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10/25/08 12:41:16 PM#41
Originally posted by xpiher
Well if it matters any, which it doesn't tbh, I would of done the same thing if thats all these people who got banned from the forums did. There are plenty of of neg post on the forums that are simply Failcom sucks peace and thoes people weren't banned. They aren't the forum nazis that people try to make them out to be. They just follow the fourm rules. Is it right? No, but its their right to do so just like its the people who run the waralliance forums right to delete and lock threads that are of the same calibur.
Actually I can say they have been on a bit of the forum Nazi side. There were waves of server merge threads. Many got locked , moved or deleted. The standard reply was there is no need for server merges and there will not be server merge's. The day after the 52 page server merge petition thread dissapeared after one of the mods posted that there will be no server merge's, making another thread about this topic will warrent a warning ect. the new GD made an announcement that they were working on howing to do server merge's lol. Yes I can understand why many posts and threads get deleted or locked or moved. But much of what the mods have deleted, moved or locked broke the rules in no way shape or form. Honestly a simple goodbye thread that doesn't flame or anything but merely says I left because I ran out of things to do, see you guys around gets moved, locked, or deleted when a post that says I am leaving, the game was great but I am having money troubles so goodbye I hope to see you guys again soon is left untouched by the Mods. If one post is against the rules because of it's subject matter then ALL posts are against the rules regarding that same subject matter. Favortisim towards posts that you agree with and deletion,moving or locking posts and threads that do NOT break the rules is what has many crying fowl! Until recently threads bashing War were allowed to stay in GD while posts and threads praising War were not. This makes sense to who? You can say what you like by the mods on the official forrums have been a bit over zealous and unproffesional and do NOT go by the rules. They go by there personal feelings on the matter and disregard the rules as they and the GM's both feel they are above them. This happens when you do not have proffesional moderation or staff. They feel they can do what the please and make up the rules as they go along because they are volunteering there time and are in no way proffessionals. Claim it doesn't happen all you want but the truth is that it does, it has gotten better for the simple fact they caught flak for doing exactly what they have been accused of doing and HAVE been addressed about doing it and reprimanded. I've seen them do it on a regular basis before the chit started hitting the fan as have many others. Now it's not as bad by any means but it still does happen on occasion. |
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10/25/08 1:48:25 PM#42
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Well if it matters any, which it doesn't tbh, I would of done the same thing if thats all these people who got banned from the forums did. There are plenty of of neg post on the forums that are simply Failcom sucks peace and thoes people weren't banned. They aren't the forum nazis that people try to make them out to be. They just follow the fourm rules. Is it right? No, but its their right to do so just like its the people who run the waralliance forums right to delete and lock threads that are of the same calibur.
Actually I can say they have been on a bit of the forum Nazi side. There were waves of server merge threads. Many got locked , moved or deleted. The standard reply was there is no need for server merges and there will not be server merge's. The day after the 52 page server merge petition thread dissapeared after one of the mods posted that there will be no server merge's, making another thread about this topic will warrent a warning ect. the new GD made an announcement that they were working on howing to do server merge's lol. Yes I can understand why many posts and threads get deleted or locked or moved. But much of what the mods have deleted, moved or locked broke the rules in no way shape or form. Honestly a simple goodbye thread that doesn't flame or anything but merely says I left because I ran out of things to do, see you guys around gets moved, locked, or deleted when a post that says I am leaving, the game was great but I am having money troubles so goodbye I hope to see you guys again soon is left untouched by the Mods. If one post is against the rules because of it's subject matter then ALL posts are against the rules regarding that same subject matter. Favortisim towards posts that you agree with and deletion,moving or locking posts and threads that do NOT break the rules is what has many crying fowl! Until recently threads bashing War were allowed to stay in GD while posts and threads praising War were not. This makes sense to who? You can say what you like by the mods on the official forrums have been a bit over zealous and unproffesional and do NOT go by the rules. They go by there personal feelings on the matter and disregard the rules as they and the GM's both feel they are above them. This happens when you do not have proffesional moderation or staff. They feel they can do what the please and make up the rules as they go along because they are volunteering there time and are in no way proffessionals. Claim it doesn't happen all you want but the truth is that it does, it has gotten better for the simple fact they caught flak for doing exactly what they have been accused of doing and HAVE been addressed about doing it and reprimanded. I've seen them do it on a regular basis before the chit started hitting the fan as have many others. Now it's not as bad by any means but it still does happen on occasion.
