Sometime during mid day my daughter snuck on my computer while I was Afk and figured out how to kill mobs, gather and loot in the span of 10 minutes (she is four years old)

Seriously I couldn't stop laughing. She even made a cute little comment about the combat saying "Daddy I dont even fight, he does it himself and the monster dies"

She was using the click to move interface and actually figured out how to press the 1-6 keys to activate abilities.

While sitting next to my daughter I started to feel sick as she leveled my character.

To think, I spend all this time reading about MMOs, hyping them, playing them, setting up play sessions, running a guild. We all take these video games so seriously, meanwhile a small child can play the same exact games we obsess over.

guys... we make all these doom and gloom posts, we act like MMOs are life.

It took seeing my daughter playing a MMO to finally make me realize that These games really mean nothing. They are just videogames. Cute little programs to waste time in.

after about 30 minutes I turned off my computer and took my daughter to the park. I didn't touch my computer at all. There are better things to do than Harp over kiddie games like its the end of the world.

While I enjoy MMOs I think I'll be less critical of them from now on and not take them so seriously, After All I am an adult I shouldn't go so nuts over a game that a four year old can master.

My best buddy lost his wife due to MMO. Funny thing is, she left him for a guy that she met on the game. Since he was complaining alot that she was neglecting her familly and kids, she decided to leave and live alone.

Things like that should not happen and that situation is sadly more comon for the women then the guys. Guys tend to play for the loot and epic ponies while girls tend to actually live that fairy tale...

I'm glad you spent time with your own kid instead of a game. I'll probably close all my account once I have a kids as well.

Needless to say are you recruiting your daughter to join your guild?

Originally posted by Z3R01

Sometime during mid day my daughter snuck on my computer while I was Afk and figured out how to kill mobs, gather and loot in the span of 10 minutes (she is four years old)

Seriously I couldn't stop laughing. She even made a cute little comment about the combat saying "Daddy I dont even fight, he does it himself and the monster dies"

She was using the click to move interface and actually figured out how to press the 1-6 keys to activate abilities.

While sitting next to my daughter I started to feel sick as she leveled my character.

To think, I spend all this time reading about MMOs, hyping them, playing them, setting up play sessions, running a guild. We all take these video games so seriously, meanwhile a small child can play the same exact games we obsess over.

guys... we make all these doom and gloom posts, we act like MMOs are life.

It took seeing my daughter playing a MMO to finally make me realize that These games really mean nothing. They are just videogames. Cute little programs to waste time in.

after about 30 minutes I turned off my computer and took my daughter to the park. I didn't touch my computer at all. There are better things to do than Harp over kiddie games like its the end of the world.

While I enjoy MMOs I think I'll be less critical of them from now on and not take them so seriously, After All I am an adult I shouldn't go so nuts over a game that a four year old can master.

Heh, smart girl... And a bit too easy game I would say.

Originally posted by Ponico

My best buddy lost his wife due to MMO. Funny thing is, she left him for a guy that she met on the game. Since he was complaining alot that she was neglecting her familly and kids, she decided to leave and live alone.

Things like that should not happen and that situation is sadly more comon for the women then the guys. Guys tend to play for the loot and epic ponies while girls tend to actually live that fairy tale...

I'm glad you spent time with your own kid instead of a game. I'll probably close all my account once I have a kids as well.

Poor guy.....

To think if she would screw around with the guy she meet in a game, who wouldn't she screw?

Better that she left, I know a few women like that they screw every dick that points in there direction while living an alternete life with a husband and children.

It makes me sick.

Originally posted by Z3R01

 

Sometime during mid day my daughter snuck on my computer while I was Afk and figured out how to kill mobs, gather and loot in the span of 10 minutes (she is four years old)

Seriously I couldn't stop laughing. She even made a cute little comment about the combat saying "Daddy I dont even fight, he does it himself and the monster dies"

She was using the click to move interface and actually figured out how to press the 1-6 keys to activate abilities.

While sitting next to my daughter I started to feel sick as she leveled my character.

To think, I spend all this time reading about MMOs, hyping them, playing them, setting up play sessions, running a guild. We all take these video games so seriously, meanwhile a small child can play the same exact games we obsess over.

guys... we make all these doom and gloom posts, we act like MMOs are life.

It took seeing my daughter playing a MMO to finally make me realize that These games really mean nothing. They are just videogames. Cute little programs to waste time in.

after about 30 minutes I turned off my computer and took my daughter to the park. I didn't touch my computer at all. There are better things to do than Harp over kiddie games like its the end of the world.

While I enjoy MMOs I think I'll be less critical of them from now on and not take them so seriously, After All I am an adult I shouldn't go so nuts over a game that a four year old can master.

