OK, so the OP didn't like the game. Fair enough, I respect his opinion & everyone has their own tastes.

So far this has been the best game I have played in a very long time,  so as I could see myself continuing to enjoy it for quite some time to come, I even signed up for the 'six month discount' subscription offer.

I hope the OP finds something he likes soon, but for me I am having a blast with WAR. 

Agree with the OP and I didn't resub at the end of the month either.  The biggest issue for me is the game didn't pull me back or make me want to log in every minute like all new MMO's should.  In fact I didn't log in after 3 weeks but I did log in on the last day to hand out my stuff. 

Even though I couldn't enjoy the game I do know one very good friend who is absolutely loving it.  However I think its due to him being in a guild with lots of mates in the same region and they are really into the RP side of the game.  So in a way its really there gang that is making it enjoyable.  For casual gamers or players who like a bit of solo work I would give WAR 0 out of 10.  However if you are into big guilds and quite active then it may be a game worth checking out.  At the end I found the combat engine to be borderline moronic and after going through one keep take over I would rather eat my own hand than go through that again.  Each to their own though.

(As an after thought I would have subbed another 1-2 months if I was in the US / Aus region then hanging on TS would have been worth it)

I was in a guild on both my order and my destruction toons. Game just didn't do it for me. I hate to use this phrase, but it got potential, it's just not there yet. My orc was 32 when I left the game so I had a good try playing it. Anyway, when I said they looked gay I was refeering to the elves mostly. I don't have a clue what kinds of men gays find attractive, but I've seen my share of gays and the way some of them look. Elves just look too damn gay to me. No offense to gay men mind you.

On the other points, WAR is played by alot of people and the naysayers around here is, as usual with trolls and their ilk, a poor measure of a games real success and playerbase and should be ignored at all times. Don't even bother to reply to them, unless you want to have some fun at their expense.

One poster wrote that pve and rvr give out rewards a plenty but I don't see people there, I see them in the scenarios. Hence my other concern that the game is a pvp minigame.

At the end, my opinion and taste is only my own. Allthough I'm sure alot of people share them (we aint that different after all), not everyone do and that's the way it should be. I posted this just cause I wanted to share my experience with the game with people and I said at the beginning that everyone should feel free to ignore this and move on  On that note, never take what we, the whiny bunch that we are, say about this and any other game for granted. This forum, as most forums are used for arguing and bickering and are a poor judge on how a game really is. One poster said metacritic is a better judge, and it is, allthough it's based on other people opinion as well. Warhammer is well worth it when they iron out the various bugs and balance it some more. Just wasn't my cup of tea at the moment. I will recheck this some 6 months or so down the line again, maybe earlier. Gonna watch those patches.

Originally posted by susanto1228

Originally posted by markoraos

Originally posted by summitus

Originally posted by markoraos

Don't let the door kick you on the way out.

Sorry but I don't have any of the problems you mentioned. I always get enough people for PQs, don't feel compelled to grind scenarios (why would anyone is a complete mystery to me) and I have no idea what you mean by "balance problems". Oh and yes, I play on an underpopulated server.

We might be playing a different game then, or at least we were playing it as a different game more probably.

Get a guild and try to understand what this game is about. You have to go with the flow of the game and your realm instead of trying to fight it. No, you won't get your open RvR right now and no, that PQ that you got your mind set up on might be well deserted. But hey, go to the other PQ that is populated, get into the group and then after its done say "hey lets do this other PQ or maybe steal a keep?". That's how you do things in this game.

 

 

Comments like " dont let the the door hit you on the way out " dont apply here, the OP makes some very good points and a hell of alot of people are feeling the same.... dont reply a to perfectly reasonable post with blind fanboi remarks and replys.

 

Helluva lot of people that actually post in this viper pit of a forum you mean? It is just that I really don't see what those complains are about since I don't experience those problems.The game has some tbh, but I find that they are almost never actually mentioned here. It's all about the same old set of "problems" that I actually do not experience, and especially not to any degree that the "cool crowd" around here insists is "game breaking".