What you describe is simply not true. AoC forums are in very good shape and most posts quite usefull and actually related to the game. If you are looking for exceptions however, I know of a few. Let me present to you the latest of these posters. There is a guy called fluorineAoC (alias LibertasPlz in MMORPG) he probably opens like +4 population discussion threads pr day. Naturally most of these get merged because its from the same poster on the same topic. Now tell me, what is the problem with that? When a thread dies, it's because the topic is not of interest to the forum population anymore. It is wrong to rget the attention back by starting a new thread on the identical topic in rehash mode. there is no value/benefit in that. People that can't read or understand the forum guidelines must get their stuff moderated as appropriate. Other wise anyone could screw up a forum in a second. Let's do a though experiment. What do you think would happen if I started 4 threads pr day over here on the same topic, lets say "Age of Conan have good population umbers and here is why". Well I probably get warning after a day or two, threads would probably be merged or deleted while I eventually would get banned. |
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10/25/08 1:52:21 PM#43
Originally posted by BearShammy
Actually I can say they have been on a bit of the forum Nazi side. There were waves of server merge threads. Many got locked , moved or deleted. The standard reply was there is no need for server merges and there will not be server merge's. The day after the 52 page server merge petition thread dissapeared after one of the mods posted that there will be no server merge's, making another thread about this topic will warrent a warning ect. the new GD made an announcement that they were working on howing to do server merge's lol. Yes I can understand why many posts and threads get deleted or locked or moved. But much of what the mods have deleted, moved or locked broke the rules in no way shape or form. Honestly a simple goodbye thread that doesn't flame or anything but merely says I left because I ran out of things to do, see you guys around gets moved, locked, or deleted when a post that says I am leaving, the game was great but I am having money troubles so goodbye I hope to see you guys again soon is left untouched by the Mods. If one post is against the rules because of it's subject matter then ALL posts are against the rules regarding that same subject matter. Favortisim towards posts that you agree with and deletion,moving or locking posts and threads that do NOT break the rules is what has many crying fowl! Until recently threads bashing War were allowed to stay in GD while posts and threads praising War were not. This makes sense to who? You can say what you like by the mods on the official forrums have been a bit over zealous and unproffesional and do NOT go by the rules. They go by there personal feelings on the matter and disregard the rules as they and the GM's both feel they are above them. This happens when you do not have proffesional moderation or staff. They feel they can do what the please and make up the rules as they go along because they are volunteering there time and are in no way proffessionals. Claim it doesn't happen all you want but the truth is that it does, it has gotten better for the simple fact they caught flak for doing exactly what they have been accused of doing and HAVE been addressed about doing it and reprimanded. I've seen them do it on a regular basis before the chit started hitting the fan as have many others. Now it's not as bad by any means but it still does happen on occasion.
What you describe is simply not true. AoC forums are in very good shape and most posts quite usefull and actually related to the game. If you are looking for exceptions however, I know ogf a few. Let me present to you the latest of these posters. There is a guy called fluorineAoC (alias LibertasPlz in MMORPG) he probably open up like +4 population discussion threads pr day. naturally most of these get merged because its from the same poster on the same topic. Now tell me, what is the problem with that? When a thread dies, it's because the topic is not of interest to the forum population anymore. It is wrong to reopen the thread in a rehashmode by starting a new thread on the identical topic just to get attention again. People like that need to get their stuff merged for the sake of the forum quality and belive me AoC forums are quite good now in fact.
I agree the forums are better since the mods were repremanded. The point is that doesn't change what happend and what occasionaly still happens. I said that many that say the over zealous moderation and biased moderation hasn't and doesn't occasionaly still happen are being untruthful. You can't change what I witnessed for myself on many occasions lol. Again I have agreed they are better. |
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10/25/08 1:55:57 PM#44
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Actually I can say they have been on a bit of the forum Nazi side. There were waves of server merge threads. Many got locked , moved or deleted. The standard reply was there is no need for server merges and there will not be server merge's. The day after the 52 page server merge petition thread dissapeared after one of the mods posted that there will be no server merge's, making another thread about this topic will warrent a warning ect. the new GD made an announcement that they were working on howing to do server merge's lol. Yes I can understand why many posts and threads get deleted or locked or moved. But much of what the mods have deleted, moved or locked broke the rules in no way shape or form. Honestly a simple goodbye thread that doesn't flame or anything but merely says I left because I ran out of things to do, see you guys around gets moved, locked, or deleted when a post that says I am leaving, the game was great but I am having money troubles so goodbye I hope to see you guys again soon is left untouched by the Mods. If one post is against the rules because of it's subject matter then ALL posts are against the rules regarding that same subject matter. Favortisim towards posts that you agree with and deletion,moving or locking posts and threads that do NOT break the rules is what has many crying fowl! Until recently threads bashing War were allowed to stay in GD while posts and threads praising War were not. This makes sense to who? You can say what you like by the mods on the official forrums have been a bit over zealous and unproffesional and do NOT go by the rules. They go by there personal feelings on the matter and disregard the rules as they and the GM's both feel they are above them. This happens when you do not have proffesional moderation or staff. They feel they can do what the please and make up the rules as they go along because they are volunteering there time and are in no way proffessionals. Claim it doesn't happen all you want but the truth is that it does, it has gotten better for the simple fact they caught flak for doing exactly what they have been accused of doing and HAVE been addressed about doing it and reprimanded. I've seen them do it on a regular basis before the chit started hitting the fan as have many others. Now it's not as bad by any means but it still does happen on occasion.
