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tillamook

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10/06/08 6:28:56 PM#51
Originally posted by trancejeremy

Heh, it would be pretty funny if it turned out to be a Willow MMORPG.

 

Because that picture I linked has Willow all over it, and Willow has been "the industries worst kept secret" as well as "highly anticipated" 

Hugolin

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10/06/08 6:29:30 PM#52

yayyy another sw mmorpg

lets see if this one works..i hope so

peaceandlove

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10/06/08 6:31:11 PM#53
Originally posted by EbenEmael
Originally posted by peaceandlove
Originally posted by EbenEmael
Originally posted by peaceandlove

I'm not even going to follow this game. It will be a linear and level-based theme park.

If you expect more than that, then you are fooling yourself.

No one other than the developers know what the game will be like. Your statement is a bit premature.


 

We'll see. Hope it turns out to be what you want in a game. I'll pass though, not my style.

I just find it funny that the game has not been officially announced and no specs released yet some people have already condemned it.

I'll "officially" condemn it when it is "officially" announced. Fair?

Anyways, I already put too much time into this topic. Sandbox or GTFO! lol
 

singsofdeath

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10/06/08 6:31:24 PM#54
Originally posted by tillamook
Originally posted by trancejeremy

Heh, it would be pretty funny if it turned out to be a Willow MMORPG.

 

Because that picture I linked has Willow all over it, and Willow has been "the industries worst kept secret" as well as "highly anticipated" 

 

True...Willow is not very likely. Now Indiana Jones on the other hand....

 

PS: J/K ^^

EbenEmael

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10/06/08 6:34:55 PM#55
Originally posted by peaceandlove
Originally posted by EbenEmael
Originally posted by peaceandlove
Originally posted by EbenEmael
Originally posted by peaceandlove

I'm not even going to follow this game. It will be a linear and level-based theme park.

If you expect more than that, then you are fooling yourself.

No one other than the developers know what the game will be like. Your statement is a bit premature.


 

We'll see. Hope it turns out to be what you want in a game. I'll pass though, not my style.

I just find it funny that the game has not been officially announced and no specs released yet some people have already condemned it.

I'll "officially" condemn it when it is "officially" announced. Fair?

Anyways, I already put too much time into this topic. Sandbox or GTFO! lol
 

No it is not fair. Since not even the subject matter of the game has been officially announced the only thing that you can base your decision not to play it on is rumor. Very short sighted.

WRyan

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10/06/08 6:36:49 PM#56
Originally posted by Darth_Pete
Originally posted by wjrasmussen
Originally posted by Darth_Pete
Originally posted by wjrasmussen

What if this ends up not being a star wars mmorpg?

Or worse, set in a certain period in the timeline that people don't want?

I hope it is a star wars mmorpg and that it set similar to KOTOR.  Can't wait...........................

 

I'm guessing alot of pissed off fans

What do you mean worse if certain period of time that people don't want? I bet people are more pissed if it isn't Star Wars MMO.


 

Worse. How about star wars mmorpg based of the Ewoks Christmas Special?! *puke*

I love those furrballs

No seriously. No one will ever make ewok MMO! No one can be that stupid .. can they?


 

Well... the Force Unleashed was almost a Wookiee adventure.  Wookiees are cool and all, but not something I would stake my company's "Next Gen Gaming" reputation on.  Not to mention what has happened to SWG... I would say that it is highly possible for someone to be so stupid.

Star Wars has reached a point where the marketers and powers that be have seen evidence that people will buy anything with the Star Wars label attached to it.  History has shown this quite abundantly.  The problem with that is that they really lose touch with the value of the lore.  So, it basically falls true in the theory that more is less.

What happened to Star Trek will eventually happen to Star Wars, where merchandising and abuse of the IP will eventually take it's toll on the value of the property.  This happens to all huge fan based IP's like Superman, Batman, Rocky... it starts to lose it's flare and eventually must be rebooted somehow.

Thankfully, Star Trek is about to be revitalized with the new Movie (that looks promising) and MMO (that could suck, but will probably be about as good as City of Heroes.)  So, there is hope that something could come along and revitalize Star Wars, like KOTOR did with the franchise in games.  Still... Jedi Knight was an excellent series, so it hadn't lost all hope.

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10/06/08 7:38:06 PM#57
Originally posted by cerebrix

 yay, the release of another long anticipated level based game.

 

im sorry but i cant care anymore.  after playing the joy that was a skill based star wars sandbox mmo i dont think any star wars design is going to be as successful.  especially after the disasters that were episodes 1-3 and the clone wars animated movie.

 

star wars is a dying franchise.  they need a full reboot, or they need to let it go.  too many bad ip management decisions in a row from lucas.  i just dont see how in this economy and market can handle another level based mmo or how it is going to survive the wow and eq comparisons that will go right along with that design.  people will argue the differences, but its still going to be wack a mole with math.  thats the main basis for that design. 

