Originally posted by PezzBomb

After having posted for about a month in MMORPG I have had quite a few funny experiences. Todays Age of Conan Review was another one of those, but just a minor bump in the road compared to all other madness in this forum. I will talk more about this further down in my post, but for now, back to my funny experiences here in MMORPG; I have had so much verbal abuse for posting about this game. I think AoC is a revolution in genral to the crappy looking MMO genre. I've been called a FC employee, a Shill (whatever that is), a salesman and so on. I've also read posts, from people typically with FailCom logo, like "I want to drag Einar Elingsensen out in my backyard and shoot him","I hope all FC's devs with their families go out of business and die", and so on. I have discussed with people that actually got banned, but then turned up with a new profile 30 min later and admitted it. I've had people making up weird posts in other forums like TTH about me to undermine my integrity. The worst thing though is that posts like above often can sit for days or so unmoderated, sometime even months. This is so unheard of that there have to be more behind this than just coincidense and sloppy moderator work. The 6/10 review today made me realize this more than anything.

There are three mainpoints I want to bring up with regards to that review

1. Jef says: "Any discussion of Age of Conan is bound to get around to its visuals, and with good reason. The game is unquestionably the best looking MMORPG to date, full of eye candy both in terms of its lush environments and the startling attention to detail given to character models and movement animations. The motions are, for the most part, fluid and life-like, a far cry from the jerky, comparatively primitive offerings of other games on the market. That said, all the sexiness comes at a hefty price, namely the steepest system requirements in the genre, and the caveat that even with a three-thousand dollar tyrannosaurus of a gaming computer, you're still going to lag like a drunken wooly mammoth and experience significant frame rate issues when attempting to engage in siege combat (or really, any combat with more than a few people on screen)." This is not correct. AoC had performance and FPS issues some time after launch (according to players that played the game from the beginning). This is not the case anymore. There are hundreds of threads on this in AoC official forums, and the concensus is performance is way up. Me myself in example started playing like +3 weeks ago, and my really boring medio Rig (only nonboring part is my GeForce 8800) runs this game on high at 30-40 FPS. I have read numerous posts where people say they run AoC on high at higher FPS than WAR. So I think good old Jef took a shortcut here and recycled some after launch common knowledge. For lag, there have been some posts as of late on lag, but this is not the type of lag you will get due to high activity in an area. This is just high latency spikes that seem to drop in every now and then for no particular reason.

2. 6/10 is way too low for this very well made game. People keep telling me that the game I play has bugs. Well guess what I can't hardly find any. Game runs smooth as silk and I have only noticed one or two funny bugs til now (LvL 40s). Maybe I am not good enoough troubleshooter or a hopeless programmer (I think that would be to put it mildly), but this game looks bugfree to me. I am well aware of that every patch holds a ton of fixes, tweeks and changes for a reason, but I am saying these bugs are not glaring issues that will hamper the average user in any way. The game is totally fine in my opinion. When I started Age of Conan I was blown away. This game seriously holds the standard of Heavenly Sword and Lost Planet on Xbox360 for the guys that have tested those (and this is only the Dx9 version). This alone is a masterfull achievement for an MMO. When I started playing I kid you not, I went WTFOMGWTFOMG, this is the coolest shit I've ever seen *spasm* "I cut his FCKing arm off" lololol. I was shocked and I am still really amazed about how well this game is made. A mixture of the graphics themselves and the very welltimed smooth animations just absolutely fullfill all my demands on visuals. I could go on and on, but all in all i gave the game a 10/10 at start. Now after 44 levels I am thinking on giving the game perhaps a 9/10 as the crafting was not as good as it could have been. Anyway all this brings me to the conclusion that 6/10 is an outrageously low score. There is absolutely now way this game can get less than 7 or 8. Maybe it was those erronous FPS or bug remarks that contributed to the 6, but 6/10 for this game is way to hard. Just compare it to what other material available in the industry today and it should not be hard to realize that a 6 is way to hard on this game.
 

