WAR (Warhammer Online)

Originally posted by NotArkard

I got to 20 on my marauder on a low pop server when I found I was having an awful time getting into RvR to level up. I promptly moved to a full pop server and have been doing a lot better since. I managed to zoom to rank 11 in a couple of hours of gameplay.

This is what i believe the OP is trying to point out is. That when you can't RvR because your on a low pop server which is fine you dont get any XP vs a high pop server where u can get into scenerios or RvR combat. The game says it has PvE so support it and give them there due XP Mythic.

Levelling is not a joke. You don't like the speed. You have been spoiled by WoW.  Ask yourself what you like best about MMOs.

Do you like to explore every nook and cranny? WAR is huge. Lots of places to go and Tome unlocks.

Do you like PvP?  Scenarios are the fastest exp and Reknown out there

Do you like raids? Keep captures and defense are increasing and raid dungeons are out there.

PvE - Public Quests, quests are everywhere . City quests and dungeons too

Crafting - WAR seems to have a rapid progession in crafting. Downside here is it seems to have little impact on your performance.

If you want to get to 40 in a week, return to Warcraft. Warhammer is a game where you can enjoy the ride to the endgame versus tolerate the ride to grind endgame raids.

 I've hit level 20, almost 21, and there's MASSES of PVE content I haven't touched. Zero tome/lore unlocks sinze my first zone. My map is covered with little green 'quest here' pimples. I could roll up another elf alt just to do the PVE content I've leveled past, at this point. Done no quests in the other tiers.

And, actually, Mythic said that they wanted the entire 1-40 experience to be fun; the game isn't supposed to be a mad race to 40 to 'start playing'. You can engage in scenarios and RVR content from about level 5 on. 

I am a High Elf on Ostermark or Ostergard, something like that. I went for an RP server, and they usually have lower populations. No matter when I play, though, I usually get scenarios popping between every 5 and 15 minutes.

I really hate the "blink and you miss it" leveling of most modern games. I like the pace of WAR.

I don't care how long it takes to gain a level guys, I care how I spend the time gaining it. That's why, on my played list right there on the left under my avatar, there are no asiagrinders, no EQs, no games that make you "lol only 2461 boars left until ding".

It's really this simple. I wanna have fun while leveling, and WAR promised it would deliver.

I'm not rerolling ORder because I want to play a stealthclass and I can't stand the Witchhunter, and I'm perfectly entitled to have this preference.

I'm not changing servers because I am playing on 1 of 2 German OpenRVR/Roleplaying servers, and I don't want to change to an RP normal ruleset nor to an Open RVR, the former is flooded with carebears, the latter is flooded with ganking kids. And a normal server is just un-fun, would be even LESS PvP than now, where I can get my occasional bloodsheds on some dark road to somewhere...

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edit: Speaks volumes btw that they opened up TWO german OpenRVR/RP servers, a ruleset that normally isn't that popular. There ARE too many servers!

. I read the original posters thread..

.. I disagree with you.  The leveling speed is just fine.  I have a level 17 sorceress..  I play her every day.  I also have a few level 7-13 characters on destruction (and one order).. 

I don't want a game where everyone is max level after a week.  Or.. 2.. Or a month.  I want a game that takes a while to hit max level. 

I'm also sick and tired of reading the "I want to be max level after I log in"  Which is what I"m reading.  You appear to me, as nothing more than a WoW kiddy raised in the carrot on a stick enviorment.    pardon me if I get all self rightous, but when I started playing games, the point of the game was to PLAY.. not reach cap and quit.  And remember, the leveling speed is the SAME for everybody.. so if it takes you a week to hit max.. and everyone else a year.. You'd of long since quit.. because.. you'd be playing alone.

Originally posted by markoraos 

However, Mythic is aware of this problem and in the next patch 1.02 they'll give out xp and renown buffs to underpopulated servers and factions in particular. This will certainly help as well as T3 quest xp reward increases which have already started silently appearing.

I've been thinking about this statement all day and I just can't see it helping any.  Not that the intentions are anything less than noble.

Consider how many servers there are right now.  Count how many are low/med that could use more people, how many are full and then how many look to full and could benefit from switching to a new server. 

I just don't see the xp buff helping spread populations around as there doesn't look to be enough people to fill all the servers.  To me it looks like there are just to many servers and maybe the population caps are to low on some of them. 

I agree with some of the posters here that most MMO gamers have been spoilt by WoW in terms of leveling speed and grind distraction. WoW made a good job of hiding the grind behind pretty well done quests.

In WAR if you wanna quest/PQ above your level it becomes a little desolate as you have to choose either to fly around or grind mobs/PQs.  The quests dry up at each tier so you have to fly to different tiers which breaks up the feeling of continuity.

The alternative is RvR grinding in scenarios which for most will get pretty monotonous.

I find a mix of both is the perfect balance and leveling way above the curve is extremely boring due to lack of RvR.  However this is perfect for the casual gamer.

While I'm not sure a game where people are 40 3-4 weeks after release can be called a grind, I would say that the quest system (especially for t4) wouldn't hurt from some additions since some of the PQ loot is horrendous and not worth grinding for.

Other games before had way longer grinding times but now everyone wants a fast fix and is unwilling to do boring stuff to reap the rewards and I don't blame them.

PS: Take advantage of the increased XP and reroll order next patch for those who are contemplating it.  Instant scenario Q's combined with the increased XP gain will net you very healthy levels in no time.  As order I PvPed solely to 30+ with a couple of PQs thrown in for loot and went from 1-22 in 1.5 days.  It should be even faster with the XP bonus.

Originally posted by Random_mage

. I read the original posters thread..

 

.. I disagree with you.  The leveling speed is just fine.  I have a level 17 sorceress..  I play her every day.  I also have a few level 7-13 characters on destruction (and one order).. 

I don't want a game where everyone is max level after a week.  Or.. 2.. Or a month.  I want a game that takes a while to hit max level. 

I'm also sick and tired of reading the "I want to be max level after I log in"  Which is what I"m reading.  You appear to me, as nothing more than a WoW kiddy raised in the carrot on a stick enviorment.    pardon me if I get all self rightous, but when I started playing games, the point of the game was to PLAY.. not reach cap and quit.  And remember, the leveling speed is the SAME for everybody.. so if it takes you a week to hit max.. and everyone else a year.. You'd of long since quit.. because.. you'd be playing alone.

Jesus F***** Christ look at the friggin "games played" list on the left side of this posting, you can see which games I have played for a longer period of time, and if you click on profile you can see that I'm 27 and that my post history is actually defending WAR.

And see my statement concerning leveling speed above. Btw if you'd hit max regular rank in 2 days it would still take forever to reach renown 80.