Originally posted by musicmann

My 2 cents on this matter. SWG is pretty much nothing more than dead weight for SOE. With the playerbase being what it is, i truly can't see SOE crying over possibly losing the SW license, especially when they have the Agency and DC online in the works.

With the new SW MMO being announced on the 21st, i predict this will finally give SOE the chance to clean it's MMO house and dump not only SWG but the Matrix online. The only thing will be the timing that they do so.

I would imagine that LA, Bioware and SOE exec's have sat down and discussed what would be the best situation for all parties involved. For LA, this would probably mean letting SOE run with SWG until the new game is ready to be launched.

This way, LA's and SOE still make some money and keeps a SW MMO out in the public's eye. Even if  there is good or bad public opinion on the shut down of SWG, it's a win win situation, because even bad publicity is good.

The biggest winner out all of this will be the SW fans. They will get to dive into a new SW MMO that hasn't been tainted by the stinch of the NGE. The new MMO may not be what everyone would like it to be, but with Bioware behind the wheel, it should be a damn good MMO, that will captrure the true SW essence.

unfortunately, LA will still be involved, though i pray they don't. Every time they try to force change or start seeing $$ flash before their eyes, games usually get shot to sh*t. I pray they remain very very hands off the bioware mmorpg.

The best thing that happend to LEC in a long time was the departure of Jim Ward.  Hopefully new management has changed things.

Originally posted by precuorbust

The best thing that happend to LEC in a long time was the departure of Jim Ward.  Hopefully new management has changed things.

 

Yeah games have really sucked since he took over.

LOL they are all taking you for a ride and it is an indiana jones mmo LOL jk. I am really excited for this. i tried SWG for the first time in april and went back to CoV in april.  I love star wars and loved the KOTOR games. I R excited.

1) As bad as I want it, we just won't see a Pre-CU style of game. It just won't happen. Sorry!

2) I don't think it will be a WOW Clone. Why? Because, why would you play a WOW clone when the real thing is still around. Why would any one of the 10 million WOW subs leave a game to start all over in a different game with the same mechanics...why?

What I hope to see is something unlike anything we have ever seen before. A new game that is really "Next-Gen" and will blow the MMORPG industry away. I want to see something that maybe we have never thought of before. A game full of Innovation and Imagination. Not the same old Recycled Crap!

If they want to reach 10 million, it will need to hold your hand throughout the game and be marketed extensively throughout the far east (china, korea, etc) <--a big reason WoW has reached 10 million

I think the game will have similarities composed of WoW, KOTOR and Mass Effect, with some new twists thrown in. I don't think it'll have too much in common with SWG Pre-CU except things that can also be attributed to other games.

As cool as Pre-CU was, it did fail in the minds of LA, and accordingly, the game won't be anything like it, except, again, things that can also be found in other games.

As for SWG-NGE, it'll be shut down so that subs won't be split between the two. An MMO's early success has a lot to do with a healthy population, and they will want to maximize that population. They know that most people playing SWG play if because it's starwars, not becasue it's the best made mmo, and most of them would transfer to the next generation starwars game for that reason.

My 2 credits
 

people who liked swg probably wont like the bioware star wars mmo..its going to be a casual wow/war/lotro type of mmorpg.

IF Bioware's MMO will be about SW, chances are that itll be storydriven with character advancing through quests. A sandbox MMO will be highly unlikely. Just look at the games they made.

Also for the people who say 2009. Dream on. How many MMO's did release within a year after the announcement?

The predictions in this thread are based on nothing. Next time use the word hope instead of prediction please.

Originally posted by someforumguy

IF Bioware's MMO will be about SW, chances are that itll be storydriven with character advancing through quests. A sandbox MMO will be highly unlikely. Just look at the games they made.

Also for the people who say 2009. Dream on. How many MMO's did release within a year after the announcement?

The predictions in this thread are based on nothing. Next time use the word hope instead of prediction please.

Hope or Prediction, it doesn't really matter.

The game has already been made. The Mechanics have already been decided upon. There is nothing you, I, or anyone else can do about it. I dare say Lucas himself could not change the course of the game at this point in development. This project has been underway since 2005 and when they make the "Official Announcment" on the 21st, you will be seeing all the decisions that were made years ago.

So it matters not what we think here. Yes it is fun to think about what could be. Yes it is fun to hope and pray the Pre-CU fairy sprinkles magic Bacta Dust into the cereal bowls of the DEVS each morning. But, lets face it, what ever we get it was decided A LONG TIME AGO IN A GALAXY FAR FAR AWAY....

