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Getalife

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Posts: 421

 
10/15/08 7:39:10 AM#1

1. Go to a zone where you can suicide by jumping off a cliff, or into lava.

2. Have a bunch of people suicide in that manner.

3. Have healers rez them

4. Repeat

You get VP by doing this. So all you have to do is cap a couple BO(not even the keeps!) then do this and you cap the zone.

 

There are two organised WARBANDS which are doing this and i am sure they are quite aware that they are exploiting a broken game mechanism. Really this is killing T4 RVR. I am fan and all but can't keep subscription on if this continues.

 

Read more about the issue here

vnboards.ign.com/warhammer_online_age_of_reckoning_general_board/b22997/108997612/p1
 

Grunties

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Posts: 788

10/15/08 7:42:02 AM#2

Destruction cheating? Who would have thought. This is totally unexpected.

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entrails_770

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10/15/08 7:47:23 AM#3

Its quite an inventive way of doing it tho lol...no wonder they are nearl;y taking altdorf lol...

Elsabolts

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Posts: 1361

Life Liberty and the Pursuit of those that would threaten It

10/15/08 7:49:38 AM#4

Ok if this is true and they knowingly did this are there accounts goning to be banned and guilds disbanned. What is being done to prevent this from continueing.

Getalife

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10/15/08 7:52:20 AM#5
Originally posted by Elsabolts

Ok if this is true and they knowingly did this are there accounts goning to be banned and guilds disbanned. What is being done to prevent this from continueing.

 

Sadly so far nothing and i already lost 4 guildmates who reached 40 recently and got frustrated with this bugs and exploitation by destruction. I can see a lot more players quitting in near future because the end game is quite useless in given situation.

 

How many times you can make alts and level them up to T3? it gets boring if you can't enter T4 zones without worrying destruction exploiting the bugs.

entrails_770

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Posts: 19

10/15/08 7:54:30 AM#6

You would have to hope that mythic will take a hard line on this exploit and sort it out if they want to keep their subs after the free month.

Elsabolts

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Life Liberty and the Pursuit of those that would threaten It

10/15/08 7:54:51 AM#7

Well it looks like Mythic is trying to listen to its players and my guress is they will do something to these folks but might not say what.

gestalt11

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Posts: 3885

10/15/08 7:56:47 AM#8

I have known about that bug for weeks.

 

It does not explain all the crazy zone control.  It is stupid.  It did (and maybe still does) exist.  But there are other bugs going on too.

 

Also supposedly on Averhiem GMs were watching the Altdorf keep take.  Yet there are screenshots of huge amounts of VP magically and almost instanteously appearing in Thunder mountain even when DEstruciton has no points.

 

Perhaps that was this bug who knows.  Maybe Mythic is just that incompetent.

MMOPlaya

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Posts: 28

10/15/08 8:07:55 AM#9

What is VP?

RedwoodSap

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10/15/08 8:11:59 AM#10
Originally posted by MMOPlaya

What is VP?


 

Victory points.

This is yet another example of how crappy the internal and beta testing for Warhammer has been.

Why they have not acted on this immediately is an indication of how they are going to handle cheaters. They plan on doing nothing.

Elsabolts

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Life Liberty and the Pursuit of those that would threaten It

10/15/08 8:16:09 AM#11

They watch these boards and Jacobs will post every now and then, so they know folks are posting about this.

gestalt11

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10/15/08 8:16:44 AM#12
Originally posted by MMOPlaya

What is VP?

 

Various things contribute Victory points.  These point contribute to which side controls a zone.  Once they hit a certain, seemingly shifting, amount the zone is controlled,

 

In the endgame T4 zones there are 3 zones per pairing.  An iniitial Neutral zone and then the locked zones.

 

In order to get to a fortress and then the capital.  You must control this neutral zone, then control the next, then defeeat the fortress.

 

Destruction has been capping zones in 30 minutes or less and storming Altdorf in 5 hours or less.  Very good order teams have tried to do similar things only to have the zones instantly revert to locked because destruction magically seems to gain VP.

 

The whole thing has been a farce.

Redmow

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10/15/08 8:30:19 AM#13

 Do you guys really think, if this is the case, Mythic is going to let this stay the way it is?

 I'm more angry with the people exploiting this, again if this is the case. Sounds like someone accidentally found this exploit and instead of reporting it, they utilised it.

 I would have never noticed this while playing, I think it is just one of those things that slipped by the testers. Every game has these types of exploits that can only be found through mass play. But, to get angry and quit is just silly. Now, if they don't fix it and let it stand....yeah, I can then understand quitting.

 

baso80

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Posts: 92

10/15/08 8:46:00 AM#14

Props for destruction for exploiting this!!

 

that is why destruction is cool. They always find a way to win.

 

order is nothing but lame.

 

destro ftw

gestalt11

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10/15/08 8:51:43 AM#15
Originally posted by Redmow

 Do you guys really think, if this is the case, Mythic is going to let this stay the way it is?

 I'm more angry with the people exploiting this, again if this is the case. Sounds like someone accidentally found this exploit and instead of reporting it, they utilised it.