I don't know why. Maybe I'm some kind of a freak that somehow got a special super-secret edition of WAR that is actually enjoyable to play and very easy to group... and so are all my guild members. Dunno. There's something funny here.

I play on a low pop server and I find it very easy to group. I never have any problems with finding people to PQ. I do open RvR daily and I'm enjoying myself immensely. I don't know what is the problem with me. I really would like to be like the majority of posters on this site, pissing on this game mostly because they haven't put any effort in actually understanding how it plays.

Maybe I should just join the crowd yelling "there is no open RvR" and then queue for a scenario instead of actually forming a RvR warband. Or maybe go to the first PQ, kill a mob and then proclaim the game dead because there isn't a full group waiting there for my pleasure. Hmm.. or the "PvE is shallow!" - off to that scenario again, maybe just maybe a starter quest from a hub occasionally. "Open RvR is imbalanced!" and then keep hitting that same old keep that is defended by half of the opposing faction instead of thinking strategically and attacking in some other pairing... I could go on and on in this manner you know... But frankly I'm tired. I'm off to play the game as it's meant to be played.

 

 

First of all your not a FREAK your just a Warhammer Fanboi who decided that this is the best game ever, which evidently it's not due to it's declining numbers.  And yes I know you Play Destro thats why I know you are happy probably a mindless zerg herder slashing everything in it's sight with one button.  See how you like PVP when you guys are playing with yourselves, which  your probably doing already.

Lol, according to some of the posts that have been constantly generated on this site I surely must be a freak for enjoying this game. In fact I recently heard one such "reviewer" around here stating that WAR is a game made for mentally challenged people from which it would follow that all players who do enjoy WAR must be "playing with less than a full deck".

Oh and btw I'm playing order on a severely underpopulated server, Karak Norn FYI and am a leader of an intentionally small and tight guild. The goal is to have a guild where everybody knows each other and how everybody plays so we can do some really "special forces" kinda stuff. In fact if there's more than 2 of us in a scenario we win 95% of the time. Serious open RvR is still a bit iffy for a guild of our size but when we get our numbers up a bit and our alliance starts coordinating i think we'll have a bright future.

Why am I saying this? Because I always wanted to play like that, small tight guild, people I know etc. In WoW and most other games of the type mega-guilds are the only way to go if you want to do anything (EvE a honorable exception, as always). The whole way classes work together and how the game rewards actual cooperation is what is actually drawing me the most into playing it. That and the great guild/alliance mechanics, ofc.

Originally posted by slask777

I was in a guild on both my order and my destruction toons. Game just didn't do it for me. I hate to use this phrase, but it got potential, it's just not there yet. My orc was 32 when I left the game so I had a good try playing it. Anyway, when I said they looked gay I was refeering to the elves mostly. I don't have a clue what kinds of men gays find attractive, but I've seen my share of gays and the way some of them look. Elves just look too damn gay to me. No offense to gay men mind you.

On the other points, WAR is played by alot of people and the naysayers around here is, as usual with trolls and their ilk, a poor measure of a games real success and playerbase and should be ignored at all times. Don't even bother to reply to them, unless you want to have some fun at their expense.

One poster wrote that pve and rvr give out rewards a plenty but I don't see people there, I see them in the scenarios. Hence my other concern that the game is a pvp minigame.

At the end, my opinion and taste is only my own. Allthough I'm sure alot of people share them (we aint that different after all), not everyone do and that's the way it should be. I posted this just cause I wanted to share my experience with the game with people and I said at the beginning that everyone should feel free to ignore this and move on  On that note, never take what we, the whiny bunch that we are, say about this and any other game for granted. This forum, as most forums are used for arguing and bickering and are a poor judge on how a game really is. One poster said metacritic is a better judge, and it is, allthough it's based on other people opinion as well. Warhammer is well worth it when they iron out the various bugs and balance it some more. Just wasn't my cup of tea at the moment. I will recheck this some 6 months or so down the line again, maybe earlier. Gonna watch those patches.