3. I am not a RPer, but I have read some of the RP guys in AoC's forums reaction on Jefs review. They are shocked that the reviewer has not found Ctrl+Y in order to pop up the emoticon UI. The game has more emoticons than any other MMOs out there and still is it not good enough. As if sheer number was not enough the animations themself holds extraordinary quality. My point is AoC is one of the better RP games out there immersed in a fantastic atmosphere which only RPers can appreciate the full value of.

There is absolutely no real reason for why you can give a game like AoC same score as Matrix Online as somebody pointed out in another thread. It is completely madness. This game holds higher quality that most Xbox360 games I can find on a PC with DX9 and you still can tell me, an ex-console player, with important professor tone that this game is a 6/10. This is just madness. You see your intentions are just too much out in the open. There is no way AoC can have a 6/10 score.  Where am I evetually going with this? Well, what this is building up to is that MMORPG and these type of forums that are doing business by advertising/reviewing games and also portioning out negative publisity through forum posting/moderation, is really not as objective as we want to belive. MMORPG lost all integrity in my eyes today as it starts to dawn on me why the forum is in the condition I described on top of this post. I am not saying it is all a scam, but I would not be surprised if there is more than an unhealty amount of influences to how this site is run. Am I paranoide, perhaps, but if you as a player think Blizz and Mythic with others are not intimidated by FC semisuccessfully launch of this beast of a game (Age of Conan), you are wrong. Because anyone launching a game that can offer better graphics and animations than Heavenly Sword in the package of a MMO is a major threat. If FC get AoC running, the momentum of this monster will blow a big hole in the whole industry. Blizz know it, Mythic know it and most of the other guys. They just need to pull strings and cross fingers till the point they have their AoC equivalent out.

Finally I just like to end this by saying; Gamers out there, 6/10 is nothing but a joke. This is a 10/10 or a 9/10 (that by the way most reviewers gave up front before game launch) game. Gameenthusiasts, Don't let them get you. Age of Conan is a fabolous game just waiting for you to enter and face the consequences of real PvP (patch 3.0). 

I'll be over in AoC forums from now posting on daily basis about why FC need to wind down the money they waste on the MMORPG forum trolls. By the way, I give you remaining AoC fans the responsibility to bump this thread forever just to keep the finger up. I am out of here, Sayonara!

10/10 (9/10 for Crafters)

you got too much time in your hands bro...

um well its pretty generous that they even gave the game a 6/10 mostly because its all graphics and no game play past 20. Lack of endgame is also a big negative....

Level 1-20 - 9/10 - Polished and was fun to play

The rest  .....7/10  - What happened , had no atmosphere and was boring .... looked nice though :)

It's decent but 1/10 of what it could have been.   i wouldn't rush out to buy it with the expectations of being blown away.   Sounds like the next patch is going to be one they may cause me to cash in my chips.

I read the review as well. Dissapointing that the reviewer obviously did not have the time to catch up on post patch 2.0 AoC. Also kind of crazy that he pretty much called us idiots. LOL, now thats just a bit to emotional for a official review. LOL

Well i love AOC too, its a really great and fun game !  Well i give AOC a 8/10 !

It has improved alot since lunch and will improve ALOT more.

New patch coming this or next week !

Dear OP,

Rapid Fanboys are just as bad as haters.  Everyone knows that AOC isn't a 10/10.  Even the devs admit there's much improvement needed. 

I would say this :

1:) Game was touted as a Groundbreaking PVP experience - At launch there was no PVP system in place.     -1

( it should be noted that at the moment Im posting this we are still waiting for the second half of the PVP system)

2:) Game was touted as a FLAGSHIP DirectX10 showcase - Directx10 is still not in the game -1

3:) Game was touted as having a revolutionary combat system - button pressing increases as you level -1

4:) Game was said to have an expansive interactive landscape --- We got an entire world instanced -1

5:) Game was released with and still has the worst guild management system Ive ever seen -1

6:) Client was the most crash prone and performance crippled (35% of one of my GPUS used?)  -1

7:) Grouping was a nightmare with the crashes and grouping issues caused by these crashes -1

8:) Resource gathering and crafting are utterly an afterthought - PROBABLY THE WORST SYSTEM IN ANY MMO EVER -                      -2

9:) Lack of end game content -1

10:) Lack of any items worth a crap in the game -2

11:) But it sure is pretty when you manage to get decent frame rates -1/+1

Thats what  -2/10? I would say for me, thats dead balls accurate.