 I would have never noticed this while playing, I think it is just one of those things that slipped by the testers. Every game has these types of exploits that can only be found through mass play. But, to get angry and quit is just silly. Now, if they don't fix it and let it stand....yeah, I can then understand quitting.

 

 

That bug has been around for weeks.  And VP has been messed up since late Beta.  So yeah I think they will until they get their nose rubbed into the steaming pile of crap they layed down.

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10/15/08 9:00:32 AM#16
Originally posted by Redmow

 Do you guys really think, if this is the case, Mythic is going to let this stay the way it is?

 I'm more angry with the people exploiting this, again if this is the case. Sounds like someone accidentally found this exploit and instead of reporting it, they utilised it.

 I would have never noticed this while playing, I think it is just one of those things that slipped by the testers. Every game has these types of exploits that can only be found through mass play. But, to get angry and quit is just silly. Now, if they don't fix it and let it stand....yeah, I can then understand quitting.

 


 

QFT!

Azrile

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10/15/08 9:22:54 AM#17

When people argued that having the open beta only last til 20 levels was fine.. well, this is what you get.

Welcome to open beta everyone.. please pay at the door.    You have now entered the paid beta phase of Warhammer.

................................................
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maskedweasel

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10/15/08 9:33:48 AM#18

I've seen many destruction players cheating on a bunch of different levels with warping in PVP and such.. so this doesn't surprise me.

However.. Just report it, and be done with it.  Looking at the patch notes for today, Mythic is fixing and enhancing a bunch of things pretty regularly.  We're looking at hotfixes like 2 times a week and major updates one time a week.  If you don't think mythic is responding quick enough bombard them with some requests.

You also have to think that alot of the things that were fixed are things that effect all or most tiers, not just tier 4... which, since its the last tier, most people will only base their opinions on the first couple tiers, so I do believe getting those fixed are more important.

But to say they won't fix it at all is ridiculous.  I bet if it gets reported  consistently you'll see something within the next 2 weeks tops.

Daffid011

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10/15/08 10:10:48 AM#19

This is why they don't have official forums.

neodavie

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10/15/08 10:24:55 AM#20

I like how you are all expert programmers and know exactly what needs to be done to fix a bug like this and could if only you were on the Mythic staff. Don't you think Mythic probably knows about this and is working to fix it. I mean seriously the game is only about a month old, of course there are issues that need to be solved.

Steelguru

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Posts: 119

10/15/08 3:01:00 PM#21

 

Is this getting fixed in the patch today, anyone know?   I saw they are making a number of changes, something like this should be a priority over anything else.

banthis

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Posts: 1761

10/15/08 3:09:50 PM#22
Originally posted by Azrile

When people argued that having the open beta only last til 20 levels was fine.. well, this is what you get.

Welcome to open beta everyone.. please pay at the door.    You have now entered the paid beta phase of Warhammer.

Please list 1 Major MMO Game that let their Open Beta Players (..not testers because no oen goes to OB to Test thats what Closed Beta is for)...to experience end game....lemme see...EQ2..nope..SWG Nope...WoW Nope (not for months)...AoC...uh its still kinda not fixed even now...hmm..im seeing a pattern.
 

Allowing Open Beta players to get to 40 does nothing but allow them a Free Ride it's suicide to any one who wants to keep their game open after launch.  Its one thing to auto level the players to 40 to let them test it..its another to let them play straight through as if the game was live.  Sorry this argument is old, dead, and just as dumb as ever from the free loaders.

To Be honest I'm disappointed to hear the exploit is still there but not really surpsied.  There's no MMO game on earth that didn't have some exploit left in an end game, mid game, or beginning game area somewhere at some point.   Seeing as the Exploit still didn't get them a Capture of the city I hardly call it a huge deal if it allowed them to suddenly go into the enemy city..then I'd could see all the QQing going on.

Channce

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Posts: 354

10/15/08 3:12:58 PM#23

I have been watching and reporting all the "cool kids" over on destruction with the exploits they have so "skillfully" found.

When I said i had "time", i meant virtual time, i got no RL "time" for you.

Sovrath

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Posts: 4929

10/15/08 3:20:08 PM#24
Originally posted by Redmow

 Do you guys really think, if this is the case, Mythic is going to let this stay the way it is?

 I'm more angry with the people exploiting this, again if this is the case. Sounds like someone accidentally found this exploit and instead of reporting it, they utilised it.

 I would have never noticed this while playing, I think it is just one of those things that slipped by the testers. Every game has these types of exploits that can only be found through mass play. But, to get angry and quit is just silly. Now, if they don't fix it and let it stand....yeah, I can then understand quitting.

 


 

Just for laughs, I'll ask: has anyone actually reported this or are people just assuming that they will see these posts?

boomerangx

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Joined: 2/05/08
Posts: 259

I hope Aion doesn't suck...

10/15/08 3:26:51 PM#25
Originally posted by Steelguru

 

Is this getting fixed in the patch today, anyone know?   I saw they are making a number of changes, something like this should be a priority over anything else.

 

idk but there has to be a major reason the servers are coming back down...hopefully this is one of the things getting fixed - but i highly doubt it

I play a lot of games...

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