 

Fair enough. The game has its flaws but people screaming that it's "broken" either have no clue or have an agenda. Whatever.

See ya around mate. The way patches have been coming up I'd say that WAR will get fully polished in all aspects in 6 months or less. This "fully polished" means just that - not "playably" or "enjoyably" because it already is. Barring any catastrophic occurences that is... One of those could be a 3rd party takeover due to poor initial launch. I think those fears are behind us and imo EA/Mythic learned from recent examples that a mmo success takes some time AFTER the release. From what I heard from both of them they are ready to keep fully supporting WAR, as it is, for at least  6 months. The alternative would be a NGE-type makeover and we all know how that ended up.

Anywayz, sorry for the harsh words up there but I was kinda pushed. If you don't like the game you don't have to blow your arguments out of proportion. For example glitchy animations do not bother me because a) I don't really pay that much attention and I find them quite rare and b) it is trivial technical stuff that gets slowly phased out through patching. However you might find them intolerably irritating, and that's cool - we're different after all. It is just that it has become so common to scream bloody murder on this site for every little thing - it's like looking for excuses for having a personal taste. The danger in it is that people try to sell it as an "objective" viewpoint and thus confuse and befuddle people who are looking for some honest info on the game. Chill out, folks...

Cya later then!

Oh and open RvR still leaves a lot to be desired, I'm not denying it. However the foundation is very solid and the devs actually made it their priority to fix it in the first major patch. And even in this state it is really enjoyable and playable as one of the various game modes - just not as THE prime and only one. I'm having lots of fun right now and it doesn't bother me a bit I'll have to wait a month or so to see open RvR brought up to par with the rest of the game.

Originally posted by slask777

Yes, I know. Another 'I quit' thread...gaahhh. Feel free to skip this one.

After having played through the first free month I see no reason to sub to this game. It's still feels unfinished, got huge balance issues, rvr is a joke, xp is concentrated in the scenarios and the pve is boring.

Unfinished - Animation issues with the npc and mobs. Sometimes the mobs will freeze their animation and float all over the place. Graphics engine make NVidia based pc-builds stutter like hell. You would think they bloody bugtest the thing against one of the main developers of graphics hardware, and system boards. There are player hotfixes for that thing, but I don't want to do that each bloody patch Mythic release.

 

Never had these graphics problems that you speak of.  I built my rig myself and it is Nvidia based as well.  No stuttering, very few crashes.. and the crashing that I've experience has eased up over the last couple weeks, it rarely happens anymore.  I think the issues are with people that have outdated systems or computer illiterate people who have trashed their computers.  There are a wide range of rigs in my guild and very few of them have issues.

Balance issues - This one is a nobrainer. Playerbase is spread to thin. Way to many servers to start with. Their dream of even getting a 10th of WoW's playerbase is proven wrong. WoW just gets stronger all the time. That's what I see on my servers atleast. The other balance issue this game got is order vs destruction. Half the order toons looks like feminine boys. I found it just as well to roll female toons so I didn't had to look at some gayboy all the freaking time (nothing against gays though, just don't like how bloody feminine they get sometimes). Their look just suck, causing alot of players to choose destruction based on looks alone. Then there are those that can look past that and roll order nonetheless. Then some 60-80% of them roll bright wizards cause of the sick amount of damage they can do. It's like all those that roll a rogue in WoW cause of the stunlock. I would like to see the looks on their faces when Mythic bring the nerf-bat to the bright wizards though  Order lacks tanks like hell, while destruction got too many of them. The balance all over the place is just out of whack.

 

Every game has balance issues.  WoW, to this day.. is still constantly fixing problems with classes.  It's been one month and I've seen several attempts to balance things out.  However, you can't just expect everything to be fixed in one day or even one week.  It will take some time.. and none of these things are gamebreaking in RvR.  RvR is what the game is about, not 1v1.

