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  trevornor

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Joined: 6/07/07
Posts: 155

No, Imperial commander, Nair does not come in wookie size. We do have an ewok 6 pack though

9/21/08 8:21:17 AM#21
Originally posted by Besttheiswow

I dont know why people disagree with the OP...he is absolutely right...

Warhammer is a nice game...thats it...its the same type of mmo as wow and others..the only difference is:

-its more pvp oriented

-you dont need to use the chat and talk to people to be able to play

-grouping is easy, quests are also easyer then drinking a glass of water

-combat is slow and too easy, and not fun

 

Overall its a rvr oriented mmo, but so easy to do anything that a 4 y old can play and you will never know he is 4 years old..he doesnt even need to type in chat to play the game ffs...

 

wow is an easy game..but comparing to warhammer you need to actualy try to play wow to do something...


 

I think there's a few more things that make WAR a bit more different than you realize. Unfortunatly, it takes more than a short time of play to find it.

so some facts

1. This is a PvP focused game. That's where the main challenges are, but on exploring a bit, I found some really good challenges inPvE too.

2. This game's set up is based on a familiar UI. But that being said, it's the first game that's given EVERY player control of the layout of the UI without relying on modding services.

3. You can level up in this game in any fashion you like. That includes the easy route of just doing PvE, or taking the PvP road less travelled aparently. Keep in mind this game did release with a fully done PvP levelling system (120 levels total, 40 PvE, 80 PvP)

4. The grouping feature is a deelightful thing, both with the Open Party system, as well as the PQ system. Both are wonderful evolutions of the MMO gaming that is much needed.

5. When joining a group, I don't get aksed what my build is or being told I need to change my spec to be "useful" With the renown skill system, the variations are so many that there are no cookie cutter builds. It is completely open.

Now back to the "easy mode" comment

I have a few questions to ask. Mind you this all is Tier 1 stuff

Did you complete the mission to kill 10 enemy players via PvP?

What is the enemy PvE boss level above hero and did you find the tier 1 one, and did you defeat it, and with how many people?

What rank was your renown?

What was your top characte's name and class?

Thank you for youe time. I find this game very complex after tier 1 and if you found the "easy mode" i'd like to know what it is....

  jzuska

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Joined: 11/25/06
Posts: 428

9/21/08 8:26:51 AM#22
Originally posted by huxflux2004

Although one could tell by reading the info that Mythic was giving out during these last 2 years, this is now a fact for everyone. WAR is boring. No innovation at all. A game that plays exactly the same way as WoW or LotRO. All that PQ and ToK crap is nothing else than the usual MMO elements in a different wrapping (the wrapping being not very different itself). I need some answers from the fans. Why were you so excited with the ToK? How different is it from LotROs book thingy, and how can it change the way you are experiencing the game? What about PQs? What is so exciting about those? And the combat. Oh my. ABSOLUTELY no new ideas. Slow, repetitive, easy. As uninteresting as it can get.

 

The only thing I kind of like is GUI. Although it has bugs all over the place.

 

Tok

Open parties

PQ's

 

I'm not going to list everyting. That's enough for a troll thread like this

  ste2000

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Joined: 2/28/04
Posts: 4726

9/21/08 8:31:41 AM#23

I ve been saying it all along, played beta for almost a year and the game got boring pretty soon.
Not enough good reasons to log on.
RvR is fine, but there is nothing else.

It looks like a huge PvP arena, with the RPG element almost totally missing, it does't feel like MMORPG IMO.

Hence I didn t buy it.
But for people who like to smash button is a good game.

 

  Besttheiswow

Novice Member

Joined: 7/11/08
Posts: 320

9/21/08 8:37:58 AM#24
Originally posted by trevornor
Originally posted by Besttheiswow

I dont know why people disagree with the OP...he is absolutely right...

Warhammer is a nice game...thats it...its the same type of mmo as wow and others..the only difference is:

-its more pvp oriented

-you dont need to use the chat and talk to people to be able to play

-grouping is easy, quests are also easyer then drinking a glass of water

-combat is slow and too easy, and not fun

 

Overall its a rvr oriented mmo, but so easy to do anything that a 4 y old can play and you will never know he is 4 years old..he doesnt even need to type in chat to play the game ffs...

 

wow is an easy game..but comparing to warhammer you need to actualy try to play wow to do something...


 

I think there's a few more things that make WAR a bit more different than you realize. Unfortunatly, it takes more than a short time of play to find it.

so some facts

1. This is a PvP focused game. That's where the main challenges are, but on exploring a bit, I found some really good challenges inPvE too.

