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Lobbyboy69  10/09/08 12:17:57 PM

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Originally posted by OrionMan
Originally posted by Hamrtime2

Comparing war to Aoc is like comparing


War- Aoc
Cris Rock- Lenny Bruce
Tony Stewart- Dale Earnhardt
Derek Jeter- Mickey Mantle
Aerosmith- Elvis
NY Yankees- Montreal Expos
Bald Eagle- Carrier pigeon
Bill Clinton- Richard Nixon
John Elway- Johnny Unitas

 

In all seriousness The 2 cant be compared. War is a complete mmo (with a few problems yes) thats a ton of fun. I had a lot of fun in AoC also in the begining but it turned very very stale right around level 48. It only got worse at the end game. I remember alot of us got to 80 at the same time and after we were done we all stood around and said "what now?". Right after that we all pretty much quit a week or so after. There just isnt anything to do.

Now I havent reached the endgame in War yet but it looks alot more promising than AoC did.

p.s. Who is gonna be the first person to figure out the undertone in the above comparisons :)
 


 

You have aboviously not read what people think of WAR. It's boring, no fun, outdated. So complete (which I really think many people would dispute) or not a boring game is just useless. A game is supposed to be fun. AoC wins hands down just with simple stuff as fatalities and weapon arcbased damage. If you want to bring in the cannons, AoC blast WAR away with it's PvE content, graphics, atmosphere, combat system in general, characters and so on...

 

The only fun thing I found in AOC after Tortage was to find the cancel subscription page. At least War has some fun getting to the boring end game.
 

 
Hamrtime2  10/09/08 12:39:29 PM

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Originally posted by OrionMan

Originally posted by Hamrtime2

Comparing war to Aoc is like comparing

War- Aoc
Cris Rock- Lenny Bruce
Tony Stewart- Dale Earnhardt
Derek Jeter- Mickey Mantle
Aerosmith- Elvis
NY Yankees- Montreal Expos
Bald Eagle- Carrier pigeon
Bill Clinton- Richard Nixon
John Elway- Johnny Unitas
 
In all seriousness The 2 cant be compared. War is a complete mmo (with a few problems yes) thats a ton of fun. I had a lot of fun in AoC also in the begining but it turned very very stale right around level 48. It only got worse at the end game. I remember alot of us got to 80 at the same time and after we were done we all stood around and said "what now?". Right after that we all pretty much quit a week or so after. There just isnt anything to do.
Now I havent reached the endgame in War yet but it looks alot more promising than AoC did.
p.s. Who is gonna be the first person to figure out the undertone in the above comparisons :)
 


 
You have aboviously not read what people think of WAR. It's boring, no fun, outdated. So complete (which I really think many people would dispute) or not a boring game is just useless. A game is supposed to be fun. AoC wins hands down just with simple stuff as fatalities and weapon arcbased damage. If you want to bring in the cannons, AoC blast WAR away with it's PvE content, graphics, atmosphere, combat system in general, characters and so on...
 



I guess thats why so many more people are playing AoC than War.

/sacasm off

 
Gkarn  10/09/08 1:25:53 PM

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If it was that easy, everyone would do it.

Originally posted by taus01

 

WAR has a PvP and RvR system in place that is actually meaningfull and working. Renown Ranks reward you with Armor and Armor Sets. Guilds can take over Keeps which gives everyone near the Keep Buffs, give bonus to Guild experience (yeah guilds actually level up in WAR and you get rewards for that). Guild Standards add to the tactical aspect of RvR/PvP. Scenarios are quick PvP mini games that reward you with rare drops, experience and renown. Open RvR you take over objectives to get renown and give the whole Tier buffs and bonus to exp/merchants/renown.

AoC is not even in the same league if it comes to meaningfull PvP RvR.

 

Some corrections as there still seem to be many people that haev no clue what they are talking about:

@Azrile

PVP - Considering both games are supposedly pvp games.. neither is really that good at the moment. Warhammer has a better pvp system in place, unfortunately because of their reward system, players are flocking to the least fun aspect (minigames) and avoiding the meat of their pvp (RvR). AOC suffers from population problems ( seiging doesn't happen, so the only real pvp is pointless skirmishes in a very small area). If you really like mini-games (bg/scenarios) then Warhammer wins. If you don't like them, then neither game is really that great.

On my server there are daily sieges and battle onbjectives in open RvR. Some of the best Armor/Weapons come from open RvR. The rewards are just the same as for Scenarios, you actually need to do them both to complete Armor Sets.

@CobraSolidus

When that is said I also want to comment on WAR as I have tried that. That game has just the same amount of zoning. Whenever you try to enter RvR you have to zone (lets not forget RvR is supposedly the core of this game). Thats ok, but graphics here again is not that hot. And, there is in general a lot of waiting before getting into RvR (either because there is not enough people, there is too many people or because the whole thing is just terribly imballanced)

You do not have to zone every time you want to PvP/RvR, just to join the Scenarios. Scenarios pop within minutes, some are not fun however and will pop very rarely. I have waited a maximum of 5 minutes to join a scenario. They usually pop within 1-2 minutes after i queue up. (Volkmar Server)

@Kanemura

The thing is, when a player can run Crysis at a very playable framerate, play COD4 on damn near max settings for hours on end with no issues, and run Oblivion and Bioshock flawlessly as well, then a game with subpar graphics like WAR should run even better...right? WRONG!