 

I think Destruction being the darker side and more badass is mostly why more people go that route.  I don't really think Dwarfs look like feminine boys.  Same goes for the Empire classes.  Elves on both sides look like girls.  I guess this is a matter of opinion.  Oh, by the way..  In Warhammer lore, the Order is grossly outnumbered.  It's is also very hard for Destruction to farm scenarios on some servers because there are too many compared to the Order that is qeueing up.  If you're going to talk about Bright Wizards.. we should talk about Witch Elves.  They can tear a Warrior Priest that has medium armor down in less than 5 seconds.  That's also while the priest is healing themself.  They pretty much blow up any class in little to no time.  They have so many dumb abilities that go through armor and hurt you when you cast, attack or run.  AND they can do over 1000 damage to you in one hit..  Or the Chaos Rift with Magus that enables Destruction to farm in scenarios that wasn't fixed by limiting the targets pulled.  I've still seen whole groups decimated by it and some ground target dots.

RvR - RvR is non-existent cause of the huge amounts of xp you get from scenarios. You do get the occasional rvr-raid but most of the time the rvr-lakes stand empty. And what's with the ridiculously huge amount of rvr-lakes anyway?

 

True, though.. in the next patch they are supposed to be adding RvR influence PQ's in the lakes.  Giving more experience for quests in general would be nice.  Making the items better for normal Chapter PQ's would help.  There are a lot of RvR lakes because.. imagine this.. it is a RvR game? 

Xp - Most people I think would like to balance scenarios, rvr and pve while leveling their toons. The way scenarios give the shortest ride to endgame, public quests and general pve is empty. Most just idle in warcamps while waiting for the queue in scenarios. This game needs to reward people equally on all fronts. I would like to see scenarios be an alternative to pve and rvr, not the main activity in this game. They don't prepare you for rvr either as none of them mirror the experience you get from taking keeps and holding them.

 

As stated above, they are going to implement some things that should help.  They are also increasing the XP and renown gained from open RvR.  The most scenarios do is help you learn to play your character in team situations.  It could be worse, they could allow warbands in scenarios.. =P

Pve - For some good pve, look at how WoW did it. WoW is a mixed bag, but it's pve is excellent. Even Anarchy Online, a bleeding old mmo got better and more fun pve than WAR have at the moment. The devs at Mythic forgot to ask themselfes one critical question while they designed the pve, 'Is this fun?'. I realize that fun is something we all got different opinions about, but when almost everyone find WAR's pve boring something is wrong. Read so many threads about the pve, experienced it myself and talked to players ingame. Some like it, but most hate it.

 

WoW makes people waste weeks.. months of their lives by giving you grind timesinks.  Grinding to exalted rep could take you month in some cases.  That is downright ridiculous.  I don't consider that FUN.  If you do, go back to WoW.  PQ's are far and away better than just about any normal rep grind that WoW has to offer.  You can grind for less than a half day and get elite rank, and you actually get a reward that's useful for your class.  If you try some of the dungeons, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised in how interesting some of the fights go. 

 

Well, those are my main concerns with the game. I tried to like it, but it didn't stick. Mythic made a damn pvp minigame out of the whole thing. Game feels too unfinished aswell. I know it only got a month or so on itself and that the 1.1 patch is just around the corner, but it's too little, too late for me. I'll check this one out again later when it had some time to mature. At the moment game is just too boring and repetitive for me. I found myself at the end thinking up reasons why I should bother logging in and play the game. It was fun at the start(all games are), but when I reached mid-t3 the game just lost it all for me. Even D&DO and LotRO lasted longer for me and I hate how they introduced mana in D&DO and how empty LotRO felt most of the time. I guess both of those games got maturity now though. Hmm, maybe I'll go back and check them out again. Been away from both of them a long time now.