2. This game's set up is based on a familiar UI. But that being said, it's the first game that's given EVERY player control of the layout of the UI without relying on modding services.

3. You can level up in this game in any fashion you like. That includes the easy route of just doing PvE, or taking the PvP road less travelled aparently. Keep in mind this game did release with a fully done PvP levelling system (120 levels total, 40 PvE, 80 PvP)

4. The grouping feature is a deelightful thing, both with the Open Party system, as well as the PQ system. Both are wonderful evolutions of the MMO gaming that is much needed.

5. When joining a group, I don't get aksed what my build is or being told I need to change my spec to be "useful" With the renown skill system, the variations are so many that there are no cookie cutter builds. It is completely open.

Now back to the "easy mode" comment

I have a few questions to ask. Mind you this all is Tier 1 stuff

Did you complete the mission to kill 10 enemy players via PvP?

What is the enemy PvE boss level above hero and did you find the tier 1 one, and did you defeat it, and with how many people?

What rank was your renown?

What was your top characte's name and class?

Thank you for youe time. I find this game very complex after tier 1 and if you found the "easy mode" i'd like to know what it is....


 

Yeah man..you got your point i got mine...

Warhammer is a nice game with some nice features...

But for someone playing wow for 4 years i want to find a new game..but going from wow to warhammer it feels to me going from one type of game to another that looks alike but has less to offer in terms of things i like..

If i want a different king of game from wow i must try fallen earth, darkfall etc..because going from wow to warhammer feels going to a less good game...even with 4 years of playing wow..i have so mutch more fun just fighting someone and killing it...and i do it for 4 years...

Warhammer lacks something, theres a feeling of boredom in it...and the people dont talk at all...i mean this is an mmo...people should talk, ask for directions etc..why dont they?? because the game is too easy..they dont need to ask stuff..anyone can do it easy ..and thats boring...i prefer to play a game..but warhammer is nothing about playing it plays by itself...

 

Its my opinion..im very sorry i dont like warhammer like you guys..but not everyone has the same tastes...

I know its a good game..but not averyone is going to like it...

  Daffid011

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Joined: 1/03/04
Posts: 7652

9/21/08 8:49:26 AM#25
Originally posted by trevornor 

I think there's a few more things that make WAR a bit more different than you realize. Unfortunatly, it takes more than a short time of play to find it.

so some facts

1. This is a PvP focused game. That's where the main challenges are, but on exploring a bit, I found some really good challenges inPvE too.

The PvP is fun, but the PvE is nothing to get excited about. 

2. This game's set up is based on a familiar UI. But that being said, it's the first game that's given EVERY player control of the layout of the UI without relying on modding services.

Lotro has this exact same customizing feature.  It is almost identical, so as far as I know Warhammer is the second to do this.  A trend I hope more games follow, because it is nice.  There are some bugs with thing resetting after combat or game sessions for me.

3. You can level up in this game in any fashion you like. That includes the easy route of just doing PvE, or taking the PvP road less travelled aparently. Keep in mind this game did release with a fully done PvP levelling system (120 levels total, 40 PvE, 80 PvP)

My friends love this and I'm warming up to it. 

4. The grouping feature is a deelightful thing, both with the Open Party system, as well as the PQ system. Both are wonderful evolutions of the MMO gaming that is much needed.

I like the grouping system for casual play, but I think the PQ system is flawed in execution.  They are fun and a good concept, but not to difficult and right now they are deserted.  Its only been about a week single early access and T1 public quests are ghost towns most of the time.  Maybe that changes after most people get level 40s and start making alts.

5. When joining a group, I don't get aksed what my build is or being told I need to change my spec to be "useful" With the renown skill system, the variations are so many that there are no cookie cutter builds. It is completely open.

I think it is to early to write off peoples ability to min/max spec demands in groups/raids just yet.  It is nice to see people just accepting basic tank healer dps roles right now.

Now back to the "easy mode" comment

I have a few questions to ask. Mind you this all is Tier 1 stuff

Did you complete the mission to kill 10 enemy players via PvP?

What is the enemy PvE boss level above hero and did you find the tier 1 one, and did you defeat it, and with how many people?

What rank was your renown?

What was your top characte's name and class?

Thank you for youe time. I find this game very complex after tier 1 and if you found the "easy mode" i'd like to know what it is....

 

  crunchyblack

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/23/08
Posts: 1374

9/21/08 8:51:46 AM#26

It looks to me that the OP, read a write up about warhammer, then came here to post why he didnt like it, its as if he had never played warhammer before, which is fine, the games not really a pve focused game. If your a pve guy then mabey avoid warhammer.

