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ghettobooste  9/22/08 9:05:57 AM

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For me, I really like the Order classes better. (though I do like my Black Orc alot, he is totoally indestructable).  But the Witch Hunter, Bright Wiz, Ironbreaker, Runepriest, Shadow Warrior all seem more fun than their counterparts.

Order seems to win more Scenarios on average as well.

The big problem is being able to buy your t2 reknown gear on the Order side.  It seems on almost every server Order is shut out from owning ANY keeps to be able to make purchases and reknown training.  And taking over a keep is a real challenge when there are 30 Destruction sitting in there, almost impossible.

 
HiGHPLaiNS  9/22/08 9:07:43 AM

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The suspense is terrible. I hope it will last.

Originally posted by syxx
Originally posted by Narshe

I'm having a great time playing Order on Pheonix Throne. It's still a struggle, but we've managed to do really well so far. Every time I log in each realm controls an almost equal amount of tier zones.. sometimes I even see more blue than red, and I have to say, it is much more rewarding to be outnumbered and manage to hold objectives and win scenarios.

I also played on Badlands as destruction, and Order was in control. I guess it depends on the guilds/server.


 

Aye its the same on Volkmar, last night i logged on to do some scenarios and order controlled the entire tier 2 rvr, even both of the keeps in Nordland/troll country... i was like wow they deserve alot of respect lol.


 

You got some Hardcore Order Guilds running on Volkmar..


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Rabenwolf  9/22/08 9:29:42 AM

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Originally posted by fedfierce

OP, my server is actually really Order dominant, you should check out Dark Crag (open RvR). We basically win 80% of the scenarios are occupy generally most of the world RvR.

 

Hope this helped.

 

Edit: Spelling :/

 

Thats funny. Im on the same server, Rank 17 and from what i have experience from the start was destruction winning about 10:1 in most scenarios. Order does average at the tier 1 scenarios but after rank 11, its mostly destruction.

The problem can be followed back to Mythic making a few bad choices. Their first bad choice was to not have the Knight of theblazing sun as a playable class at launch, as its the only tank that actually LOOKS like a tank on the side of Order. It is also the mirror of the Chosen.

Here in is the issue, Order has for the most part, very ugly classes. I cant begin to tell you how many ppl I know have rolled destruction merely because they really wouldnt be happy playing a short obese hairy dwarf, or a cone headed white skinny elf in a robe. They look at the actual bulkiness of the Chosen, with actual armor and helm that looks normal, a giant weapon and features that make a tank look like a tank.

If you want to play a tank, it better look like one, is usually how it goes. SO most scenarios I see are dominated by destruction because they have an over population of Chosens and healers like the zealot, which means even if you manage to take down one, theres 10 more ready to fill in the gap. Chosens can seem to dish out some nasty dps as well, and the key to winning scenarios is not always how many ppl you kill but rather how long you can survive.

ALready Order is at a disadvantage. I rarely see an equal number of Sword Masters to Chosen in any scenario, much less a rune priest equal to the number of zealots.

 

Order is going to rely mostly on good guilds to win, but if you are part of a PUG, you are F**ked most of the time.

 
taus01  9/22/08 9:30:34 AM

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Volkmar is very balanced and the last ime we tried to take over Tier 2 we got spanked pretty hard by Order. We finally made it in the end but it was a pretty balanced battle. Next thing you know, Order takes back the keeps the next day. It depends on the server i guess.

Order wins most of the Scenarios in T3, T1 and T2 was very balanced, maybe a bit more on the destruction side.

 
angeles2o1o  9/22/08 9:32:29 AM

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It's really very simple....

At some point there will be SO MANY Destruction players and VERY FEW Order players that the game will die.

Everyone wants to play Destruction...well that's fine...until there's not enough order players to play RvR or the scenarios that the game will just be boreing.

I play Both...I have a Destruction Sorceress & Tank and an Order Wizard & Engineer....

Your right...Destruction do own in almost every battle...but please...where's the fun in that.

Most players who picked Destruction are the ones who got there asses kicked as Empire in WoW and they want to be the Dominate ones this time.

And you know the worst part about it....

When i play PvP it's always Destruction = 90% Tanks.

Destruction has more than just one class people...are you lot so sad that you don't like taking any damage.

All i have seen since launch day is a lot of the servers full with Destruction and Medium Order.

 Anyway...Game will die if everyone keeps going Destruction...simple as that....

No one wants to play a game where thers only one side.

So...If you want to win everything without any compition play as Destruction, If you want more of a challenge and to have more fun...Play Order.

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ProfRed  9/22/08 9:35:44 AM

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Actually on both my servers Order have won more Scenarios than destruction, and on my main server Order wins more RvR objectives on a nightly basis than Destruction.  Many servers are fine.  It is the servers that are low/high that I could see being a problem.  I think they would be smart to add back in Order side classes and none for destruction.  They should be able to sway the population in little ways like that.

 
Magsato  9/22/08 9:39:24 AM

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Originally posted by angeles2o1o

It's really very simple....

At some point there will be SO MANY Destruction players and VERY FEW Order players that the game will die.

Everyone wants to play Destruction...well that's fine...until there's not enough order players to play RvR or the scenarios that the game will just be boreing.

I play Both...I have a Destruction Sorceress and an Order Wizard....

Your right...Destruction do own in almost every battle...but please...where's the fun in that.

Most players who picked Destruction are the ones who got there asses kicked as Empire in WoW and they want to be the Dominate ones this time.

And you know the worst part about it....

When i play PvP it's always Destruction = 90% Tanks and Order = 90% Casters.

Destruction has more than just one class people...

 

Anyway...Game will die if everyone keeps going Destruction...simple as that.


 

Destruction knows they have more then one class... You see Black Orcs AND Chosen...

 
BeastLordz  9/22/08 9:40:22 AM

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maybe sounds like a good idea, but then again you will have thoes people saying its unfair because Order have more classes then Destruction. Or  even alot of the Destruction will reroll Order because they made some awesome class so it ends up being Order being over populated?

 
Dragohr  9/22/08 9:43:07 AM

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So joining the winning side, getting no competition at all is better than having something to fight for and achieve?

If you blame the population, you arent really trying to solve the problem by creating a Destruction character

 
laresloci  9/22/08 9:44:28 AM