 

This is one of the most polished MMO's ever to hit the shelves.  They cut some things.. yes.  But the content that is there is pretty complete.  I haven't once encountered anything in WAR where I would think of the word "unfinished".  Take a few days off and play a little casually at times.  Every single person will get burned out from time to time.  I'm not a fanboi, I'm not being paid by Mythic.  I just simply enjoy the game.  I'm sorry that you don't have any patience, maybe you should try something else.

 

Edit: Nope, won't go back to WoW. So bloody damn tired of that game now. Burnt out is the word I'm looking for. While I think WoW is a great little mmo, it's not the top of my list. Never where as it's the old mmo called Anarchy Online that holds that position on my top10 list of great mmo's I've played WoW is a good second though. WoW's just a good game to compare with as it's the top dog at the moment. Reason why I used it as comparison. About the bright wizards, maybe I exaggerated a little bit about them, but a damn lot of the players do roll them. Most my deaths in pvp on the black orc is due to a bw dot or nuke.

 

Oddly enough, my guild is about.. 40% Shadow Warriors and Warrior Priests. 

why not sit and watch the TV show OP? it is more easier. you wont worry about the issure of games. let Blizzard, Myth go to eat KFC 

comn, they are just games, dont be too serious. just like playing chess. somebody think it is great while others thinks it is a pretty boring thing. when you want play, play it. when you are tired of it, stop it, when you want to pick it up again , do it. it is just for fun. above all, we are not Myth, EA, games workshop and Blizzard........ so it seems that we can do nothing about it when they dont listen to us. maybe you can tell your thoughts to the game maker directly. if the accept it, then maybe it can do something to make the WAR better, and that is what  we all want to see as well. but just whine here, maybe can do nothing about it, but depress others, especially for the new visitor to the game-like me. look OP, i just begin to play the game... when i see your words, i feel a little disappointed in the WAR, you are influencing guys like me to enjoy it.

OH my squig, OH my greenskins......

The door is that way --------> |¯|

Good luck with your next game though.

I'm not resubbing for pretty much the same reasons as OP. After finally being able to actually play the game after an upgrade, I was enjoying my time until I hit Tier 3, where I realised that since level 1 I'd done nothing but join scenarios - TA was a slap in the face.

I bought WAR thinking I was going to be constantly fighting for Keeps and such, instead I was mostly queuing for scenarios, handing in the same quests over and over again (kill 20 players, participate in TA), each time zoning out of the scenarios looking at my map hoping that we were either trying to take Keeps or defend them, RvR rarely happens.

I've been in a few WB's to take Keeps, but out of all the keeps we took, I think only 1 or 2 times they were actually being defended (and I never seem to get close to a gold bag - only need the damn chestpiece!). Again, thanks to scenarios the RvR is dead, people are lazy and can't be bothered to move from one spot to do something fun, so they join scenarios for the quick and easy leveling.

I could list the things I'd like to see, but I really doubt they'll get rid of scenarios, as that's at the top of my list.

 I love Tier 3 and all the scenarios and beautiful locations to visit, but when I play my other characters who arnt there yet, it shows me how boring  the early content is for me now that I've seen places like Avelorn and The Temple of Isha, or High Pass with its frozen lands of ice and snow. 

Originally posted by Meridion

Can I have your stuff?

whats the point of having his stuff when they are bind on equip. other junk are worthless, even if they did come in handy it'll eventually go to the toons. makes no sense in even asking, unless of course you are being sarcastic. if you were to be playing on the magnus server and asked me a week ago when my free month was still up, i woulda sent you all 200g on my account.

Originally posted by csthao

Originally posted by Meridion

Can I have your stuff?

 

whats the point of having his stuff when they are bind on equip. other junk are worthless, even if they did come in handy it'll eventually go to the toons. makes no sense in even asking, unless of course you are being sarcastic. if you were to be playing on the magnus server and asked me a week ago when my free month was still up, i woulda sent you all 200g on my account.

Umm.... its a kind of a saying you say to people leavign the game.

No offense to the OP, but I am glad some people are leaving, no I am not trying to twist this, but there is nothing worse than playing with people that whine in the game about how this game doesnt compare to their XYZ game and how it isnt fun for them.