But honestly nothing the OP mentioned reflects warhammer, how it plays, the bugs, or its fun factor.  I suggest playing warhammer, past level 15, try the RvR and the PQ's you seem to hate so much.  They really play difrently then how they read in a review.

Those of us who play warhammer know when someone hasnt played and writes a review...UI bugs...please

At least you had the nerve to come back and flame someone's sarcastic post...

  dougmysticey

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Joined: 6/25/06
Posts: 1182

9/21/08 8:53:20 AM#27
Originally posted by Besttheiswow
Originally posted by trevornor
Originally posted by Besttheiswow

I dont know why people disagree with the OP...he is absolutely right...

Warhammer is a nice game...thats it...its the same type of mmo as wow and others..the only difference is:

-its more pvp oriented

-you dont need to use the chat and talk to people to be able to play

-grouping is easy, quests are also easyer then drinking a glass of water

-combat is slow and too easy, and not fun

 

Overall its a rvr oriented mmo, but so easy to do anything that a 4 y old can play and you will never know he is 4 years old..he doesnt even need to type in chat to play the game ffs...

 

wow is an easy game..but comparing to warhammer you need to actualy try to play wow to do something...


 

I think there's a few more things that make WAR a bit more different than you realize. Unfortunatly, it takes more than a short time of play to find it.

so some facts

1. This is a PvP focused game. That's where the main challenges are, but on exploring a bit, I found some really good challenges inPvE too.

2. This game's set up is based on a familiar UI. But that being said, it's the first game that's given EVERY player control of the layout of the UI without relying on modding services.

3. You can level up in this game in any fashion you like. That includes the easy route of just doing PvE, or taking the PvP road less travelled aparently. Keep in mind this game did release with a fully done PvP levelling system (120 levels total, 40 PvE, 80 PvP)

4. The grouping feature is a deelightful thing, both with the Open Party system, as well as the PQ system. Both are wonderful evolutions of the MMO gaming that is much needed.

5. When joining a group, I don't get aksed what my build is or being told I need to change my spec to be "useful" With the renown skill system, the variations are so many that there are no cookie cutter builds. It is completely open.

Now back to the "easy mode" comment

I have a few questions to ask. Mind you this all is Tier 1 stuff

Did you complete the mission to kill 10 enemy players via PvP?

What is the enemy PvE boss level above hero and did you find the tier 1 one, and did you defeat it, and with how many people?

What rank was your renown?

What was your top characte's name and class?

Thank you for youe time. I find this game very complex after tier 1 and if you found the "easy mode" i'd like to know what it is....


 

Yeah man..you got your point i got mine...

Warhammer is a nice game with some nice features...

But for someone playing wow for 4 years i want to find a new game..but going from wow to warhammer it feels to me going from one type of game to another that looks alike but has less to offer in terms of things i like..

If i want a different king of game from wow i must try fallen earth, darkfall etc..because going from wow to warhammer feels going to a less good game...even with 4 years of playing wow..i have so mutch more fun just fighting someone and killing it...and i do it for 4 years...

Warhammer lacks something, theres a feeling of boredom in it...and the people dont talk at all...i mean this is an mmo...people should talk, ask for directions etc..why dont they?? because the game is too easy..they dont need to ask stuff..anyone can do it easy ..and thats boring...i prefer to play a game..but warhammer is nothing about playing it plays by itself...

 

Its my opinion..im very sorry i dont like warhammer like you guys..but not everyone has the same tastes...

I know its a good game..but not averyone is going to like it...


 

So if you want a very different experience try Age of Conan (heheh). On a serious note though, have you tried EVE online or Vanguard (revisited)? Those games are different with Eve being an economy driven Sci fI space game with a very revolutionary skill system and VG is a true Sandbox RPG.

I am liking Warhammer (played MMOs since M59 and EQ) and find the further I go in the game the more I like it.. With many others it was the opposite for me. I liked it out of the gate but got bored as I went. Of course,  I like the Warhammer lore and have played Warhammer fantasy RPG and table top wargaming for ages. This helps my enjoyment factor.

  Dreadblade

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Joined: 2/26/08
Posts: 398

9/21/08 8:57:49 AM#28

The game is just plain boring, the scenarios are worse then the WoW Bgs with nothing new, there is no RvR on anything less then a High/High server in T2 and above, the graphics are sub par and the lag is horrid. The PQs are a grind and defend them as you might they are just another form of grinding. Server Imbalance and low pop servers will drive the masses away in the end along with piss poor client performance!

Oh and Skull Throne has crashed yet again last night, happens everyday yet Mark Jacob had the balls to say no server has crashed yet in an interveiw, wow what a flat out lie.

