Blizzard is reported to have won $6 million in their lawsuit against MDY Industries, the makers the WoWGlider which was recently ruled to violate World of Warcraft's end user license agreement.

World of Warcraft creator Blizzard looks set to get $6m (£3.36m) from the makers of a software 'bot'.

The cash is part of a deal brokered by Blizzard and MDY Industries - the maker of the WoWGlider software 'bot.

Blizzard embarked on the case against MDY claiming that the World of Warcraft Glider software produced by the company infringed its copyright.

The Glider software lets Warcraft players automate many of the repetitive steps the game involves.

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Just what [Activision] Blizzard needs... more money.

Originally posted by redelf07

Just what [Activision] Blizzard needs... more money.

When the money comes from cheating scumbags who ruin the game experience of everybody else, I say GO GO GO BLIZZARD - MAKE 'EM PAY.

Keep in mind that even if you don't approve of WoW or Blizzard, this may very well deter the cheaters from going after other MMOs. A win win for everybody unless you're a cheater.

Originally posted by redelf07

Just what the players need....less bots.

fixed your post

Apparently the $6 million is ready for immediate payment - they've been farming a spawn on Wilshire Boulevard for the last 11 days.

Good for Blizzard.
At least they decided to take care of the bot problem.
Maybe people will actually pay more attention to the EULA now.
 

too bad, botting is the only way anyone in their right mind can endure the neverending wow grind.

I wonder if this is enough money to put them out of business. Hope so. Are they a big company?

Originally posted by KhaelSan

too bad, botting is the only way anyone in their right mind can endure the neverending wow grind.

i hope this is sarcasm..... my sarcasm-meter is giving me mixed signals.

Originally posted by tvalentine

Originally posted by KhaelSan

too bad, botting is the only way anyone in their right mind can endure the neverending wow grind.

 

i hope this is sarcasm..... my sarcasm-meter is giving me mixed signals.

I don't think it was sarcasm.
Questing is not grinding...
if you ARE just grinding mobs, you're just ridiculous in a quest based game.
You can blow through WoW easily by questing.

You should pick up a Hack n' Slash game.
 

Am I the only one that sees Blizzard lost in this case.  What they have done is put a value on virtual properties.  Wether their arguements were that it was used to make gold or farm items they have no bridged the gap between real world and virtual.

Now, why is this a bad thing?  Because now if they mess up and say, delete your account or ban your account and they cant prove you violated the EULA then you can now sue them for money in court.  All because they have put a monitary real world value on a virtual place.  Is this really going to stop the distribution of this program?  Doubtful.  If you can write a good enough program then you can make the money to afford the legal issues that come along with it.  More so now, if the ruling means the company can no longer distribute the program all they have to do now is make it so widely available that it gets into everyone's hands.

I just think that stopping people from botting is a much better course of action.  Also, sticking a GM in towns to catch the never ending flood of gold sellers spamming the trade chats can curtail this as well.  Final Fantasy XI has made great strides in combating RMT's and I think that WoW/Blizzard and others could take a page on combatting this evil demon from them.

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Originally posted by dalestaines1
Questing is not grinding...

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What you think a grind is?

Anything you do over and over repeatedly.

Therefore doing hundreds of quests is just a grind as grinding mobs.

Originally posted by HBlite

 

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Originally posted by dalestaines1
Questing is not grinding...

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What you think a grind is?

Anything you do over and over repeatedly.

Therefore doing hundreds of quests is just a grind as grinding mobs.
 

If you guys dont like the grind, you might as well quit ALL RPG's in general and stick with say like, sports games.

Originally posted by Suplyndmnd

Am I the only one that sees Blizzard lost in this case.  What they have done is put a value on virtual properties.  Wether their arguements were that it was used to make gold or farm items they have no bridged the gap between real world and virtual.

Now, why is this a bad thing?  Because now if they mess up and say, delete your account or ban your account and they cant prove you violated the EULA then you can now sue them for money in court.  All because they have put a monitary real world value on a virtual place.  Is this really going to stop the distribution of this program?  Doubtful.  If you can write a good enough program then you can make the money to afford the legal issues that come along with it.  More so now, if the ruling means the company can no longer distribute the program all they have to do now is make it so widely available that it gets into everyone's hands.