 

Iets face it, since swg was announced there hasnt been a star wars release of any kind that was worth a damn.  not movies, not books, not animated shows.  not anything.  hell the best star wars content any of us has seen in the last 5 years was triumph making fun of what "hardcore" fans it has level.  and seriously.....   look at those people...

 

george lucas needs to retire this franchise and move on to something else.  he lost touch with his fanbase years ago.

 

I just cant help but see this mmo as a super expensive misuse of investor dollars in a time people cant really afford to back irresponsible projects.

p.s.

if its level based, its going to get wow comparisons no matter who made it.  theres only so much you can do with that design.  and its been done to death for what, 14 years now in the online space?  theres no escaping that.

the only thing i read out of this post is that you hate MMORPG's and you hate Star Wars, maybe you should look into another form of entertainment.

 

personally i enjoyed episodes 1-3, sure there were annoying things with them, but i definitely felt that they had a good Star Wars feel to them. most Star Wars games i've tried over the past few years have sucked, but the Force Unleashed is a lot of fun and a well made game.

and as far as SW books...the Legacy of the Force series was EXCELLENT! the ending was a little bit of a let down, mainly just because i wanted more, felt like they skimped on the ending a bit, but on the series as a whole it was a very entertaining series. and then you have the Republic Commando series, Hard Contact is decent, but Triple Zero and True Colors are very good--haven't gotten the latest one yet.

 

as far as this game goes, i can't really say whether i'm excited about it or not, because there isn't much info out about it--mostly just rumors. does it matter if it's a level based game or a sandbox? no, not really--what matters most is whether it's fun or not (although i wouldn't be surprised if i still compare it to pre-CU SWG).

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10/06/08 7:53:04 PM#58

I cant wait anymore! :D  Hopefully it is  SW MMO. ^^

Made this fanvid some time ago, when the first KOTOR MMO "confirmation" leaked:

www.youtube.com/watch

peaceandlove

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10/06/08 7:56:57 PM#59
Originally posted by EbenEmael
Originally posted by peaceandlove
Originally posted by EbenEmael
Originally posted by peaceandlove
Originally posted by EbenEmael
Originally posted by peaceandlove

I'm not even going to follow this game. It will be a linear and level-based theme park.

If you expect more than that, then you are fooling yourself.

No one other than the developers know what the game will be like. Your statement is a bit premature.


 

We'll see. Hope it turns out to be what you want in a game. I'll pass though, not my style.

I just find it funny that the game has not been officially announced and no specs released yet some people have already condemned it.

I'll "officially" condemn it when it is "officially" announced. Fair?

Anyways, I already put too much time into this topic. Sandbox or GTFO! lol
 

No it is not fair. Since not even the subject matter of the game has been officially announced the only thing that you can base your decision not to play it on is rumor. Very short sighted.


 

I tell you what, and I'm serious. If they develope a game that is a sandbox, i.g. EvE, Pre-CU. I'll buy you your copy. Seriously, e-mail me because I'll forget and I will take care of it.

trancejeremy

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10/06/08 8:24:55 PM#60
Originally posted by tillamook
Originally posted by trancejeremy

Heh, it would be pretty funny if it turned out to be a Willow MMORPG.

 

Because that picture I linked has Willow all over it, and Willow has been "the industries worst kept secret" as well as "highly anticipated" 

 

All the more reason it would be funny

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tillamook

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10/06/08 8:37:34 PM#61
Originally posted by trancejeremy
Originally posted by tillamook
Originally posted by trancejeremy

Heh, it would be pretty funny if it turned out to be a Willow MMORPG.

 

Because that picture I linked has Willow all over it, and Willow has been "the industries worst kept secret" as well as "highly anticipated" 

 

All the more reason it would be funny

 

Be even more (not) funny if it was Go Bots or some shit like they joked about, but then again the world would come to halt and millions would jump the fuck off it.

Wharmaster

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PRE-CU STILL LIVES!

10/06/08 8:42:12 PM#62
Originally posted by peaceandlove
Originally posted by EbenEmael
Originally posted by peaceandlove
Originally posted by EbenEmael
Originally posted by peaceandlove
Originally posted by EbenEmael
Originally posted by peaceandlove

I'm not even going to follow this game. It will be a linear and level-based theme park.

If you expect more than that, then you are fooling yourself.

No one other than the developers know what the game will be like. Your statement is a bit premature.


 

We'll see. Hope it turns out to be what you want in a game. I'll pass though, not my style.

I just find it funny that the game has not been officially announced and no specs released yet some people have already condemned it.

I'll "officially" condemn it when it is "officially" announced. Fair?