I am currently in T3 with my guild (despite we got several that are in T4 now), we got over 400+ active members playing both Order and Destruction. Alot of us that are hanging in there and figuring out the game alot better now and knowing what to do instead of running scenarios after scenarios and actually figuring out how to play our characters as a group. As stated, this game is a Alt-Aholic Dream!

Currently I am doing the dungeons (Altdorf) and the PQ's like Mount Gundbad (for example, excellent place however for loot drops) and having a blast with my guildmates. I am finally figuring out the ToK and what to quest for to improve my character.

If your going to pull a -- Hi I am JOE SOLO and I am going to Solo this game - you will quit before your even level 20. Its a shame though, alot of people are missing out just by doing scenarios, since they want to get to level 40 asap and try to capp their renown.

Stop and smell the roses and do the PQ's if you can (I know it tough with ppl in scenarios, but you really dont have to have to group if your just attempting to gain influence and move onto the next chapter). Yeah I know your pulling a JOE SOLO by doing this, its a damn shame and mythic should look more into improving the PQ participation, but get your influence done and get out and try the next chapter.

Unlock some of your ToKs, join a Guild that is active (preferrably a guild thats uses voice chat) in the game that schedule RvR Battlekeeps runs. If you do scenarios everytime you log on, well it was nice knowing you in WAR, cause you wont last and will burn out fast.

-this is my opinion and how I play the game-

Originally posted by HiGHPLaiNS

 

I am currently in T3 with my guild (despite we got several that are in T4 now), we got over 400+ active members playing both Order and Destruction.

WOW, total buzzkill to realm loyalty eh? I hope you guys don't play both sides of the same server!

Originally posted by MMORPDEATH

Originally posted by HiGHPLaiNS

 

I am currently in T3 with my guild (despite we got several that are in T4 now), we got over 400+ active members playing both Order and Destruction.

 

WOW, total buzzkill to realm loyalty eh? I hope you guys don't play both sides of the same server!

Nope, were on different servers, its cool though to talk to other guildmates that are playing the other faction, they bring some good information. But that works both ways.

Though it would have been crazy if it was set up that our Order Guild vs our Destro Guild.

   You hit the nail on the head when you said Mythic made a PVP mini game, or mini game theme park as I like to call it, and not an addictive deep open world RVR game. Now instead of waiting at a server screen to get your mini game fix you can now wait in a virtual chat room jumping through the bland PQ's hoops or fedex, kill x quests until your scenario pops.

   Scenarios are like having to pay a monthly sub to play Team Fortress 2 or insert any number of online fps games and their game modes. As that's what it really is at it's core. Why would I play scenarios when Team Fortress 2, BF2 or COD4 does it 10x better, and is far more fun? Mythic really need to rethink their approach to RVR a redo it from the ground up and make WAR the RVR it should have been.

    It's as if they looked at the success of Call of Duty 4 and said, “Hey! Lets try do that reward system in our MMO!" " Instead of a persistent world of territory control only, players can go off to mini maps just like COD4 and grind their experience bar for goodies!” Sorry Mythic, but that formula works great for online fps, but not a MMO that's meant to be a persistent RVR world.

Originally posted by HiGHPLaiNS

No offense to the OP, but I am glad some people are leaving, no I am not trying to twist this, but there is nothing worse than playing with people that whine in the game about how this game doesnt compare to their XYZ game and how it isnt fun for them.

While  I agree with you about whiners, the game should really not be released yet. Half a year of fixes, balancing and added content would have made the game a lot better, and we would see a lot fewer I quit threads.

The game is not bad but it have the potential to be great if Mythic works really hard, it was a misstake to release it so early.

There are quite a few good comments in this thread and I think both side's of the arguement can maybe agree on 1 word.....Shallow.

This is how we(my guild) are finding it atm,we are hanging in there and hoping for the best come 1.1 patch to see how things go.