I just think that stopping people from botting is a much better course of action.  Also, sticking a GM in towns to catch the never ending flood of gold sellers spamming the trade chats can curtail this as well.  Final Fantasy XI has made great strides in combating RMT's and I think that WoW/Blizzard and others could take a page on combatting this evil demon from them.

Part of the argument is the bot kept players in game constantly.  This pulls the servers resources and economically through their product and hardware out of 'normal' balance.  It's also a piggy-back profit being made off of Blizzard's product.
For the ones that use the bot, the game inevitably picks up from your WTF files that you're using the product and they ban your account.  Once that's done, both Blizzard and Glider have already gotten your money from purchasing the products, so you just screw yourself...but apparently you can't buy it anymore anyway.


 

Originally posted by HBlite

 

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Originally posted by dalestaines1
Questing is not grinding...

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What you think a grind is?

Anything you do over and over repeatedly.

Therefore doing hundreds of quests is just a grind as grinding mobs.
 

With that logic, anything you play is grinding.
Questing isn't the same.  Killing goblins for hours on end is grinding.  Doing different quests is completely different and requires more than mindless slashing.

This is awesome on Blizzard's part and it evidently is made to put shockwaves out to the media that Blizzard means business about botters. Just like it did the last two years. Totally.

I enjoy and love that they're doing this, it means so much good for the rest of us, but if I learn at any time that it was an opportunistic thing that could have been done months ago if not even farther before, it is a reply to Mythic's way of publicly shaming gold-sellers/buyers. I'm not commending WAR either. Saying "Tzeentch disapproves of thou" isn't going to stop a guy named Djgheuljf from anything and if somebody bought it it's only a small chance he get's caught unless he blabs it.

Actually the most shocking part about this whole post was that the value of the US Dollar is... Starting to get worthless.

You guys dont get it.  The only way botting hurts other players is that it hurts their egos that they were dumb enough to hand level their toons to 70 when they could have been smart and had a program do it for them..in other words it just hurts their egos. 

 in every other fashion botters HELP the gamer player.  Take note the emphasis on game player and not Blizzard.Botters help you get all forms of materials at the acution house for MUCH cheaper rates.. if alot of botters go missing over this be prepared to pay alot more for those items and I do mean alot more.  Need some outrageous ridiculous amount of gold for a flying mount in the upcoming WOTLK?  Whats more valuable to you...your time or a few dollars to buy some gold and just buy the damn thing rather then spend countless mindless hours getting it yourself? You tell me.  Anyone who thinks getting carpal tunnel while grinding out 10,000 gold for a flying mount has mental issues. 

The botter helps you skip past the dull boring parts of the game and get to the meat and potatoes of it...ie the fun part for those of you feeling righteous while you grind out your gold lol.  I hope this does get rid of alot of bots on a long term basis...then you guys will see just how much easier they have made your gaming lives in WoW.   Blizzard sells it like they are helping you by getting rid of botters but the truth of it is they are simply helping themselves...the longer it takes you to get through the game content, without the assistance of botters, the more money they make.  Pure, simple truth.  Now, are you going to take the blue pill or the red pill?

Dunno about a blue pill or red pill Romne, but ill have the pill you took before typing botting helps the game.

Ask anyone whos played Final Fantasy how botting helped them. Botting made Chinese farmers sit on top of quest mobs that had to be gotten before you could complete a quest. Some of the mobs in FFXI didnt repop until 24 hours or longer. Which made a logjam so youd typically have 30 or more people sitting around in a cave trying to fight off teams of Chinese farmers who had bot programs with speed hacks. I dont know how that helps when you cant finish the quest for the exp.

It also throws the player driven ecomonies upside down by flooding the markets making things about as valuable as the U.S. dollar is now. It breeds bad blood between people who see Chinese farmers doing it, then all the Anti-asian rants start coming, shot back with all the Anti-U.S. western comments. How is that good for ANY games community? Good communties are what sells games as well.

For your first post ever, you sure picked a doozy of a position to back. Cheating.

What's next?  Advocating Ninjalooting and saying how that speeds up the game cause you can skip the Need/Greed lot.