MMO's are the life of the companies that build them

I too have been attempting to reduce the time i spend on mmo's.

I had a sad story too but the ending was happy.

At the time my wife and I were not doing so well.  I was playing WOW at the time and i unfortunately had the ear of a lady on vent and it became more than just paling around. When i had seperated form my wife the lady and I had an affair ( worst mistake i ever made). I eventually came to my senses broke it off with the lady and was lucky my wife loved me that much to forgive my transgressions.  I hurt not only my wife but the lady who  wanted to be with me.

My wife and I are doing so much better and I have since gotten counseling.

To the OP: outstanding post.

I dont let my daughter play games alot and i try to do alot more things with her too! :)

yes games are just games, not real life, but games are not "kiddie" toys. GTFO

Well my niece, she is 3 years and a few months can play WOW a little, whith some help from her father. She loves to kill wolfs and it's great because thanks to that she is not afraid of wolfs anymore.

But from that, to say a 4yo can master the game.. it's a long shot.

On the other hand, there are kids that are awsome at playing an instrument, should we laugh at instruments and leave them because of that?

A 4 years old can also play chess if you teach him how each piece moves. They can also do basic math like 2+3=5. But they can't play real chess nor solve advanced equations, so I don't see much sense in what you're talking about. And yes, games are just games, but they're considered worthless because that's what the majority thinks. Just like being a famous singer is considered a big thing (simply because the majority thinks so). If you can't make your own values then I'm sorry. I'm not saying that the guy who lost his wife because of an MMO was smart, but just saying that games are "just games" because.. well because they simply are, and saying that in a negative way lacks sense to me. I myself hold more respect for Vladimir Kramnik than for Freud or Einstein (even somewhat being a physicist myself). People should value more their wifes because a wife (usualy) lasts more than a MMO and offers you more (entertainment, warmth, comfort, support, etc) and not just because your wife is a rational living organism and a MMO is purely code.

Originally posted by Consensus

yes games are just games, not real life, but games are not "kiddie" toys. GTFO

Its ok don't be all butthurt by my comment.

I play Kiddie games aswell.

Originally posted by Consensus

yes games are just games, not real life, but games are not "kiddie" toys. GTFO

lol, what a dick. All the OP is saying is people shouldn't take games so seriously. Seeing as they can actually be somewhat played by little kids. Toontown wasn't made for adults, lol. My 6 year old cousin plays toon town all the time.

Alright, well I agree they are just games. Games are games. When you look at a game you see it as being a waste of time. 80% of games are a waste of time. All you are doing is playing something to be better than someone else. I guess realitiy is that's the way the world works though as well. The other 20% of games you're playing to sell accounts, sell gold, etc.... because it's very doable, such as Second Life which I guess is considered a game? You can sell properties etc.. on it. All in all mmorpgs are a waste of time when you look at it from a real point of view. Games are so much fun. They are great to waste time in and sometimes can become profitable. But for the regular gamer are just a waste of time.

Also sadly, we are in the day and age where half of the gamers take these games way too seriously. They hop on, skip school to be the best, ruin their relationships with family, just to be the best on a GAME. People don't realize it is just a game. They treat it like real life. I consider to be a hobby. Sometimes, I spend up to 8 hours a day on the game when I have that time but it's still just another form of entertainment for me. Some people treat it like life and are WAY TOO SERIOUS on these mmorpg's. Those are the people I can't even stand to talk to in Ventrilo etc....I refuse to play with guys who act like it's life or death on the game.  It's about having fun and joking around and doing what you have to do to get better in the game. If it involves getting gear and being in a big group and playing serious, fine. But don't act like a dick to eveyone because you treat this like your life.

I really like this post.

Being a fairly new father (my daughter is 7 months old) I have noticed the exact same thing.

I still want to take these MMO's seriously, and talk about em, strategies or w/e...but lately I find it harder and harder to even make myself log on.

its like...either play some games....or actually spend time helping another life grow and develop..it might seem obvious..."well spend time with your kid dumbass" but sadly this concept of spending time with your kids over gaming is really popular. In fact morre and more parents are caught, spending more time on games then their children, and sadly some children even have died.

We need to worry about raising our children, working hard to help our economy, and get outside.

Then MAYBE at then end of the day, a little 1-2 hour MMO session

I don't think the OP was claiming all games are kiddie games or wastes of time so much as stating he has found a new perspective on his relationship to those games. As a father, I think it is pretty neat to read a story like this and it's refreshing to not read a post bashing WoW, WAR, AoC, etc, etc. When my daughter starts looking at computer games as a form of entertainment, I am sure my perspective will be altered as well.

