good future and cant understand why people want it to fail and revel in the fact that it might ? baffels me

Originally posted by zimmy910

If these numbers are correct, there aren't that many people that lvl up to max lvl it seems. Is that because the game is 'extremely casual' or are there that many dropouts along the way ?

It takes time to reach the maximum level. My highest char is only 26, and I've played since launch (I do have a level 22 character, two level 12 characters and a level 11 too). My guess is casual players who are playing only 1 character (all players I know seem to try out multiple classes to figure out what they like best, though, so not sure how realistic it is to assume only 1 character) will take about 3 months to reach max level, and the game's only been out for a bit over a month.

At any rate, only so-called "rushers" would be max level by now, even if the retention rate was 100%.

How many people play WAR?? Is it more than AoC?

Here, Ill quote myself (sorta)

"Jo Blow can pull data how ever they want....but unless you work at Mythic, your not gonna get a real # for actual sub'd and playing population, regardless......"

But I am pretty confident that with all teh anti AoC bandwaggon jumping that went on, as well as other facts that there is a larger playerbase in WAR then AoC atm.   /shrug I could be wrong, but I dunna think so....

game has a decent player base just atm alot of ppl are standing to the side waitin for the big update coming in december that will, by theory, fix most if not all the issues with the game.

Originally posted by Majinash

what is with people these days, throwing numbers around and calling things a failure.  100k long term subscribers = success, more = doing great.

 

you know the population of MMOs that die? yeah, people seem to think anything less than a million subs is a failure.

 

I have fun in the game, so do most other people.  the game will stick around for a long time to come and make money for mythic and EA.  sounds like an all around success to me.

wow 100k subscribers huh, HA! *points and laughs at you*  emm you forget about a rather large company called EA that will squash this game like GODZILLA stomping on a gogo bar in Tokyo, EA will never accept this so for those of you who envision a long term 100k sub game, better wake up...

Originally posted by susanto1228

Originally posted by Majinash

what is with people these days, throwing numbers around and calling things a failure.  100k long term subscribers = success, more = doing great.

 

you know the population of MMOs that die? yeah, people seem to think anything less than a million subs is a failure.

 

I have fun in the game, so do most other people.  the game will stick around for a long time to come and make money for mythic and EA.  sounds like an all around success to me.

 

wow 100k subscribers huh, HA! *points and laughs at you*  emm you forget about a rather large company called EA that will squash this game like GODZILLA stomping on a gogo bar in Tokyo, EA will never accept this so for those of you who envision a long term 100k sub game, better wake up...

He's wrong about the 100k anyway, pretty sure I read a report somewhere stating that WAR had to have around 250k subscribers to break even.

"Break even" as on a monthly basis?

That seems doubtful. I assume it was based on some x year Return on investment plan.

Although i guess it would really depend on how much they sold to begin with... hmmm