This is positive trolling.  Most trolls bash what they hate, this guy do the same thing but in a positive way.  Why is this thread not locked yet ?

Originally posted by Azrile

Ladies and Gentleman, I reintroduce to you ILOVEFUNCOM and Orionman.

I wonder how many posts he can go without using the term 'plaster inn' or that other word he used for a secondary stock offering (emmission).

I wonder how long MMORPG will let him spam the boards :)

This game is 3/10 at best.

I'd give it a 7/10 until 65, then a 4/10 afterwards. As many have said, the end game sucks.

Originally posted by PezzBomb

After having posted for about a month in MMORPG I have had quite a few funny experiences. Todays Age of Conan Review was another one of those, but just a minor bump in the road compared to all other madness in this forum. I will talk more about this further down in my post, but for now, back to my funny experiences here in MMORPG; I have had so much verbal abuse for posting about this game. I think AoC is a revolution in genral to the crappy looking MMO genre. I've been called a FC employee, a Shill (whatever that is), a salesman and so on. I've also read posts, from people typically with FailCom logo, like "I want to drag Einar Elingsensen out in my backyard and shoot him","I hope all FC's devs with their families go out of business and die", and so on. I have discussed with people that actually got banned, but then turned up with a new profile 30 min later and admitted it. I've had people making up weird posts in other forums like TTH about me to undermine my integrity. The worst thing though is that posts like above often can sit for days or so unmoderated, sometime even months. This is so unheard of that there have to be more behind this than just coincidense and sloppy moderator work. The 6/10 review today made me realize this more than anything.

There are three mainpoints I want to bring up with regards to that review

1. Jef says: "Any discussion of Age of Conan is bound to get around to its visuals, and with good reason. The game is unquestionably the best looking MMORPG to date, full of eye candy both in terms of its lush environments and the startling attention to detail given to character models and movement animations. The motions are, for the most part, fluid and life-like, a far cry from the jerky, comparatively primitive offerings of other games on the market. That said, all the sexiness comes at a hefty price, namely the steepest system requirements in the genre, and the caveat that even with a three-thousand dollar tyrannosaurus of a gaming computer, you're still going to lag like a drunken wooly mammoth and experience significant frame rate issues when attempting to engage in siege combat (or really, any combat with more than a few people on screen)." This is not correct. AoC had performance and FPS issues some time after launch (according to players that played the game from the beginning). This is not the case anymore. There are hundreds of threads on this in AoC official forums, and the concensus is performance is way up. Me myself in example started playing like +3 weeks ago, and my really boring medio Rig (only nonboring part is my GeForce 8800) runs this game on high at 30-40 FPS. I have read numerous posts where people say they run AoC on high at higher FPS than WAR. So I think good old Jef took a shortcut here and recycled some after launch common knowledge. For lag, there have been some posts as of late on lag, but this is not the type of lag you will get due to high activity in an area. This is just high latency spikes that seem to drop in every now and then for no particular reason.

2. 6/10 is way too low for this very well made game. People keep telling me that the game I play has bugs. Well guess what I can't hardly find any. Game runs smooth as silk and I have only noticed one or two funny bugs til now (LvL 40s). Maybe I am not good enoough troubleshooter or a hopeless programmer (I think that would be to put it mildly), but this game looks bugfree to me. I am well aware of that every patch holds a ton of fixes, tweeks and changes for a reason, but I am saying these bugs are not glaring issues that will hamper the average user in any way. The game is totally fine in my opinion. When I started Age of Conan I was blown away. This game seriously holds the standard of Heavenly Sword and Lost Planet on Xbox360 for the guys that have tested those (and this is only the Dx9 version). This alone is a masterfull achievement for an MMO. When I started playing I kid you not, I went WTFOMGWTFOMG, this is the coolest shit I've ever seen *spasm* "I cut his FCKing arm off" lololol. I was shocked and I am still really amazed about how well this game is made. A mixture of the graphics themselves and the very welltimed smooth animations just absolutely fullfill all my demands on visuals. I could go on and on, but all in all i gave the game a 10/10 at start. Now after 44 levels I am thinking on giving the game perhaps a 9/10 as the crafting was not as good as it could have been. Anyway all this brings me to the conclusion that 6/10 is an outrageously low score. There is absolutely now way this game can get less than 7 or 8. Maybe it was those erronous FPS or bug remarks that contributed to the 6, but 6/10 for this game is way to hard. Just compare it to what other material available in the industry today and it should not be hard to realize that a 6 is way to hard on this game.
 

