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Lobbyboy69  9/22/08 10:52:54 AM

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Originally posted by gtwhalley
Originally posted by Warmaker
Originally posted by AmazingAvery
Originally posted by celdridge

Launched in May and server merges coming in Sepyember or October. Does not look good for the steaming pile of crap that AOC is.


 

Don't merge the servers and your screwed -

Merge the servers and you get comments like yours.

Either way doesn't really effect non constructive comments like yours.

How about you let the people who pay to play the game inform FC what they think. Don't like it either way, best to move on, prancing around screaming fail isn't healthy you know.

Merging them can be good for those who have poor levels in numbers on them and I think its the right way to go forward - screaming fail and POS the game is without saying why is OOO.


 

It's a case of "Damned if you do, damned if you don't."

And TBH, I'm quite happy that Failcom is damned either way.

And we're free to rail Failcom for the drama that is AoC, especially since we had paid them money for that "game" they put out.

Agreed, I want them to go down in flames for making me pay for that pile of broken promises/garbage.


 

lol I wouldnt want them to go that far. Theres still a few people out there who enjoy playing AoC. Age of conan release has brought some good to the mmo industry and us the gamers. Never again will a Dev release a game still in Alpha stage hidden with a cloak of lies.

Am confused though....some people keep coming on here saying servers are filling up and ofc theres 440k active accounts. Surely theres no need for server merges 4 months after release.

 
Raltar  9/22/08 10:59:25 AM

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Anyone who wants to go into outer space is not playing with a full deck! (Example: Richard Garriot)

Originally posted by csthao
Originally posted by Raltar

Uh... most of the (good) MMOs I've played either went several years before merging servers or they never merged at all.

Vanguard merged servers when SoE took over about 6 months time? I really cant remember.


 

Like I said: GOOD MMOs, which Vanguard is not.

Raltar  9/22/08 11:03:24 AM

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Anyone who wants to go into outer space is not playing with a full deck! (Example: Richard Garriot)

Originally posted by Lobbyboy69

Never again will a Dev release a game still in Alpha stage hidden with a cloak of lies.


 

LOL

MMO Devs never learn. Ever heard of Shadowbane, Dark and Light or Anarchy Online? Crappy games that were buggy, unstable and nearly unplayable at launch. Yet even after those games were made... Age of Conan still got released the same way.

It WILL happen again. (If for no other reason than because some genius decided it would be a good idea to let the Shadowbane devs make another game.)

Wharg0ul  9/22/08 11:09:38 AM

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Clench all you want, it''s still going in.

I knew from day 1 there would be server merges. Interest in the game was far higher than expected at launch, of course, due to worn-out WoW players looking for another game. As a result FC opened new servers to accomodate the flood.

Once it became apparent that AoC was not that game, and once the initial flood died down, it was only a matter of time before the comparitively small percentage of remaining players were too thinly spread across the enormous server farm.

Even in Funcom had somehow managed to polish the game into what it could have been, once the launch dust settled, there would still have been fewer players left than at release, leading to less populated servers, and eventually a merge.

Instead, of course, the game got worse instead of better, and even people who had high hopes for the game, and (admittedly blind) faith in Funcom to make it better left in frustration.

Funcom needs to cut some servers, and invest the money back into the game. Maybe read some of those 200+ page protest threads, and realise that ignoring the complaints of your players is not how you keep them paying/playing.

Maybe if they do this, they won't need another server merge next year.

Wharg0ul  9/22/08 11:10:57 AM

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Clench all you want, it''s still going in.

Originally posted by Raltar
Originally posted by Lobbyboy69

Never again will a Dev release a game still in Alpha stage hidden with a cloak of lies.


 

LOL

MMO Devs never learn. Ever heard of Shadowbane, Dark and Light or Anarchy Online? Crappy games that were buggy, unstable and nearly unplayable at launch. Yet even after those games were made... Age of Conan still got released the same way.

It WILL happen again. (If for no other reason than because some genius decided it would be a good idea to let the Shadowbane devs make another game.)

 

uh....don't call AO a crappy game. It had a bad launch, but AO was/is one of the best MMOs in the history of the genre.

Azrile  9/22/08 12:01:12 PM

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Originally posted by Wharg0ul
Originally posted by Raltar
Originally posted by Lobbyboy69

Never again will a Dev release a game still in Alpha stage hidden with a cloak of lies.


 

LOL

MMO Devs never learn. Ever heard of Shadowbane, Dark and Light or Anarchy Online? Crappy games that were buggy, unstable and nearly unplayable at launch. Yet even after those games were made... Age of Conan still got released the same way.

It WILL happen again. (If for no other reason than because some genius decided it would be a good idea to let the Shadowbane devs make another game.)

 

uh....don't call AO a crappy game. It had a bad launch, but AO was/is one of the best MMOs in the history of the genre.


 

I don't think subscription rates are the only measure of how good a game is..  But comparing WOW's 10.9M PAYING subscribers to AO's 20,000  mostly free subscribers... it's pretty easy to see what the best game is.

I do think devs will learn, especially from the big development houses like EA, Blizzard, Sony and Bioware.  The smaller developers don't have the option, like what happened to Funcom.. they simply run out of money and have to release the game without it being ready.  The big developers know that the first 30 days is the make or break to being financially successful.  Once a game get slammed that first month, the game may 'survive', but it will never be a success like WOW is.

I think the Bioware MMORPG is the only significant one (besides Blizzard) that is currently in production.  Both Blizzard and Bioware both have a great record of only releasing finished games.    What we will probably not see any more is small development companies trying to borrow money to make a MMORPG any more.

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“The corollary to that is if you’ve seen a game consolidate servers, you know it’s in deep, deep trouble — that’s not a healthy sign for an MMO,”
"Look at us six weeks out. If we’re not adding servers, we’re not doing well.” - MJ from Warhammer in July Interview

Lobbyboy69  9/22/08 12:04:15 PM

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Originally posted by Raltar
Originally posted by Lobbyboy69

Never again will a Dev release a game still in Alpha stage hidden with a cloak of lies.


 

LOL

MMO Devs never learn. Ever heard of Shadowbane, Dark and Light or Anarchy Online? Crappy games that were buggy, unstable and nearly unplayable at launch. Yet even after those games were made... Age of Conan still got released the same way.

It WILL happen again. (If for no other reason than because some genius decided it would be a good idea to let the Shadowbane devs make another game.)


 

mmo's are now a thriving industry mainly down to wow and have brought a whole new player base into the genre.

In todays market you can not bring out a game like AoC and expect to get away with it. Any serious game developer will have learned by these mistakes. Theres a lot of money to be made out there....release it like AoC did then you lose. Before you know it the popualtion drops by 3/4, the bosses are leaving and servers are being merged.

 
FC-Famine  9/22/08 12:06:33 PM

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Originally posted by Wharg0ul

I knew from day 1 there would be server merges. Interest in the game was far higher than expected at launch, of course, due to worn-out WoW players looking for another game. As a result FC opened new servers to accomodate the flood.

 

Indeed, but again the original quote is not on server merges. There were questions posed to the developers at the recent Dragoncon panel. You can find the log here.

I understand there is a lot of feedback on the subject but the idea of taking a discussion on character transfers and conforming it into server merges is not the intention of the original post.

 

Glen ''Famine/Soulwish'' Swan
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Alan0n  9/22/08 12:09:06 PM

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