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10/18/08 11:31:45 AM#26
Some of the people may just not like the art style, i personally think its great and you just cant say the graphics are shit, its your opinion if you dont like them but the fact is the graphics ARE NOT shit.
Man im looking forward to this game.... i think the people that troll darkfall simply do not understand the concept of the game properly. In my opinion, a sandbox mmorpg like this with PVP elements AND PVE element's coupled with skill based combat, a very large world, indepth player and guild politics because of the indepth crafting and city building, basically proper freedom to do what you want, should be phenominal if done well. The only thing anyone could argue against about the game is if they like the art style or not. |
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10/18/08 11:52:23 AM#27
WHAT video are yall talking about? please link???? <('_'<) <('_')> (>'_')> |
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10/18/08 12:17:44 PM#28
Here...
http://www.crdamaia.com.br/media/DarkfallOnTV_darkfallonline.com.br.wmv
http://www.crdamaia.com.br/media/Darkfall_Presentation_Short_darkfallonline.com.br.wmv
from Athens Digital Week. When in doubt check forumfall http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?p=1824431#post1824431
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10/18/08 1:17:15 PM#29
I would be happy if darkfall community would stop making it as darkfall is the only game in the making implentating a sandbox pvp content filled world.. As that is not a true statement at all.. There are two other games right now in the making that are going for the same general idea as darkfall. You guys just are fanboys and want to hype this game up much more because the others are not dwarves,elves, orcs, humans, etc...( also because a lot of people have been waiting for this game for soooo long.) You guys sank pretty low to dehype those two games completely out just to hype up darkfall. Along with the other games.(I find it very funny and just shows how desperate darkfall community is to make there game look better.) But really... Does it matter. We really should be praising both darkfall, Fallen Earth, and Earthrise devs for braking a trend that is very hard to brake as it has not been proven a succesful way of getting a lot of cash in. I am not a troll what so ever. I am really excited to see darkfall myself and try it out. I am a hardcore pvp person myself and I love having freedom to do what I want when I want. I just can't stand this on going communities that do not allow suggestions or opinions. Instead the player will get branded with the title of troll. I understand if the guy is totally ignorant and just saying "this game looks like it is going to suck." or people that cry "vapourware vapourware." Yes than they are asking for it. But I mean opinions and suggestions... come on.. really... Like it is going to hurt the game? Yeah right.
As for the new video again it is not all that great. (I come from a line of high quality graphical games such as, Crysis, Unreal, Fear, Half-life 2, and other games of such gender. So I know what really good detail looks like. But I can not count those as those are not MMO's. I would like to say EvE has outstanding graphic and lighting. Also Lotro on Dx10 has outstanding graphics. AoC has outstanding graphics. I don't see nothing new with the AI. I mean I have seen AI like that before so nothing too revolutionary. But again I am excited to play Darkfall and try it out. I really like an intense sandbox FFA pvp inriched world. |
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10/18/08 1:45:59 PM#30
Originally posted by Joker2240
Lol you cant just speculate and say that all the Darkfall followers have rated the other games low, its more like that the darkfall follower just rated Darkfall really high. Theres lots of trolls around on mmorpg.com most probably because of games such as AOC which was advertised to be great and then it releases not even nearly feature complete. There are alot of very skeptical people out there about ALL games and alot of people, it seems, who just bash any game because they dont like something about it or just dont understand and are ignorant towards it. I agree we should be praising all the games like this coming out for breaking the mold, but im afraid that the praising probably isnt going to happen because the general idea of what mmorpg's are "Supposed" to be like have been bent by games such as WoW. Most people nowadays who play mmorpg's dont even properly understand the concept of a sandbox mmorpg. Most of the people i see being bashed on here, being called a troll ARE trolls, i have seen hardly anyone who puts darkfall down in one way or another do it in a constructive manour, its always something like "This games graphics suck" or "This game will fail" and then giving no real reason why they believe it so. I think you have just got confused, you havnt properly been following the forums and you have just been reading what people SAY about the trolls and forming your own opinion on biased sources about the community. Also the graphics are pretty decent when you consider that the engine will support very large battle's at a reletively decent graphic setting, its being created so that it wil not be such a stress on the servers and for the players pc also. I hope Darkfall does well and i think from what i have seen and read that i will enjoy it and i hope other people see that this game, in theory, should be very enjoyable if done well. |
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10/18/08 1:56:23 PM#31
Originally posted by Joker2240