Originally posted by Force_Fire

Originally posted by someforumguy

IF Bioware's MMO will be about SW, chances are that itll be storydriven with character advancing through quests. A sandbox MMO will be highly unlikely. Just look at the games they made.

Also for the people who say 2009. Dream on. How many MMO's did release within a year after the announcement?

The predictions in this thread are based on nothing. Next time use the word hope instead of prediction please.

 

Hope or Prediction, it doesn't really matter.

The game has already been made. The Mechanics have already been decided upon. There is nothing you, I, or anyone else can do about it. I dare say Lucas himself could not change the course of the game at this point in development. This project has been underway since 2005 and when they make the "Official Announcment" on the 21st, you will be seeing all the decisions that were made years ago.

So it matters not what we think here. Yes it is fun to think about what could be. Yes it is fun to hope and pray the Pre-CU fairy sprinkles magic Bacta Dust into the cereal bowls of the DEVS each morning. But, lets face it, what ever we get it was decided A LONG TIME AGO IN A GALAXY FAR FAR AWAY....

 

I dont expect anything lol, thats why I used 'IF' . I only know that Bioware+Lucasarts are making something. and wanted to point out that it is highly unlikely that the new game will be anything like PreCU SWG. Or that it will be released soon. If its even about SW.

2.5-3years is nothing in MMO land. Some MMO's have a preproduction period of a couple of years. I usually add +6months to any estimated release. So if they will say 2009, I wont expect it before june 2010.

Originally posted by someforumguy

Originally posted by Force_Fire

Originally posted by someforumguy

IF Bioware's MMO will be about SW, chances are that itll be storydriven with character advancing through quests. A sandbox MMO will be highly unlikely. Just look at the games they made.

Also for the people who say 2009. Dream on. How many MMO's did release within a year after the announcement?

The predictions in this thread are based on nothing. Next time use the word hope instead of prediction please.

 

Hope or Prediction, it doesn't really matter.

The game has already been made. The Mechanics have already been decided upon. There is nothing you, I, or anyone else can do about it. I dare say Lucas himself could not change the course of the game at this point in development. This project has been underway since 2005 and when they make the "Official Announcment" on the 21st, you will be seeing all the decisions that were made years ago.

So it matters not what we think here. Yes it is fun to think about what could be. Yes it is fun to hope and pray the Pre-CU fairy sprinkles magic Bacta Dust into the cereal bowls of the DEVS each morning. But, lets face it, what ever we get it was decided A LONG TIME AGO IN A GALAXY FAR FAR AWAY....

 

I dont expect anything lol, thats why I used 'IF' . I only know that Bioware+Lucasarts are making something. and wanted to point out that it is highly unlikely that the new game will be anything like PreCU SWG. Or that it will be released soon. If its even about SW.

2.5-3years is nothing in MMO land. Some MMO's have a preproduction period of a couple of years. I usually add +6months to any estimated release. So if they will say 2009, I wont expect it before june 2010.

We do know it is STAR WARS (The Old Republic) and I think we will see a brief overview of some of the Key Features of the game, along with a few Alpha quality Screenshots. I also agree we will see it in 2010 or 2011...not before.

Originally posted by Force_Fire

Originally posted by someforumguy

Originally posted by Force_Fire

Originally posted by someforumguy

IF Bioware's MMO will be about SW, chances are that itll be storydriven with character advancing through quests. A sandbox MMO will be highly unlikely. Just look at the games they made.

Also for the people who say 2009. Dream on. How many MMO's did release within a year after the announcement?

The predictions in this thread are based on nothing. Next time use the word hope instead of prediction please.

 

Hope or Prediction, it doesn't really matter.

The game has already been made. The Mechanics have already been decided upon. There is nothing you, I, or anyone else can do about it. I dare say Lucas himself could not change the course of the game at this point in development. This project has been underway since 2005 and when they make the "Official Announcment" on the 21st, you will be seeing all the decisions that were made years ago.

So it matters not what we think here. Yes it is fun to think about what could be. Yes it is fun to hope and pray the Pre-CU fairy sprinkles magic Bacta Dust into the cereal bowls of the DEVS each morning. But, lets face it, what ever we get it was decided A LONG TIME AGO IN A GALAXY FAR FAR AWAY....

 

I dont expect anything lol, thats why I used 'IF' . I only know that Bioware+Lucasarts are making something. and wanted to point out that it is highly unlikely that the new game will be anything like PreCU SWG. Or that it will be released soon. If its even about SW.

2.5-3years is nothing in MMO land. Some MMO's have a preproduction period of a couple of years. I usually add +6months to any estimated release. So if they will say 2009, I wont expect it before june 2010.