We all wanted an open pvp game,keep siege's/defense with some scenario's when you wanted a quick fix,atm I have all but gave up on scenario's are they are getting to be really old really fast,some nights we can have a great nights rvr with keep and BO's but unfortunatly this is not happening nearly enough.

Last night we ran Bastion stairs and was good fun but not something to do too many times,also dont like how we have to run say the warpblade tunnels so many times before we can have a chance in sigmar crypts,if there is no rvr going on hell let us pve where we want,we just want to have a laugh and dont care about gear grinding.

Like I said I will give it another month or so until the 1.1 come's and see how the game is looking then,will be a shame if alot of the problems arent addressed as the game can be fun at times.

Originally posted by daylight01

There are quite a few good comments in this thread and I think both side's of the arguement can maybe agree on 1 word.....Shallow.

This is how we(my guild) are finding it atm,we are hanging in there and hoping for the best come 1.1 patch to see how things go.

We all wanted an open pvp game,keep siege's/defense with some scenario's when you wanted a quick fix,atm I have all but gave up on scenario's are they are getting to be really old really fast,some nights we can have a great nights rvr with keep and BO's but unfortunatly this is not happening nearly enough.

Last night we ran Bastion stairs and was good fun but not something to do too many times,also dont like how we have to run say the warpblade tunnels so many times before we can have a chance in sigmar crypts,if there is no rvr going on hell let us pve where we want,we just want to have a laugh and dont care about gear grinding.

Like I said I will give it another month or so until the 1.1 come's and see how the game is looking then,will be a shame if alot of the problems arent addressed as the game can be fun at times.

I agree.

Same thing for me and alot of our guildies on both my toons which are both in T4 one destro mid 30's, one order 40.

on my first toon i thought maybe i out lvl'd alot of people since there was almost no rvr going on at all. so i decided to go order and hopefully find the under dog side to have more fights, same thing when i hit T4 Rvr rarly happens and only happens when a guild ever so often puts a raid together to go snag the keeps or bfo's

So maybe you see RvR 3-4 times a week and these rvr battles only last for maybe an hour or so, so if your not logged on when it happens you might not even see rvr for weeks if your unlucky, other then that its grinding scenarios or running bastion stair for 45 mins or so until your locked out.. Theres nothing really else to do other then grind PQ's which by now pretty much everyone in their 40's have full inf on all chapt 20-22.  If you enjoy running the same scenarios (Serpents Passage)  over and over more power to you, but alot of people are getting bored and trying other things.. You can hate on them and tell them theres the door all you want. But until you log on week after week and have nothing to do but run Serpents passage you will wanna leave to.

I have left for the same reason ALOT of people are leaving.  and yes we know where the door is and  we are gladly using it until mythic turns this game around.

Spew your nerdrage all you want.

could be errors typos all that junk 6am and iam going to bed. so deal with it!

Originally posted by markoraos

Don't let the door kick you on the way out.

Sorry but I don't have any of the problems you mentioned. I always get enough people for PQs, don't feel compelled to grind scenarios (why would anyone is a complete mystery to me) and I have no idea what you mean by "balance problems". Oh and yes, I play on an underpopulated server.

We might be playing a different game then, or at least we were playing it as a different game more probably.

Get a guild and try to understand what this game is about. You have to go with the flow of the game and your realm instead of trying to fight it. No, you won't get your open RvR right now and no, that PQ that you got your mind set up on might be well deserted. But hey, go to the other PQ that is populated, get into the group and then after its done say "hey lets do this other PQ or maybe steal a keep?". That's how you do things in this game.

 

That might apply for a high - high populated server.

Unfortunately only a handful (lets say around 3-4 here in EU atm) are high populated.

More than half the servers here in EU are low - low to low - med population.

Try getting there some world RvR going or PQ's. Or even a scenario to pop within a reasonable time.

And the retarded comments about: "Then you should reroll to high populated server" don't fly anymore with that many servers on low population!

Cheers