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singsofdeath 10/05/08 9:33:03 PM
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Originally posted by altairzq
Yes, but how? In my understanding, Hardware-Testing is basically running the game and doing specific tasks designed to stress the hardware in certain areas to get feedback from the testers on performance and the like (in form of reports and logs), while play-testing is testing game-mechanics and the like. However, both are done "In-Game" as in, the game-client is actually running and you "play" for lack of a better word.
However from quotes and statements it seems like the external "hardware-Testers" do not get to -play- the game yet. So I'm confused. Do they just have a program that determines their system and how well it theoretically would run DF? Or do they actually have the client and run around in the world? Or what? |
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flakmonky 10/05/08 10:19:55 PM
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From what I gather, the dev team has designed a new server technology and that is what they are currently testing in the beta. The game will not be up at all times, nor will testers be spending much time in game. Also, this would be the time that the devs are hoping to weed out many bugs in the programming. If my analogy is correct, play-testing is supposed to be a time when players play the best they can and the devs look for overpowered skills that they never thought to use in the OP way the players are using them. |
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Morrdread 10/05/08 10:46:27 PM
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Originally posted by altairzq
Hmmm no wait, I will keep believing Tasos for the next 6 years. These guys are learning how to develope an MMO. If they can produce a half assed game they will be really happy, they will have learned a lot and can think of working in a real company with some experience. Oh... sorry I forgot Darkfall is going to be the best game ever. Just forget what I said.
Your an obvious troll, just gtfo. You have 0 faith in the game and do nothing but try to shoot down the community. do you really have nothing else to do with your time then troll the boards of a game you dont even like? maybe you should get a better hobby, or more time consuming one at that.
Darkfall is in closed Beta. the game is real, the game is coming out this year, and i hope you fall down 3 stairs for your insolence. |
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alcapwnyou 10/05/08 10:51:31 PM
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Originally posted by Morrdread
Your an obvious troll, just gtfo. You have 0 faith in the game and do nothing but try to shoot down the community. do you really have nothing else to do with your time then troll the boards of a game you dont even like? maybe you should get a better hobby, or more time consuming one at that.
Darkfall is in closed Beta. the game is real, the game is coming out this year, and i hope you fall down 3 stairs for your insolence.
I want this game to come out this year. But i highly doubt it., since closed beta hasn't even started yet. And i mean like hard playing closed beta. Not technical and server stuff. |
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flakmonky 10/05/08 10:57:16 PM
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Originally posted by alcapwnyou
Non-technical is in "closed" beta. Technical is in "open" beta. Note: "Open" beta does not nesseccarily mean that anyone who wants to can participate. It is a limited number. The devs have been using proffessional testers for roughly one year now, which is a "closed" beta. |
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alcapwnyou 10/05/08 11:01:31 PM
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Originally posted by flakmonky
Non-technical is in "closed" beta. Technical is in "open" beta. Note: "Open" beta does not nesseccarily mean that anyone who wants to can participate. It is a limited number. The devs have been using proffessional testers for roughly one year now, which is a "closed" beta. Oh, well ok. Ive never really known what takes place in which phase of testing. The only basis of my last post is what ive read from other posts in different threads. But i still dont think that the game will be ready in 4 months. Just a feeling. |
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Morrdread 10/05/08 11:05:30 PM
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Originally posted by singsofdeath The quotes that were brought up earlier are just as "official" as the ones you allude to. Just to make that clear. It's official Aventurine employees speaking about their game. Nothing "unofficial" about them.
Pushing a game back to have a better game is a good thing sometimes, it also depends however on how you do it. And there is no "we aim to" and "we hope" in many of Tasos statements that the game is nearly feature complete and has been for the past 5 years.
If they spent 5 years on polishing the game, superb, excellent and we shall see when it comes out. I have no qualms with DF, I don't hate it, but what I do hate is the obnoxious way the supporters put down any possible bad thing about the game as a) irrelevant or b) unfounded. It is much the same way as the obnoxious haters continue to claim the game is vapor-ware and whatnot, just the other side of the medal.
We are all ignorant? We only look for things to be skeptical? If I weren't this interested in the game, I would not bother to point out worries and possible problems with the game. I would ot bother to read through Tasos interviews and through all the developer quotes. Fact is, some people believe the man, some people don't believe everything. Who's to say who is right hm?
The only way we will find out is when the game releases and we can test it. No matter how recent your quotes, no matter how much you try to make quotes from the past be "unimportant", that is a fact. Supposedly we have a beta soon and a release this year. I'll keep DF to that promise and wait for the game to pass final judgement. But to put down every possible flaw or problem or discrepancy as irrelevant is just plain silly, just as silly as to point and yell Vaporware anytime a thread about DF pops up.
this just further points out your ignorence. 5 year old outdated quotes about an outdated version of the game itself and nothing but vauge statements, hold just as much merit and are just as official as this years statements about an entirely differnt darkfall all togather? How is it you do not understand that everything the devs have ever said in the earlier years was said very carefully to keep as vauge as possible with no promises attatched? You dont seem like your stupid, so im sure if youve read them yourself you could point out exactly how undescriptive and uninformative everything they have said was. THEY PROMISED NOTHING AND LIED ABOUT NOTHING! They had clan beta signups for an entirely differnt darkfall then todays. They scraped that build and started over. how is that so hard to grasp? This is the darkfall they wanted from the start, the darkfall that technology wouldnt let exist at the time of thier old project. I honestly doubt you have any hopes of this game being successful considering you have never said 1 positive thing about it. you speak like your of neutrallity and of both extreams being wrong while the entire time you seem to always be on one side. your hypocracy is very clear. Its obvious some people will just not see the glass half full, and will have to wait for open beta to make sure the evil devs arnt pulling a fast one!! So when it comes, and it will come soon, i'll gladly come back to these forums to see everyone spouting "i told you so!" wether its the fanbase saying it to the haters, or the haters saying it to the fanbase, I guess all we can do is wait and see. |
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Morrdread 10/05/08 11:12:12 PM
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Originally posted by alcapwnyou Oh, well ok. Ive never really known what takes place in which phase of testing. The only basis of my last post is what ive read from other posts in different threads. But i still dont think that the game will be ready in 4 months. Just a feeling.
Closed beta has been goin on for quite a while with paid inhouse testers. They are actually doing things right as opposed to all these other company who let random idiots in that contribute about 1/10 of what a paid tester can do. sure you have a few good beta testers who actually go out of thier way to help the game, but the gap between serious testers compared to random idiots is very large. this way they ensure they catch all the big stuff as soon as possible. Also id like to point out that even beta testing the game gives you an extream advantage over those who havnt and with this being such a highly competitive game im sure they wouldnt want that hence why the public closed beta testers are not playtesting. |
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