Anyways, I already put too much time into this topic. Sandbox or GTFO! lol
 

No it is not fair. Since not even the subject matter of the game has been officially announced the only thing that you can base your decision not to play it on is rumor. Very short sighted.


 

I tell you what, and I'm serious. If they develope a game that is a sandbox, i.g. EvE, Pre-CU. I'll buy you your copy. Seriously, e-mail me because I'll forget and I will take care of it.

Sadly, a KOTOR mmo would NOT be a sandbox. We have to look to pre-cu SWG for that.

It has already been stated that this project would be a story-driven experience. Expect lots of well-written quests, with a "main quest" that doesn't have you saving the galaxy, but doing something significant regardless.

They have already mentioned that a sandbox game would be detrimental to what they want to achieve.

So...although I too am a fan of sand-box style games, we will not see that in a KOTOR game. Expect instead...KOTOR...with other people.

Just as good, in it's own way.

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singsofdeath

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10/06/08 8:46:12 PM#63
Originally posted by Wharmaster
Originally posted by peaceandlove
Originally posted by EbenEmael
Originally posted by peaceandlove
Originally posted by EbenEmael
Originally posted by peaceandlove
Originally posted by EbenEmael
Originally posted by peaceandlove

I'm not even going to follow this game. It will be a linear and level-based theme park.

If you expect more than that, then you are fooling yourself.

No one other than the developers know what the game will be like. Your statement is a bit premature.


 

We'll see. Hope it turns out to be what you want in a game. I'll pass though, not my style.

I just find it funny that the game has not been officially announced and no specs released yet some people have already condemned it.

I'll "officially" condemn it when it is "officially" announced. Fair?

Anyways, I already put too much time into this topic. Sandbox or GTFO! lol
 

No it is not fair. Since not even the subject matter of the game has been officially announced the only thing that you can base your decision not to play it on is rumor. Very short sighted.


 

I tell you what, and I'm serious. If they develope a game that is a sandbox, i.g. EvE, Pre-CU. I'll buy you your copy. Seriously, e-mail me because I'll forget and I will take care of it.

Sadly, a KOTOR mmo would NOT be a sandbox. We have to look to pre-cu SWG for that.

It has already been stated that this project would be a story-driven experience. Expect lots of well-written quests, with a "main quest" that doesn't have you saving the galaxy, but doing something significant regardless.

They have already mentioned that a sandbox game would be detrimental to what they want to achieve.

So...although I too am a fan of sand-box style games, we will not see that in a KOTOR game. Expect instead...KOTOR...with other people.

Just as good, in it's own way.

 

That is what I really hope for. I've yet to see really good storytelling in an MMO and I hope BioWare can provide that. Quests that actually make me want to read through them. A story that has meaning without being too cliché. And above all, a chance to have your actions and choices have an impact on the storyline and your character!

Yunbei

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10/06/08 8:56:50 PM#64

I must say I would be deeply let down if it were anything else than a KOTOR MMO. I hope.

Scalebane

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10/06/08 8:58:25 PM#65

Seriously, what people should do now is overhype this game into epic proportions, imagining all this super awesome stuff to come from this game, so that way (once again) when they start testing/playing it they can be dissapointed with it and complain on the forums because it wasn't what they imagined!

We are all ignorant until truth is revealed to us.. However.. How do we know the truth is not in fact a lie..

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tillamook

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10/06/08 9:10:15 PM#66
Originally posted by Scalebane

Seriously, what people should do now is overhype this game into epic proportions, imagining all this super awesome stuff to come from this game, so that way (once again) when they start testing/playing it they can be dissapointed with it and complain on the forums because it wasn't what they imagined!


Ok  I'll bite, I don't think anyone expects it to save the world, sure there will be a few die hards who would be angry, but most of the real vets don't even give a shit tbh or expect it to change the face of MMOs. It it does then coolio.

Scalebane

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10/06/08 9:13:54 PM#67

who's trolling, i want the game to succeed but seems the morons on these forums can't stop themselves from turning things into something they wont be.  So i figured i'd try to discourge it by bringing it up right away.  No worries though, i understand how people think here..as in everything is a troll post.

We are all ignorant until truth is revealed to us.. However.. How do we know the truth is not in fact a lie..

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10/06/08 9:15:14 PM#68
Originally posted by Scalebane

who's trolling, i want the game to succeed but seems the morons on these forums can't stop themselves from turning things into something they wont be.  So i figured i'd try to discourge it by bringing it up right away.  No worries though, i understand how people think here..as in everything is a troll post.