3. I am not a RPer, but I have read some of the RP guys in AoC's forums reaction on Jefs review. They are shocked that the reviewer has not found Ctrl+Y in order to pop up the emoticon UI. The game has more emoticons than any other MMOs out there and still is it not good enough. As if sheer number was not enough the animations themself holds extraordinary quality. My point is AoC is one of the better RP games out there immersed in a fantastic atmosphere which only RPers can appreciate the full value of.

There is absolutely no real reason for why you can give a game like AoC same score as Matrix Online as somebody pointed out in another thread. It is completely madness. This game holds higher quality that most Xbox360 games I can find on a PC with DX9 and you still can tell me, an ex-console player, with important professor tone that this game is a 6/10. This is just madness. You see your intentions are just too much out in the open. There is no way AoC can have a 6/10 score.  Where am I evetually going with this? Well, what this is building up to is that MMORPG and these type of forums that are doing business by advertising/reviewing games and also portioning out negative publisity through forum posting/moderation, is really not as objective as we want to belive. MMORPG lost all integrity in my eyes today as it starts to dawn on me why the forum is in the condition I described on top of this post. I am not saying it is all a scam, but I would not be surprised if there is more than an unhealty amount of influences to how this site is run. Am I paranoide, perhaps, but if you as a player think Blizz and Mythic with others are not intimidated by FC semisuccessfully launch of this beast of a game (Age of Conan), you are wrong. Because anyone launching a game that can offer better graphics and animations than Heavenly Sword in the package of a MMO is a major threat. If FC get AoC running, the momentum of this monster will blow a big hole in the whole industry. Blizz know it, Mythic know it and most of the other guys. They just need to pull strings and cross fingers till the point they have their AoC equivalent out.

Finally I just like to end this by saying; Gamers out there, 6/10 is nothing but a joke. This is a 10/10 or a 9/10 (that by the way most reviewers gave up front before game launch) game. Gameenthusiasts, Don't let them get you. Age of Conan is a fabolous game just waiting for you to enter and face the consequences of real PvP (patch 3.0). 

I'll be over in AoC forums from now posting on daily basis about why FC need to wind down the money they waste on the MMORPG forum trolls. By the way, I give you remaining AoC fans the responsibility to bump this thread forever just to keep the finger up. I am out of here, Sayonara!

10/10 (9/10 for Crafters)

buy your self a brain, and stop eating shit you have aweful tast

Pezzbomb you are out of your depths mate.
No wonder people call you Funcom employee.

10/10 is something not even an AoC fanboy ever dared to give to the game.

I am not a Fanboy nor a Hater, in fact I quite like the game design, but there are many things missing to make it what it is supposed to be (and I am not talking about bugs)
This game, out of the new ones, is the one with more potential to be a success if Funcom does things right.

But 10/10?...............you must be kidding

The game is fairly fun, but too much content missing and it is too Guild oriented, the game should enable every player to compete to the top even if they don't belong to a guild.
At the moment is not possible, and many will stay away (me included), since they cannot be bothered with guild politics.

At the moment is a game for a niche market, Funcom can change this if they are smart and stop talking bullshit.
But 6/10 is pretty much spot on at the moment (and by the way 6/10 is a sufficient rating, so don't know what you complaining about)

LOL! Fanboy!