I run WAR in 1920x1080 highest seting with forced 4xAA and 4xAF at 60fps. The only time i have to switch to fastest framerate setting is in sieges with 100+ players. I take that compromise for the pure fun these sieges are. I have a Q6600@2.8GhZ, 2GB RAM and a 8800 GT Superclocked. No fancy SLI or super gaming PC. The system is however clean of any useless backround tasks or crappy software. Only thing that runs in the background is Virus/Firewall software and Ventrillo. Oh and it is XP, on Vista i never get 60 FPS and trust me i tried.


 

I agree with this guy 100%.

I am having a blast playing War.

AoC was fun, but not close to being fun as Warhammer.

 

What Warhammer has is a team feeling aspect that AoC will never have.

Had AoC divided the countries for PvP AKA Bane, then it would have been top notch.

 
MMORPDEATH  10/09/08 1:46:48 PM

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Originally posted by Hamrtime2

Comparing war to Aoc is like comparing


War- Aoc
Cris Rock- Lenny Bruce
Tony Stewart- Dale Earnhardt
Derek Jeter- Mickey Mantle
Aerosmith- Elvis
NY Yankees- Montreal Expos
Bald Eagle- Carrier pigeon
Bill Clinton- Richard Nixon
John Elway- Johnny Unitas

 

In all seriousness The 2 cant be compared. War is a complete mmo (with a few problems yes) thats a ton of fun. I had a lot of fun in AoC also in the begining but it turned very very stale right around level 48. It only got worse at the end game. I remember alot of us got to 80 at the same time and after we were done we all stood around and said "what now?". Right after that we all pretty much quit a week or so after. There just isnt anything to do.

Now I havent reached the endgame in War yet but it looks alot more promising than AoC did.

p.s. Who is gonna be the first person to figure out the undertone in the above comparisons :)

 

undertones makes zero sense to me, sorry.

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orzo  10/09/08 1:49:04 PM

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I havent tried WAR yet due to my experiences with AoC, Im far more gun-shy when it comes to spending money on any MMO.... WoW looks like the place I will land again. I left a day or maybe a week after the BC launch and so I have all that to do, all the while knowing its a solid development team behind the game.

Some people are like slinkies, they dont really have a purpose, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.

Malickie  10/09/08 1:56:10 PM

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Originally posted by orzo

I havent tried WAR yet due to my experiences with AoC, Im far more gun-shy when it comes to spending money on any MMO.... WoW looks like the place I will land again. I left a day or maybe a week after the BC launch and so I have all that to do, all the while knowing its a solid development team behind the game.

WAR's problems are less on the technical front and more on the community side. Sure there's reports of bad performance (hitching etc...). Most of the reports are about RvR being a no show, while scenarios reign supreme. From a content/game-play standpoint WAR is okay, it offers possibly to much in every tier, creating a rift between players and their choice of whats more fun to do.

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orzo  10/09/08 2:08:02 PM

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Originally posted by Hamrtime2

Comparing war to Aoc is like comparing


War- Aoc
Cris Rock- Lenny Bruce
Tony Stewart- Dale Earnhardt
Derek Jeter- Mickey Mantle
Aerosmith- Elvis
NY Yankees- Montreal Expos
Bald Eagle- Carrier pigeon
Bill Clinton- Richard Nixon
John Elway- Johnny Unitas

 

In all seriousness The 2 cant be compared. War is a complete mmo (with a few problems yes) thats a ton of fun. I had a lot of fun in AoC also in the begining but it turned very very stale right around level 48. It only got worse at the end game. I remember alot of us got to 80 at the same time and after we were done we all stood around and said "what now?". Right after that we all pretty much quit a week or so after. There just isnt anything to do.

Now I havent reached the endgame in War yet but it looks alot more promising than AoC did.

p.s. Who is gonna be the first person to figure out the undertone in the above comparisons :)
 

I hate riddles! TELL US!

Some people are like slinkies, they dont really have a purpose, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.

Malickie  10/09/08 2:13:27 PM

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Originally posted by orzo
Originally posted by Hamrtime2

Comparing war to Aoc is like comparing


War- Aoc
Cris Rock- Lenny Bruce
Tony Stewart- Dale Earnhardt
Derek Jeter- Mickey Mantle
Aerosmith- Elvis
NY Yankees- Montreal Expos
Bald Eagle- Carrier pigeon
Bill Clinton- Richard Nixon
John Elway- Johnny Unitas

 

In all seriousness The 2 cant be compared. War is a complete mmo (with a few problems yes) thats a ton of fun. I had a lot of fun in AoC also in the begining but it turned very very stale right around level 48. It only got worse at the end game. I remember alot of us got to 80 at the same time and after we were done we all stood around and said "what now?". Right after that we all pretty much quit a week or so after. There just isnt anything to do.

Now I havent reached the endgame in War yet but it looks alot more promising than AoC did.

p.s. Who is gonna be the first person to figure out the undertone in the above comparisons :)
 

I hate riddles! TELL US!

AOC is flashy , while WAR is going to be epic (a classic)? Or something along those lines?

For every minute You are angry , You lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson

jadan2000  10/09/08 2:39:58 PM