 

naw, just figured it was another troll post. Eitherway I doubt it will be like pre-cu SWG, but I wouldn't complain if they added some fo those elements to it.

miagisan

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10/06/08 9:36:13 PM#69

all i need to have a great mmorpg, would be a built in space aspect from launch, star wars, and blasters, and i be happy

Alindale

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10/06/08 9:38:10 PM#70

Bioware's SW experience is with KotOR so the chances are high that is what it is, but still it is speculation.  Wouldn't matter to me what era of SW the game was about, as long as it is sandbox, which is not Bioware's style.  Bioware loves indept immersion quests that follow well thought out story lines, so again, strong possibility of that style of game.  I look forward to trying the game, but will hold off judging it untill I can actually play it for myself.

I am still apprehensive about the game as it is being developed by the Bioware Austin division and they have hired several SOE VP's, developers, etc from SOE Austin.  I only hope they are not the people who were involved with some of SOE's questionable acts with SWG. *EDIT* forgot to add the "not" in that last sentence.

All in all, I look forward to what they release on the 21st and look forward to the future release of the game.  If the game costs $50 then it is worth it to me to at least try it out as I have always liked Bioware's NWN series and I am a childhood fan of the original Star Wars movies (the Episodes were okay).

efefia

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10/06/08 9:42:34 PM#71
Originally posted by Alindale

Bioware's SW experience is with KotOR so the chances are high that is what it is, but still it is speculation.  Wouldn't matter to me what era of SW the game was about, as long as it is sandbox, which is not Bioware's style.  Bioware loves indept immersion quests that follow well thought out story lines, so again, strong possibility of that style of game.  I look forward to trying the game, but will hold off judging it untill I can actually play it for myself.

I am still apprehensive about the game as it is being developed by the Bioware Austin division and they have hired several SOE VP's, developers, etc from SOE Austin.  I only hope they are the people who were involved with some of SOE's questionable acts with SWG. 

All in all, I look forward to what they release on the 21st and look forward to the future release of the game.  If the game costs $50 then it is worth it to me to at least try it out as I have always liked Bioware's NWN series and I am a childhood fan of the original Star Wars movies (the Episodes were okay).


 

BioWare Edmonton isn't making the MMO, BioWare Austin is, which is filled with ex-SWG(pre-cu) and UO devs. I wouldn't write it off just yet

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Alindale

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10/06/08 9:55:39 PM#72
Originally posted by efefia
Originally posted by Alindale

Bioware's SW experience is with KotOR so the chances are high that is what it is, but still it is speculation.  Wouldn't matter to me what era of SW the game was about, as long as it is sandbox, which is not Bioware's style.  Bioware loves indept immersion quests that follow well thought out story lines, so again, strong possibility of that style of game.  I look forward to trying the game, but will hold off judging it untill I can actually play it for myself.

I am still apprehensive about the game as it is being developed by the Bioware Austin division and they have hired several SOE VP's, developers, etc from SOE Austin.  I only hope they are the people who were involved with some of SOE's questionable acts with SWG. 

All in all, I look forward to what they release on the 21st and look forward to the future release of the game.  If the game costs $50 then it is worth it to me to at least try it out as I have always liked Bioware's NWN series and I am a childhood fan of the original Star Wars movies (the Episodes were okay).


 

BioWare Edmonton isn't making the MMO, BioWare Austin is, which is filled with ex-SWG(pre-cu) and UO devs. I wouldn't write it off just yet


 

Yep, and that is what I am afraid of.  I noticed I didn't add a "not" after "I only hope they are (insert the "not" here) the people who were involved with some of SOE's questionable acts with SWG."  I corrected that in my earlier post.  I hope the people they hired were the ones that made Pre-NGE worth playing and not the, well, others....

efefia

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10/06/08 9:58:29 PM#73
Originally posted by Alindale


 

Yep, and that is what I am afraid of.  I noticed I didn't add a "not" after "I only hope they are (insert the "not" here) the people who were involved with some of SOE's questionable acts with SWG."  I corrected that in my earlier post.  I hope the people they hired were the ones that made Pre-NGE worth playing and not the, well, others....


 

Aye, they're all from the first 2 dev teams, so like alpha-launch-publish 9, we're in good hands

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10/06/08 9:59:57 PM#74

efefia is a sexy beast...that is all

heheheh....heya bud

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10/06/08 10:20:18 PM#75
Originally posted by efefia
Originally posted by Alindale


 

Yep, and that is what I am afraid of.  I noticed I didn't add a "not" after "I only hope they are (insert the "not" here) the people who were involved with some of SOE's questionable acts with SWG."  I corrected that in my earlier post.  I hope the people they hired were the ones that made Pre-NGE worth playing and not the, well, others....


 

Aye, they're all from the first 2 dev teams, so like alpha-launch-publish 9, we're in good hands


 

If that is true, then I might be in love with Bioware Austin, don't tell my wife, she gets jealous easy.

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