Ultimately, people will have "eureka moments" throughout their life. Sometimes, something strikes you in just such a way that you feel compelled to share your experience. Isn't that, at least in part, a function that pulic forums facilitate?

Suuuuuuuure a 4 years old can play a MMO. Tell us at least what MMO it was...because judging from your avatar it seems you really like EVE. And if you are trying to make me believe she learned how to play EVE than no way on earth I believe you.

What game did she play?

Another thing, if she played a low lvl character, then of course she didnt have any problem. You know most of the time you start with 1 ability with a number 1 on it and all you got to do is press that buton to kill things....woooohooo. My cat could do it. Saying a kid can >>> master <<< it is way over the top exagerated. Either way, MMO are like a book, its to get away from the reality. Doesnt have anything to do with how easy it is or not. Its like adults reading harry poter... because there is plenty and its a kid book.

bah w/e

Originally posted by Daedrick

Suuuuuuuure a 4 years old can play a MMO. Tell us at least what MMO it was...because judging from your avatar it seems you really like EVE. And if you are trying to make me believe she learned how to play EVE than no way on earth I believe you.

What game did she play?

Another thing, if she played a low lvl character, then of course she didnt have any problem. You know most of the time you start with 1 ability with a number 1 on it and all you got to do is press that buton to kill things....woooohooo. My cat could do it. Saying a kid can >>> master <<< it is way over the top exagerated. Either way, MMO are like a book, its to get away from the reality. Doesnt have anything to do with how easy it is or not. Its like adults reading harry poter... because there is plenty and its a kid book.

 

bah w/e

You are young.... Perhaps one day you'll appreciate a post like this.

OP, This was a good post, glad to have read it.

I have a few things i've been thinking about, now that I have a full time job and a girl that wants to spend the rest of her life with me... family to consider here in a few more years...

These ganes will be fun, but at some point it will have to change.

But don't worry, i'll probably be back in full force when I hit retirement.

Remember, games seem to help prevent alzheimer's disease :)

Originally posted by Z3R01

 

Sometime during mid day my daughter snuck on my computer while I was Afk and figured out how to kill mobs, gather and loot in the span of 10 minutes (she is four years old)

Seriously I couldn't stop laughing. She even made a cute little comment about the combat saying "Daddy I dont even fight, he does it himself and the monster dies"

She was using the click to move interface and actually figured out how to press the 1-6 keys to activate abilities.

While sitting next to my daughter I started to feel sick as she leveled my character.

To think, I spend all this time reading about MMOs, hyping them, playing them, setting up play sessions, running a guild. We all take these video games so seriously, meanwhile a small child can play the same exact games we obsess over.

guys... we make all these doom and gloom posts, we act like MMOs are life.

It took seeing my daughter playing a MMO to finally make me realize that These games really mean nothing. They are just videogames. Cute little programs to waste time in.

after about 30 minutes I turned off my computer and took my daughter to the park. I didn't touch my computer at all. There are better things to do than Harp over kiddie games like its the end of the world.

While I enjoy MMOs I think I'll be less critical of them from now on and not take them so seriously, After All I am an adult I shouldn't go so nuts over a game that a four year old can master.

 

 

 

The sad part is that in 2 or 3 months she could probably run a guild too.  I watched a 7 old girl type a 5 line text message to her friend the other day inside of 45 seconds, from her cell phone.  Kids are growing up with this stuff all around them, its no wonder they can master it so quickly.  Teach her HTML and ASP and PHP now while she can learn it and remember it the rest of her life!
 

Originally posted by Daedrick

Suuuuuuuure a 4 years old can play a MMO. Tell us at least what MMO it was...because judging from your avatar it seems you really like EVE. And if you are trying to make me believe she learned how to play EVE than no way on earth I believe you.

What game did she play?

Another thing, if she played a low lvl character, then of course she didnt have any problem. You know most of the time you start with 1 ability with a number 1 on it and all you got to do is press that buton to kill things....woooohooo. My cat could do it. Saying a kid can >>> master <<< it is way over the top exagerated. Either way, MMO are like a book, its to get away from the reality. Doesnt have anything to do with how easy it is or not. Its like adults reading harry poter... because there is plenty and its a kid book.

 

bah w/e

Well of course It wasn't Eve. You really didnt get the point of my post did you?

read it a few more times

LOL! As a new dad myself, I feel ya man. I had the same kinda thing go on. But I took my little girl to show me that the game will be here when I get back. I'll still be lvl 12 going on 80... Oh god! Were not finally growing up are we??? (And for the record, no I am not)