Honestly what Earthrise and Fallen earth have going against it isn't DarkFall fans dehyping it. It's the fact that it's in the Sci fi genre. With StarTrek and SGW and EvE as well as SWG they have a few heavy hitters against them. SWG is going to lose that liscense soon and a new Star Wars MMO will hit the field. Being a Fantasy Sandbox DarkFall has a natural edge because at this point in time Fantasy MMORPG's are still more popular of the 2 genre's. While I am a die hard Sci Fi fan it seems to only work for Movies, books ect but not MMO's. The only Sci Fi MMO I would likely play would be if for some wierd reason they ever made a Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy MMO. That I would play. I am sorry the games you like aren't overly popular right now. Insinuating that is the DarkFall fans fault though is off base. Look DarkFall's hype meter and count how many people that rate it down are from other communities. Some of it is actually legitamit, Some of it is not and Some are duplicate accounts made a day before they dehype it. So it's not very logical to blame the DarkFall community. I personaly haven't looked at info of either game but I can tell you right now I am deffinetly not interested because of the simple Sci Fi tag. Sorry not my cup of tea as far as MMO's go sandbox or other. |
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10/18/08 2:03:48 PM#32
Yes, it is a different genre so you cant go comparing really, they are all different games it just depends on what you would prefer in the end. I think there are just alot of trolls around that dont fully understand what the games are trying to offer and just dehype them because they are ignorant. |
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10/18/08 2:08:48 PM#33
haha i love your sig revolutionary my ass.... The game is filled with 100% old concepts. |
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10/18/08 2:16:17 PM#34
Originally posted by LordRelic
Where are they? Point me one game that has them. |
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10/18/08 2:16:54 PM#35
Originally posted by LordRelic
Its seen as revolutionary within the mmorpg industry because of the whole concept of the game not because of the individual features but the game as a whole. |
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10/18/08 3:10:13 PM#36
Yes the only difference is that they are Sci-fi base.... Either than that they still will be having the same general idea. So to the people above me Darkfall is not the only revolutionary game out there. So shhhh....It is alright to say that the game is revolutionary. But to actually say the game is revolutionary in the industry is kinda out of text and you need to read up on mmo's. Also to the people that actually typed a logical convo out. I praise you for actually going through all that trouble to type out a logical comment. But I have to disagree with you. Go on the earthrise hype meter and read through them. Count the people that either say darkfall or are die hard darkfall follwers. Yeah... That is un called for and really not necessary. It is a shame that this is a kind of act praticed in all the other mmo's. It is really stupid that people are just judging a game because it is sci-fi or of the screenshots. I mean... it might not be your cup of tea but still you have to admit some of the mechanics are really cool.
I hate fantasy based games... But you do not see me bashing darkfall..(I did once because i was getting annoyed at the amount of darkfall fans dehyping Earthrise.) I might actually try darkfall because of the mechanics they are implenting into the game interest me. Not because of the genere or because of the graphics. Gameplay makes up for everything!
P.S. I doubt it is going to be larger than EVE online.... yeah... P.S.S. I can type the similiarties of Darkfall and Earthrise if you want... |
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10/18/08 4:35:04 PM#37
Originally posted by Joker2240
Your still trying to compare games even though they are a different genre of fiction. Just because it has features which in concept are similar doesnt mean they are of the same style lol. Like i said the whole reason to it being revolutionary are the whole features combined just like pretty much any other mmorpg that had the same features would be seen as revolutionary. There are no other games which give you a sandbox world in a fantasy universe that allows a very large ammount of players to battle it out at the same time, skill based combat, control their own cities, build boats and sail, etc pretty much do what you want and before you say shadowbane that doesnt have nearly as many features at all. To have all these features together is a large feat, they need new technology and techniques to actually pull this off so that is why it is seen as revolutionary. |
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10/18/08 4:42:41 PM#38
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10/18/08 4:47:05 PM#39
Originally posted by gamerman98
All of them. lol |
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stayontarget
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Girlfriends come and go but Epic battles are Soulbound |
10/18/08 4:52:39 PM#40
Originally posted by gamerman98
No one really knows what DF has until its tested by real players. Hands on play testing is what counts not a bunch of hear say . I still have don't have much hope for this game, but you can never tell, crazier things have happened before. Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries... |
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10/18/08 4:54:52 PM#41
Hype kills games. Also Darkfall will suffer,unfortunately. |
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10/18/08 4:58:42 PM#42
Originally posted by alessiora
Only by people who have an over active and exagerated imagination when it comes to what Darkfall is offering. If you understand games, how they are created, the possibilities of the engine and technologies/techniques being used then you will know what is possible within what features have been proclaimed. After that its just hoping that what features are said to be in the game are delivered. |
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10/18/08 5:00:22 PM#43