 

We do know it is STAR WARS (The Old Republic) and I think we will see a brief overview of some of the Key Features of the game, along with a few Alpha quality Screenshots. I also agree we will see it in 2010 or 2011...not before.

Hell!....a lot can happen between now and then!

Originally posted by RANGER_BATT

Originally posted by Force_Fire

Originally posted by someforumguy

Originally posted by Force_Fire

Originally posted by someforumguy

IF Bioware's MMO will be about SW, chances are that itll be storydriven with character advancing through quests. A sandbox MMO will be highly unlikely. Just look at the games they made.

Also for the people who say 2009. Dream on. How many MMO's did release within a year after the announcement?

The predictions in this thread are based on nothing. Next time use the word hope instead of prediction please.

 

Hope or Prediction, it doesn't really matter.

The game has already been made. The Mechanics have already been decided upon. There is nothing you, I, or anyone else can do about it. I dare say Lucas himself could not change the course of the game at this point in development. This project has been underway since 2005 and when they make the "Official Announcment" on the 21st, you will be seeing all the decisions that were made years ago.

So it matters not what we think here. Yes it is fun to think about what could be. Yes it is fun to hope and pray the Pre-CU fairy sprinkles magic Bacta Dust into the cereal bowls of the DEVS each morning. But, lets face it, what ever we get it was decided A LONG TIME AGO IN A GALAXY FAR FAR AWAY....

 

I dont expect anything lol, thats why I used 'IF' . I only know that Bioware+Lucasarts are making something. and wanted to point out that it is highly unlikely that the new game will be anything like PreCU SWG. Or that it will be released soon. If its even about SW.

2.5-3years is nothing in MMO land. Some MMO's have a preproduction period of a couple of years. I usually add +6months to any estimated release. So if they will say 2009, I wont expect it before june 2010.

 

We do know it is STAR WARS (The Old Republic) and I think we will see a brief overview of some of the Key Features of the game, along with a few Alpha quality Screenshots. I also agree we will see it in 2010 or 2011...not before.

 

Hell!....a lot can happen between now and then!

At this point, not too much. The core elements and ideas for how this game will be played are already in place. Sure, some things can change, but not the main game. What we see on the 21st, as far as the main concept of the game goes (WoW oriented or Pre-CU oriented), is what we are going to get. At least, that is what I think you are adressing.

I didn't know that Bioware did the very first KOTOR. So this new MMO should be pretty damn good.

The Chronicles of Spellborn is using the new unreal engine, I kinda hope the engine they are going to be using is pretty close to what they used for The Force Unleashed.

This game is suppossed to be out in late 2009.

Once this does come out, so long SWG for good.

Well the writing is on the wall for SWG, it is just a matter of time. Allowing Bioware to make a Star Wars based mmo just proves that. This will allow LA and SMed to wash their hands of the mess they created thanks to the NGE. Thugh I highly doubt this will be a sandbox but this time around they will do things alot better.

Originally posted by SaintViktor

Well the writing is on the wall for SWG, it is just a matter of time. Allowing Bioware to make a Star Wars based mmo just proves that. This will allow LA and SMed to wash their hands of the mess they created thanks to the NGE. Thugh I highly doubt this will be a sandbox but this time around they will do things alot better.

WHAAAA??? THe f, a lot better, nahhh, it will be very much unl8ike swg pre-cu, most likely a lot of running around killing people, with no real house, city, crafting, profession development, i think it is gonna be an online killing spreee, no r/p, no real; pre-cu stuff like everyone wishes, no lightsabre building, and group hunts like with the rancors and shit....gonna be nothing...ABSOLUTELY NOTHING LIKE PRE-CU SWG.

Originally posted by boognish75

Originally posted by SaintViktor

Well the writing is on the wall for SWG, it is just a matter of time. Allowing Bioware to make a Star Wars based mmo just proves that. This will allow LA and SMed to wash their hands of the mess they created thanks to the NGE. Thugh I highly doubt this will be a sandbox but this time around they will do things alot better.

 

WHAAAA??? THe f, a lot better, nahhh, it will be very much unl8ike swg pre-cu, most likely a lot of running around killing people, with no real house, city, crafting, profession development, i think it is gonna be an online killing spreee, no r/p, no real; pre-cu stuff like everyone wishes, no lightsabre building, and group hunts like with the rancors and shit....gonna be nothing...ABSOLUTELY NOTHING LIKE PRE-CU SWG.