Stay on topic my friend...I am talking about WoW botting only..not some lame game like FF XI ,  And yes botting does help the average player in WoW even if they do not bot themselves.  See all those  primals and leathers on the auction house at nice cheap rates due to extreme compettion and large amount of supply?  Well thats because of botters.   Get rid of them and all you have are the the people who watch the auction house for a living just waiting to buyout all of an item so they can resell it for 10 times the price.  You yourself have benefitted from bots if you have EVER bought anything off the AH though you may not realize it.  Furthermore, name one instance where a botter farming mobs caused any such problem in WoW like you mentiond in FF XI? You can't...because WoW isn't setup that way and botters don't care about quest mobs!  Hell most of them don't even quest they just grind, mostly in out of the way areas to stay away from rabid anti-botters such as you who just don;t get it....so again you are wrong.  Like I said before no mater what you say...as far as the player base goes I know MANY players who have bought 10,000 gold to get their elite flying mount but still pretend to hate botters when speaking with their fellow players...knowing damn well their buds did it too.  LOL   In the end for those who don't do it you have benefitted from it whether you know it or not....like paying 15 gold for a primal or some other pain in the ass item you have to farm?  Well get rid of the bots and get ready to pay 50 gold per primal or leather or whatever.  Making items cheaper on the AH BENEFITS the player base...it means you dont have to go farm it and you get it cheap!  Thats not harmful thats good for you but bad for Blizzard.  So, once again, it comes down to the self righteousness of waa waaa I played fair and my ego is hurt that this other guy did it so much easier and smarter then me.  Do not confuse what benefits Blizzard with what benefits the game player..they are two totally different things and if you can't see that then you have poor analytical skills.

heh,suckers.

Am I the only one who see this as a possitive ending for MMORPGs?

With Blizzard owning these bot creators, people will think twice now before trying to create cheating tools, hopefuly it will apply to more games.

Well, the one thing we have learned for sure is: Botting benefits lawyers.

"Good for Blizzard.
At least they decided to take care of the bot problem.
Maybe people will actually pay more attention to the EULA now."
 

hahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha

Good idea - but I *HIGHLY* doubt it. How long did this law suit take? couple YEARS? yeah... cheaters aren't even going to BLINK about this and they're going to go about thier business.

Originally posted by romne

Stay on topic my friend...I am talking about WoW botting only..not some lame game like FF XI ,  And yes botting does help the average player in WoW even if they do not bot themselves.  See all those  primals and leathers on the auction house at nice cheap rates due to extreme compettion and large amount of supply?  Well thats because of botters.   Get rid of them and all you have are the the people who watch the auction house for a living just waiting to buyout all of an item so they can resell it for 10 times the price.  You yourself have benefitted from bots if you have EVER bought anything off the AH though you may not realize it.  Furthermore, name one instance where a botter farming mobs caused any such problem in WoW like you mentiond in FF XI? You can't...because WoW isn't setup that way and botters don't care about quest mobs!  Hell most of them don't even quest they just grind, mostly in out of the way areas to stay away from rabid anti-botters such as you who just don;t get it....so again you are wrong.  Like I said before no mater what you say...as far as the player base goes I know MANY players who have bought 10,000 gold to get their elite flying mount but still pretend to hate botters when speaking with their fellow players...knowing damn well their buds did it too.  LOL   In the end for those who don't do it you have benefitted from it whether you know it or not....like paying 15 gold for a primal or some other pain in the ass item you have to farm?  Well get rid of the bots and get ready to pay 50 gold per primal or leather or whatever.  Making items cheaper on the AH BENEFITS the player base...it means you dont have to go farm it and you get it cheap!  Thats not harmful thats good for you but bad for Blizzard.  So, once again, it comes down to the self righteousness of waa waaa I played fair and my ego is hurt that this other guy did it so much easier and smarter then me.  Do not confuse what benefits Blizzard with what benefits the game player..they are two totally different things and if you can't see that then you have poor analytical skills.

You sir, win the idiot of the thread award
 

I am not one for the big posts and I really do not care who I piss off at any time of the day and I definatly do not want to be sleeping with Blizzard as no matter the fact they are still just a big gaming company and in the long haul really don't show much compassion for the small player or solo enthusiast, BUT, In all my years of gaming I have finally lived to see the day when a gaming company stood up and took the fight to the source and for once didint put full blame on the players that use the software they went to the actual person who was selling it and took it out on them.

Too bad the other gaming companies didin't do the same over the years, might have caused more of the legit players to have stayed playing and not get ran over by new players decked out in gear and items some people worked hard and felt acomplished to get.