  APRAurore

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Joined: 4/19/03
Posts: 330

Itinerant MMO player.

9/21/08 9:00:26 AM#29

Somehow I fail to see the resemblence between WoW's art direction and graphics and WAR's. To me they look really different. There are some elements of the character models that are similar because of Warcraft ripping it off of Warhammer. But even then, there are huge differences. I love the look of WAR because it's bangon with the Warhammer miniatures and illustrations of the world. If Mythic had changed it, then I would have been 100% disappointed with the looks of the game. There isn't much that Mythic could have changed from how they put in the artwork since it's all based on Warhammer lore and art. Even though the graphics aren't the best, I like how the game looks. It meshes well together and a lot of attention was put into making the gameworld.

 

I also like how the game's combat was designed because it's what I expected for a game based on Warhammer. I feel like part of a large army of allies going up against the daunting force of an enemy army. To me what Mythic promised was exactly what we got. Other people can disagree, but I've been following the game for years and read forums, newsletters, etc and that's what Mythic delivered. For someone like me who enjoys both Warhammer and Warhammer 40k, but also doesn't have a lot of time to spend on playing games especially during the week, this game is perfect. My only beef so far is that Mythic made destruction a little too 'cool' so that there are population imbalances already. I rolled order and hope we still manage to survive against destro.

 

Things I like about WAR:

-immersive ToK. Yes it's a lot like LotRO's but you start getting more stuff straight away and with less grind. It takes LotRO's system several steps further.

-combat. It's faster than LotRO or EQ2, and on par with WoW's. I don't button mash in PvP. It's definitely not a button-mashing game. PvE is PvE and will usually be button-mashing.

-PvP/RvR. I like how scenarios were implemented though it's not my favourite form of PvP. I prefer world PvP and RvR. I haven't delved too much into it, but I think I'm going to really like it. I've played quite a few scenarios and have already bought some reknown gear. It's really cool that you can level and get money off of killing enemy players.

-every class seems to have a place. I was happy to see how many warrior priests there were playing alongside my own. I was afraid that everyone would roll dps and that there would be a few healers left. Fortunately, that hasn't happened.

Back in EvE. Started with BatMUD. Main MMOs have been EvE and DAoC.

  boomerangx

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Posts: 259

I hope Aion doesn't suck...

9/21/08 9:04:19 AM#30
Originally posted by huxflux2004

Although one could tell by reading the info that Mythic was giving out during these last 2 years, this is now a fact for everyone. WAR is boring. No innovation at all. A game that plays exactly the same way as WoW or LotRO. All that PQ and ToK crap is nothing else than the usual MMO elements in a different wrapping (the wrapping being not very different itself). I need some answers from the fans. Why were you so excited with the ToK? How different is it from LotROs book thingy, and how can it change the way you are experiencing the game? What about PQs? What is so exciting about those? And the combat. Oh my. ABSOLUTELY no new ideas. Slow, repetitive, easy. As uninteresting as it can get.

 

The only thing I kind of like is GUI. Although it has bugs all over the place.

 

What game are you comparing it to that is so great? I mean if WAR bores you..what game excites you?

I always ask this question to these types of threads and it usually goes unanswered...

I play a lot of games...

  holonist

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9/21/08 9:04:36 AM#31

Jesus , some of these guys are even trying to redefine the term MMORPG.

The trolling as reached unparallel levels in this forum.

  crunchyblack

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Posts: 1374

9/21/08 9:05:21 AM#32

People are confusing artistic graphics with cartoon graphics.  Since warhammer takes the artistic look, people get pissed that the graphics arnt photo realistic.

no offense though, anything beats wow's horrible kiddie graphics.  I mean the characters look so goofy its not even funny.  Alt least war's characters look gritty and detailed.

  crunchyblack

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9/21/08 9:10:15 AM#33
Originally posted by holonist

Jesus , some of these guys are even trying to redefine the term MMORPG.

The trolling as reached unparallel levels in this forum.


 

Your going to see this with every single new p2p mmo release. The more hype a given game will have the more hardcore troller will come out to try in any way possible to make wow look better.

What you see here is desperation.

if the game really was terrible or boring you would here a lot more complaining from the players, not just from the trolls.  Think AoC stlye revolts. 

  Sgt.Shatter

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Joined: 7/17/04
Posts: 54

9/21/08 9:14:10 AM#34

WoW  got boring in the first 30 minutes.

WAR got boring...after an hour.

 

 

So it's a small improvement to WoW. =]

  Daffid011

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Posts: 7652

9/21/08 9:15:33 AM#35
Originally posted by dougmysticey 

VG is a true Sandbox RPG.