Clearly only the insane or delusional think that DF is 100% revolutionary. In this age of MMOs it is probably impossible to create a game (that would actually be fun) that has 100% original concepts. Every MMO has taken core concepts from the pioneers in the genre, and DF will be no different. However they combine many concepts in a truly unique way. Warning: While i have played many MMOs, i certainly have not played them all, so let me know if any of the following is off. I have never seen a MMO that has FPS/Oblivion style combat COMBINED with full loot anywhere pvp. Planetside is an example of a game that was FPS and imo was very fun, and there have been a number of full loot games, but none that i can recall that had both. This may not be 100% original, but it is definitely original in today's trend of MMOs: AI that is dynamic like DF claims to have (and at this point after they have proven plenty, it is definitely now a case of innocent into proven guilty so please dont say they havent proven they have this yet). Im talking about once you kill a mob, its gone. WoW, WAR, EQ2, Vanguard, and other current day MMOs all have camps and mobs that respawn, and some have instanced dungeons which allow you to safely bring a group in to your private dungeon. DF has AI, on paper, that will grow in size if they go uncheck, and will not respawn once cleared out. Mobs that will also loot you!!! And please again lets try to be mature here and until the game comes out and doesnt have these features, assume they are in. If they arent on release, feel free to call me out. I could go on but my main point im trying to make is that the level headed fans are not considering DF to be 100% original. But in today's market they are definitely branching out with a combo of original ideas, and taking combinations of past successful games.
~~ Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296 "The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester "If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos |
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10/18/08 5:02:50 PM#44
It is also nice to see many of the old time vapor ware trolls now making posts that admit DF is real and going to release. You guys have come a long way, though some are still trying hard not to admit they were wrong. State of the game on release is now the hot topic, and until beta starts soon no one will really be able to know about that. But for now, it is definitely innocent until proven guilty. ~~ Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296 "The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester "If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos |
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10/18/08 5:06:42 PM#45
Originally posted by imbant
Im looking forward to Darkfall and hope it releases with the features promised but ... As far as mobs looting you UO did this 1st and i thought this was an awesome feature ..More games should do this... |
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10/18/08 5:07:42 PM#46
Originally posted by stayontarget
No one really knows what DF has until its tested by real players. Hands on play testing is what counts not a bunch of hear say . I still have don't have much hope for this game, but you can never tell, crazier things have happened before.
like ive said before i doubt there lieing at this point |
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10/18/08 5:11:05 PM#47
Originally posted by Scorchien
Im looking forward to Darkfall and hope it releases with the features promised but ... As far as mobs looting you UO did this 1st and i thought this was an awesome feature ..More games should do this...
Thanks for pointing that out, i never played UO. Makes sense since the game is based a lot off of UO, but again also combined with other features to make it an original combination, as well as current day graphics. ~~ Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296 "The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester "If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos |
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stayontarget
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Girlfriends come and go but Epic battles are Soulbound |
10/18/08 5:12:32 PM#48
Originally posted by imbant
nice post imbant. I always look at any game with doubt and a dash of disbelief thrown in, but that does not mean I want the game to fail because I don't. Show me anyone that wants a game to fail for personnal reasons and I will show you a FOOL......So I say to the DF dev's>>good luck but I will still question your product. Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries... |
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10/18/08 5:15:31 PM#49
Its a shame you didnt play UO back in the day it really was a great game and a very good rpg experience. |
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originalegg
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Joined: 10/09/06
Darkfall Releases - February 25th!!! Vaporware trolls = scum |
Originally posted by stayontarget
nice post imbant. I always look at any game with doubt and a dash of disbelief thrown in, but that does not mean I want the game to fail because I don't. Show me anyone that wants a game to fail for personnal reasons and I will show you a FOOL......So I say to the DF dev's>>good luck but I will still question your product. Being a healthy skeptic is certainly ok, and if people weren;t skeptical about games then we would see even more AoC type games being released. By your definition of a fool though, you should see many on the DF forums. Miscbattles, Tenspotting, or whoever their current account is are people who have a personal vendetta against the game and just are here to put it down. Im all for rational discussion about the pros and cons of any game....but after so much nonsense surrounding trolls and DF, some fans have a tough time seeing the difference. ---sig---
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