No it's not going to be like pre-cu swg. Pretty much linear, story-based with levels with a persistent world I would expect.

my prediction will be on October 22nd (maybe the 23rd) the lead designer of SWG now (whoever the hell it is) will make a huge annoucement basically boiling down ot

omg guys we just consulted this new server guru and like omg we found out a way to bring Pre-nge servers up and running ... amazing huh? so anyone that wanted to play Pre-nge will be able to join one of these special servers.

we will of course be reactivating accounts in good standing so they can try out this amazing discovery!

Originally posted by Ravanos

my prediction will be on October 22nd (maybe the 23rd) the lead designer of SWG now (whoever the hell it is) will make a huge annoucement basically boiling down ot

omg guys we just consulted this new server guru and like omg we found out a way to bring Pre-nge servers up and running ... amazing huh? so anyone that wanted to play Pre-nge will be able to join one of these special servers.

we will of course be reactivating accounts in good standing so they can try out this amazing discovery!

Never gonna happen my friend. It's a real shame, cause this would be a chance for everyone to get what they want here. We get our game back and SOE gets 250K in subs back within 30 days...

Pride is an Expensive Sin

Even if this is a KOTOR MMO I can't see SWG being pulled because of it, at least not in the near future. It will stick around on life support as one of those station access games ...

One thing I do fear  ( if this is a KOTOR MMO ) that bioware stick with one of there trademark features, a feature that's been in the bulk of the games that they have developed (at least every game I've played) and thats the mid action pause button.

Originally posted by jinxit

Even if this is a KOTOR MMO I can't see SWG being pulled because of it, at least not in the near future. It will stick around on life support as one of those station access games ...

One thing I do fear  ( if this is a KOTOR MMO ) that bioware stick with one of there trademark features, a feature that's been in the bulk of the games that they have developed (at least every game I've played) and thats the mid action pause button.

Come on  Bro it a MMO, let think about it. That feature only works in Single Player games.

Try Mass Effect a great game and the combat is amazing...

One thing that will  make the game good will be Bioware great story telling and creative quest system...

I think this mmo could blow the industry away, anyone who's played kotor would probaly agree with the potential a kotor mmo has.

When you played kotor 1 and 2 i actually felt like i was in the star wars universe, from running around on dantooine to running through ancient sith temple's. If they are able to recreate this kind of feeling while adding the mmo aspect to it, the possibilities are almost endless, and from bioware's past track record i think they got what it takes to make a ground breaking and mabye one of the best mmo's yet.

It definetly wont be a question between wow like or precu, i highly doubt they are gonna tread along the lines of what's already out there, They are gonna try and give us something that hasnt been seen before.

I personally have really high hopes for this mmo, and there is a very good chance i wont be disappointed.

As for swg, it will most likely die once this comes out, half the people playing only play because they love starwars so much, but if they see a newer and better game come out they will most likely switch in a heart beat.

Originally posted by kitaz

I think this mmo could blow the industry away, anyone who's played kotor would probaly agree with the potential a kotor mmo has.

When you played kotor 1 and 2 i actually felt like i was in the star wars universe, from running around on dantooine to running through ancient sith temple's. If they are able to recreate this kind of feeling while adding the mmo aspect to it, the possibilities are almost endless, and from bioware's past track record i think they got what it takes to make a ground breaking and mabye one of the best mmo's yet.

It definetly wont be a question between wow like or precu, i highly doubt they are gonna tread along the lines of what's already out there, They are gonna try and give us something that hasnt been seen before.

I personally have really high hopes for this mmo, and there is a very good chance i wont be disappointed.

As for swg, it will most likely die once this comes out, half the people playing only play because they love starwars so much, but if they see a newer and better game come out they will most likely switch in a heart beat.

Why can't they make this game with all the fan favorite elements of WOW combined with all the best Sandbox elements of a Pre-CU SWG game?

Why can't they do that?

This game is being developed using the hero engine www.heroengine.com/

Taken from this website:

"At BioWare we selected HeroEngine because it had the most sophisticated and complete development tools available for building an amazing online experience. Our team wanted a great rapid prototyping environment and to work with experienced MMO developers. HeroEngine from Simutronics is a perfect fit for BioWare Austin's requirements."
Gordon Walton,
Co-Studio Director of BioWare Austin

Take a look at the hero engine website. The game can be made within 3 years with this engine. The game can be released within a year from now. Exactly for the christmas campaing. Damn it can even be finished already and what we are about to see is game going live within 2 months. This will be really revolutionary.

Edit: Take a look at the fast world design capability, yay! 3 years: www.heroengine.com/world.asp

it won't be the top mmo out there, but it should be fun if EA doesn't rush them..like they do everyone else.