 

 

Vanguard is NOT a sandbox MMO.  I wish people would quit saying that.   It has a few sandbox elements, but it is the same fomula and gameplay as every other linear EQ clone.

  crunchyblack

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9/21/08 9:17:34 AM#36
Originally posted by Sgt.Shatter

WoW  got boring in the first 30 minutes.

WAR got boring...after an hour.

 

 

So it's a small improvement to WoW. =]


 

Perhaps mmo's arnt your cup of tea if your attention span is that short.

  gestalt11

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9/21/08 9:19:28 AM#37

Plays exactly the same as LOTRO and WoW?  Well I guess you proved you aren't very preceptive.

 

Good job!

 

Action points don't work like mana.  Overlooking morale makes you a bad player.  Neither game has tactics.  Neither game has Knockback.

 

Getting tired of repeating myself over and over.  Anyway good luck with thinking everything is the same even when its different. 

 

 

  Eckobah

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Joined: 9/18/08
Posts: 16

"It''s a dog eat dog world out there!!... and I happen to be wearing milk bone underwear!"

9/21/08 9:21:02 AM#38

     One thing mythic said from the very start and all through development and beta was that the game was about RvR. Not about crafting, quests, or any other aspect. WAR!  And I think they have done a great job with the RvR. You can go and actually take that keep from the other side. Warhammer has aspects of RvR that other games do not.

     Not once do I ever remember Mythic saying you will have a whole new aspect of a game never seen before. Sure it's another MMO. However I see an MMO that has a lot of PvP and RvR. A game that has potential. The thing is all MMO's will always have quests, tomes, PvE, and PvP. As well as all the other aspects we see in other MMOs. Read the storylines. Find out why this is the way it is or how it got that way.

     Sure Warhammer, Lord of the rings, World of Warcraft, and many others are basicly the same games in a different wrapper. But which one interests you? Me, I have been a warhammer player and fan since the game first appeared. Back when it was just a tabletop game. I also like the storyline in Warhammer Online more than the others. And yes I played those others also... alot.

     So I ask you. Why flame a game? If they are all the same to you, then why not spend time playing and talking about the one you like the most rather than wasting time flaming the ones you don't?

Eckobah

  Balthaazar1

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9/21/08 9:22:59 AM#39

I much Perfer the artistic style of Warhammer than Warcraft..

 

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Needless to say, this game is also a hundred times funner than Warcraft which you seem to think is the king shit compared to Warhammer. It has about 20 scenarios instead of a few and the rvr actually has people in it, feeling like an epic war. The zones are tons bigger than Warcrafts and get progressively bigger as you advance in tiers. I feel like the art style of War is that of a good fantasy book come to life, while as Warcraft.. feels like an acid trip gone bad while watching kiddie cartoons. To each their own

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  gestalt11

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9/21/08 9:40:15 AM#40
Originally posted by Eckobah

     One thing mythic said from the very start and all through development and beta was that the game was about RvR. Not about crafting, quests, or any other aspect. WAR!  And I think they have done a great job with the RvR. You can go and actually take that keep from the other side. Warhammer has aspects of RvR that other games do not.

     Not once do I ever remember Mythic saying you will have a whole new aspect of a game never seen before. Sure it's another MMO. However I see an MMO that has a lot of PvP and RvR. A game that has potential. The thing is all MMO's will always have quests, tomes, PvE, and PvP. As well as all the other aspects we see in other MMOs. Read the storylines. Find out why this is the way it is or how it got that way.

     Sure Warhammer, Lord of the rings, World of Warcraft, and many others are basicly the same games in a different wrapper. But which one interests you? Me, I have been a warhammer player and fan since the game first appeared. Back when it was just a tabletop game. I also like the storyline in Warhammer Online more than the others. And yes I played those others also... alot.

     So I ask you. Why flame a game? If they are all the same to you, then why not spend time playing and talking about the one you like the most rather than wasting time flaming the ones you don't?

Eckobah

 

If people really want to say that having tab targeting and hotbars makes any game's combat the same as WoW.  Then cars and motorcylces are the same thing since they both have internal combustion engines.

 

This while thing is silly.  There are fundamental differences in the combat mechanics.  The people who post stuff like this are just proving they did not play the game much at all or are just not very bright or perceptive.

 

This really not even a matter of opinion it is just sheer intellectualy laziness and close mindedness on their part.

 

I haven't even said whether WAR combat is good, but it is certainly not the same as WoW.   That is easy to prove.  And farnkly it is easily apparent as soon as you fight multiple targets at once.

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