What you describe is simply not true. AoC forums are in very good shape and most posts quite usefull and actually related to the game. If you are looking for exceptions however, I know ogf a few. Let me present to you the latest of these posters. There is a guy called fluorineAoC (alias LibertasPlz in MMORPG) he probably open up like +4 population discussion threads pr day. naturally most of these get merged because its from the same poster on the same topic. Now tell me, what is the problem with that? When a thread dies, it's because the topic is not of interest to the forum population anymore. It is wrong to reopen the thread in a rehashmode by starting a new thread on the identical topic just to get attention again. People like that need to get their stuff merged for the sake of the forum quality and belive me AoC forums are quite good now in fact.
I agree the forums are better since the mods were repremanded. The point is that doesn't change what happend and what occasionaly still happens. I said that many that say the over zealous moderation and biased moderation hasn't and doesn't occasionaly still happen are being untruthful. You can't change what I witnessed for myself on many occasions lol. Again I have agreed they are better.
Well you agree and at the same time say there is something special about them in a negative way. My claim is they are just another forum and they are doing reasonably well. |
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10/25/08 2:05:55 PM#45
I have 2 subs on EVE and one on AoC and I havent played EVE for at least a month. Glad you enjoy it. I am finding myself enjoying it more and more which is a nice change from getting more bored with a game. The latest patch and the stability now has made a massive difference. I seriously cant remember the last time I had CTD or lag spike. Its almost like they flicked a switch and that annoying CTD issue just disappeared. Then the PvP minigames came in and I am finding myself enjoying them and it now gives a real PvP outlet for solo players. Plus its great practice as well if you are into guild vs guild. The last thing I have to say is that the game does have a feeling of danger about it. Even today I was hunted down by a higher level player (ranger) and she managed to blow my hiding cover. However being an assassin I snuck back out and followed her in sneak mode only to hack her down as she was happily wandering around. Moments like that make PvP fun and interesting. Better still I whispered her and said I would be plaguing her all day then wandered off on my own adventure but knowing she would be looking over her shoulder for a while. FUN |
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10/25/08 2:14:45 PM#46
Originally posted by BearShammy
What you describe is simply not true. AoC forums are in very good shape and most posts quite usefull and actually related to the game. If you are looking for exceptions however, I know ogf a few. Let me present to you the latest of these posters. There is a guy called fluorineAoC (alias LibertasPlz in MMORPG) he probably open up like +4 population discussion threads pr day. naturally most of these get merged because its from the same poster on the same topic. Now tell me, what is the problem with that? When a thread dies, it's because the topic is not of interest to the forum population anymore. It is wrong to reopen the thread in a rehashmode by starting a new thread on the identical topic just to get attention again. People like that need to get their stuff merged for the sake of the forum quality and belive me AoC forums are quite good now in fact.
I agree the forums are better since the mods were repremanded. The point is that doesn't change what happend and what occasionaly still happens. I said that many that say the over zealous moderation and biased moderation hasn't and doesn't occasionaly still happen are being untruthful. You can't change what I witnessed for myself on many occasions lol. Again I have agreed they are better.
Well you agree and at the same time say there is something special about them in a negative way. My claim is they are just another forum and they are doing reasonably well.
I will admit I do hold a bit of negativity towards the moderators on the AoC board, it wasn't due to personal misstreatment but the misstreatment I have seen of others that I haven't witnessed on an official forums before. I actually personaly know 2 people that quit AoC due to the treatment they recieved from GM's and moderators on the official forums. These people are there customer service reps and have done a very poor job until recently. While things are admittably better when they do make a slip it is very noticable due to past mistakes which is why they are treated a bit harsher by myself and some others. It is compairable to other forums now, but past mistakes make every slip a painful reminder and fuel the fire for many. The point of this post and my previous in this thread was to point some of the above out due to the fact many seem to think much of this is unwarrented because it hasn't happend to them. Many have a different view on this because it has happend to them and others they know. The fact remains they messed up big time in the beggining of things and only recently have made a turn around. They do still slip because there are human, they are simply held to a different standard than other moderators due to blantant abuse of there power in the past. I have said I won't deny they are doing better, but I have also said I won't forget past missdeads. Those that do not know history are doomed to repeat it I believe is a saying which is moderetly applicable here. |
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