Definitely a *5* at launch, if you were to view every aspect of the game right away.

It has climbed up to a 7 now though, and will IMO grasp for an 8 after tomorrows patch.

Originally posted by PezzBomb

10/10 (9/10 for Crafters)

LMAO

9 out of 10 for crafters?

Someone must have paid for you to say that. Out of the last 10 mmo's i have played this game is by far the worse mess of a crafting system ever.

A -- either you were paid to say that or

B -- You are getting your rocks off by punking people into playing AoC

Originally posted by Azrile

Ladies and Gentleman, I reintroduce to you ILOVEFUNCOM and Orionman.

I wonder how many posts he can go without using the term 'plaster inn' or that other word he used for a secondary stock offering (emmission).

Heh its Protus.....

Straight up..

Seriously...

I think ....

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Originally posted by PezzBomb
10/10 (9/10 for Crafters)

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Dude, just by posting that you think the crafting in AOC rates a 9/10 confirms that you never even played the game.
Seriously, you are doing AOC more harm than good by posting this obvious nonsense in order to try to drum up business. All you are doing is making the potential customers run the other way instead of trying the game. If FC was smart they would get one of their staff to post on these forums stating that you are in no way affiliated with them and that you have no clue what you are talking about.
The only thing that I cant think of is that you are an AOC hater and you are trying to use reverse psychology to scare people away from the game.
Good job.

puff puff pass please!

no where near 9/10 or 10/10...sorry

Originally posted by Vespers

 

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Originally posted by PezzBomb
10/10 (9/10 for Crafters)

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Dude, just by posting that you think the crafting in AOC rates a 9/10 confirms that you never even played the game.
Seriously, you are doing AOC more harm than good by posting this obvious nonsense in order to try to drum up business. All you are doing is making the potential customers run the other way instead of trying the game. If FC was smart they would get one of their staff to post on these forums stating that you are in no way affiliated with them and that you have no clue what you are talking about.
The only thing that I cant think of is that you are an AOC hater and you are trying to use reverse psychology to scare people away from the game.
Good job.

This

These people follow the suggestions of someone and come here trying some half assed VM and dont realize they are doing more damage than good. Of course thats not surprising given FC marketing history which does whatever it takes to get bodies which is perfectly alright acording to the correspondent here. Just search his latest posts and you'll find where he defends their marketing by saying "it got you to play"

Yes FC makes great choices every day in the people they trust to expand their horizons. I am thinking unpaid volunteer devs could be the next step

Well, patch 3.0 seem at least to get a high score . It was patched in today.

Originally posted by BearShammy

Well, patch 3.0 seem at least to get a high score . It was patched in today.

Maybe not as well received as you hoped

www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/191/view/forums/thread/209795

www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/191/view/forums/thread/209786

forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php

Originally posted by BearShammy

Well, patch 3.0 seem at least to get a high score . It was patched in today.

And it appears the notoriety system is really jacked up.  Big surprise there.  People are screaming about it on the Forums.

The screwed up PvP system aside, the rest of the patch still rates a "meh".  Nope, contrary to the claims we hear after every patch (i.e. it's a 10/10, come and try it, it's a totally different game, totally new, etc), in reality, it's basically still the same game as it always has been, just with a few relatively small tweaks and changes.

The game still isn't where it should have been at launch, even though it's over five months later..

Originally posted by Rohn

Originally posted by BearShammy

Well, patch 3.0 seem at least to get a high score . It was patched in today.

 

And it appears the notoriety system is really jacked up.  Big surprise there.  People are screaming about it on the Forums.

The screwed up PvP system aside, the rest of the patch still rates a "meh".  Nope, contrary to the claims we hear after every patch (i.e. it's a 10/10, come and try it, it's a totally different game, totally new, etc), in reality, it's basically still the same game as it always has been, just with a few relatively small tweaks and changes.

The game still isn't where it should have been at launch, even though it's over five months later..

Only one bug so fare, it does not look too bad. There is a lot of screaming in the forums though lol. The gankers are not happy!!! They want to be badass without consequences. lol. Lets wait and see.