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Smikis  9/24/08 10:17:44 AM

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well.. i imagine im not alone whos tired of ppl constantly teleporting.. would it be runner with flag stuck running in one place.. and appearing 50 yards away next second..

would it be someone you chase.. or someone you block.. and he runs around you  .. but it still shows that you blocking him till he ports..

 

and similar. yday it got kinda annoying doing t3.. scenarios. while most t3 scenarios completely blows.. when you play tank.. and you block xx from chasing item carrier.. then he just ports.. is highly annoying.. and kinda obseletes whole collision

 

oh .. its not my pc.. its not my conneciton.. im not alone whos having this..  eu servers btw..

 
Random_mage  9/24/08 10:20:05 AM

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You are correct.

I don't think it's ruining the game yet though, but the whole coalison detection system doesn't really work.  You can "block" someone, but if they keep running at you, they jump to about 30 ft past you.  Kind of silly if you ask me.

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Fariic  9/24/08 10:24:38 AM

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Originally posted by Smikis

well.. i imagine im not alone whos tired of ppl constanly teleporting.. would it be runner with flag stuck running in one place.. and apearing 50 yards away next second..

would it be someone you chase.. or someone you block.. and he runs around you  .. but it still shows that you blocking him till he ports..

 

and similar. yday it got kinda annoying doing t3.. scenarios. while most t3 scenarios completely blows.. when you play tank.. and you block xx from chasing item carier.. then he just ports.. is highly annoying.. and kinda obselete whole colision

 

oh .. its not my pc.. its not my conneciton.. im not alone whos having this..  eu servers btw..

I haven't actually experienced any bad lag while playing.  I was in troll country last night doing the Chapter 5 PQ, order side.  The PQ takes place in a quest hub with NPC, players, trolls, and eventually several destro guys all in the area with spell effects going off.  Not a bit of lag.
 

The highlighted part:  The only time I've ever seen this happen, regardless of what game I'm playing, is because someone is cheating.  People used to do it in WoW a lot untill blizzard addressed it.  Now if you shut your modem down it almost always kicks you from the server.

I honestly don't think you're describing poor optimization or lag.  It sounds a lot like someone hitting the power switch on thier modem and then turning it back on again a second or two later, and that's not a fault of the game per say, but someone cheating.

 
shukes33  9/24/08 10:25:43 AM

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that does sound like a connection problem to be honest. i havent experienced it at all in WAR but used to a lot in the early days of EQ and it was my conection and pc speed. Also had it a little in VG.

If your running at someone who ic blocking and the server does not recognise where you are, then it makes sense that you will suddenly port a portion ahead when it catches up. i imagine that is very frustrating though. Just my thoughts though.

 
huzzah  9/24/08 10:25:50 AM

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Originally posted by Random_mage

You are correct.

I don't think it's ruining the game yet though, but the whole coalison detection system doesn't really work.  You can "block" someone, but if they keep running at you, they jump to about 30 ft past you.  Kind of silly if you ask me.

 

It was my understanding that the collision detection system wasn't designed to allow you to permanently block and that if the other person continued to 'push', they would eventually be able to go through you.  This was done to prevent asshats from griefing other players by boxing them in and leaving them unable to do anything for hours (that used to happened in SWG with people placing crafting stations in front of the doors of their houses after people had entered the house - before they turned off collision detection).  Of course, I could be mis-remembering what I read about WAR's CD system and it is just hosed.

 
Krayzjoel  9/24/08 10:27:58 AM

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I havent had this problem yet, but i'll keep an eye out for it. I've have been blessed with a reletivly great experience so far.

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Smikis  9/24/08 10:33:46 AM

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Originally posted by Fariic
Originally posted by Smikis

well.. i imagine im not alone whos tired of ppl constanly teleporting.. would it be runner with flag stuck running in one place.. and apearing 50 yards away next second..

would it be someone you chase.. or someone you block.. and he runs around you  .. but it still shows that you blocking him till he ports..

 

and similar. yday it got kinda annoying doing t3.. scenarios. while most t3 scenarios completely blows.. when you play tank.. and you block xx from chasing item carier.. then he just ports.. is highly annoying.. and kinda obselete whole colision

 

oh .. its not my pc.. its not my conneciton.. im not alone whos having this..  eu servers btw..

I haven't actually experienced any bad lag while playing.  I was in troll country last night doing the Chapter 5 PQ, order side.  The PQ takes place in a quest hub with NPC, players, trolls, and eventually several destro guys all in the area with spell effects going off.  Not a bit of lag.
 

The highlighted part:  The only time I've ever seen this happen, regardless of what game I'm playing, is because someone is cheating.  People used to do it in WoW a lot untill blizzard addressed it.  Now if you shut your modem down it almost always kicks you from the server.

I honestly don't think you're describing poor optimization or lag.  It sounds a lot like someone hitting the power switch on thier modem and then turning it back on again a second or two later, and that's not a fault of the game per say, but someone cheating.

 

i know what that is.. i know ppl abused it.. there are countless guys who do that in wow pvp and so on.. not only switching.. like turning on torrents.. your speed drops dead.. yet you still linked with game

 

i must mentioned its pvp only.. i never expierenced anything like this.. well apart some teleporting npcs( when you pull ) from time to time.. but i couldnt care less about it..  .. in pve

 

i dont rly recall it in world pvp.. well probably cuz its not that small scale.. and you dont keep looking at same 1 guy.. or chasing/blocking 1 guy

its more of scenario thingie.. etc phoenix gate.. ctf.. i seen countless flag caries teleport.. we already got used it.. and we already know he will apear there and there..

its kinda sad that in pvp game you need to get used to this

 

but yday i got just pissed.. enough is enough.. im dueling 1 guy. in empire t3.. bombing run scenario.. god that scenario suxs.. dont queue for it ever please.. why its only one which is up..

so.. im dueling this guy.. battle is all around.. someone takes bomb. he runs.. my guy jumps after him.. i block him.. he ports.. oh well.. i slow next guy.. block him on bridge. he ports again.. the fact that he porst is annoying. the fact that i dont know if hes still there.. running like retard.. or miles away due laggy buggy combat system .. in game.. is whole another thing..

i feel more and more uselss in high lvls.. my dmg as swordancer is not a dps anymore..  i die way too fast.. so i could do few things.. semy dps.. semy tank.. semy block/protect lag makes half of those useless..

while fun is just fun thing like this alongside servers which cannot hold more than 2k players.. untill someone else proves servers arent running on 1k vs 1k.. gona kill this game.. no matter how brilliant it is..

 

MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER ONLINE . 2 words taken out.. and its just multiplayer.. like something as crysis..

 
Smikis  9/24/08 10:35:49 AM

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Originally posted by shukes33

that does sound like a connection problem to be honest. i havent experienced it at all in WAR but used to a lot in the early days of EQ and it was my conection and pc speed. Also had it a little in VG.

If your running at someone who ic blocking and the server does not recognise where you are, then it makes sense that you will suddenly port a portion ahead when it catches up. i imagine that is very frustrating though. Just my thoughts though.

 

did you read my post.. do i need to point where i asked not to post crap like this.. its not my connection.. its not my hardware or software .. and im not alone with this..

 
DarkPony  9/24/08 10:39:52 AM

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Happens to me occasionaly as well. Not so much 'ruining pvp' though. Minor annoyancy at best. Though I can understand if this happens all the time to someone it would be a biggie.

 
gestalt11  9/24/08 10:40:43 AM