WAR (Warhammer Online)

Woohoo I get to be someone that gets flamed!

Are you ready for this? ;) I got into the beta early. I was so disappointed I was nauseated from it. They took basic lore concepts from Warhammer, pasted a World of Warcraft template over everything, and then threw in DAoC RvR for good measure. Don't like my opinion? Tough. Get over it.

Out of EverQuest, EverQuest II, Dark Age of Camelot, Shadowbane, Star Wars Galaxies, Ryzom, Lord of The Rings Online, Dungeons and Dragons Online, Asheron's Call, Lineage II, Guild Wars, World of Warcraft, Vanguard, and Age of Conan, Warhammer Online is the most un-original MMO I have EVER played. Some are raving about it. Some are hating on it. Others, (Like me) cancelled their pre-orders and refuse to speak of it in public. :P

You are saying Warhammer is "intricate" and has "layers". Onions have layers. Go eat one.

Originally posted by ProfRed

Originally posted by Blodpls

Profred,

I am a Golden Demon Award runner up from early 90's for my modeling / painting skills which is the pinnacle of the Warhammer hobby, except for winning the competition obviously. 

I have to say they really went down the wrong route with this game, there is huge amount of lore if you include all the novels ect but it's been pretty much squandered, they should have made it more like the Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay game and made a much more open game of it.  

I agree they took the Warhammer IP and molded it into the DaOC RvR model of game, but as far as lore, story, setting, etc. goes I find it done very well.  It has always been touted as a DaOC style RvR game in a Warhammer setting and this has been a fact since day 1.  I realize it isn't the ideal style to represent Warhammer as a tabletop game, but they did a really good job.

Not if you are a WAR TT player and love the lore. And I am in one of those clubs btw.

I have about 8000 miniatures. Mostly historical and about 1000 WAR minatures (spread over 3 Armies). In the club only 2 other guys ordered the CE, but they didn't even get the boxes yet. They only ordered it for the free miniature inside.

Yes they are THAT hardcore. Now guess which MMORPG they play  beside the TT competition? I don't think you have ANY idea how let down they were when the specs of the game became known.

And yes I don't finish in the top 10 competition, but I find the TT simply the best set of rules and the greatest miniatures game ever. The MMO: you know now what I think of it.

Originally posted by Yunbei

I just like to PVE. I want a carpet of a world story. And beat me, but I liked the quest stories in AoC.

Essentially there are two kind of MMos, those where I read the quest texts, and those where I dont. I did read and enjoy them in AoC or LOTRO, but not in WAR. WAR quests are just ugly generic. As great the as PVP fun is, everything else in WAR just feels meh to me.

Suddenly it all made sense and I stopped reading the thread.

Originally posted by bodypass

Originally posted by ProfRed

Originally posted by Blodpls

Profred,

I am a Golden Demon Award runner up from early 90's for my modeling / painting skills which is the pinnacle of the Warhammer hobby, except for winning the competition obviously. 

I have to say they really went down the wrong route with this game, there is huge amount of lore if you include all the novels ect but it's been pretty much squandered, they should have made it more like the Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay game and made a much more open game of it.  

I agree they took the Warhammer IP and molded it into the DaOC RvR model of game, but as far as lore, story, setting, etc. goes I find it done very well.  It has always been touted as a DaOC style RvR game in a Warhammer setting and this has been a fact since day 1.  I realize it isn't the ideal style to represent Warhammer as a tabletop game, but they did a really good job.

 

Not if you are a WAR TT player and love the lore. And I am in one of those clubs btw.

I have about 8000 miniatures. Mostly historical and about 1000 WAR minatures (spread over 3 Armies). In the club only 2 other guys ordered the CE, but they didn't even get the boxes yet. They only ordered it for the free miniature inside.

Yes they are THAT hardcore. Now guess which MMORPG they play  beside the TT competition? I don't think you have ANY idea how let down they were when the specs of the game became known.

And yes I don't finish in the top 10 competition, but I find the TT simply the best set of rules and the greatest miniature game ever. The MMO: you know now what I think of it.

Well I can finally agree with you that the WAR TT is badass, and that Warhammer Online does not represent it so much as it does DaOC style RvR.  I think Warhammer could be a great RTS MMORPG where each player has armies and it could be something great, but this has never been Mythic's approach from day 1.  To be let down by this is simply not reading up on the game at all.  The lore is there.  It is the application of gameplay that doesn't match up, and has never fully intended to. 

Originally posted by Deadzero

Originally posted by Yunbei

I just like to PVE. I want a carpet of a world story. And beat me, but I liked the quest stories in AoC.

Essentially there are two kind of MMos, those where I read the quest texts, and those where I dont. I did read and enjoy them in AoC or LOTRO, but not in WAR. WAR quests are just ugly generic. As great the as PVP fun is, everything else in WAR just feels meh to me.

 

Suddenly it all made sense and I stopped reading the thread.

 

Seriously. What part about shoving the bones of the dead into a hellcannon and firing them into an empire town is a "generic pve" quest.

Originally posted by bodypass

Originally posted by ProfRed

Originally posted by Blodpls

Profred,

I am a Golden Demon Award runner up from early 90's for my modeling / painting skills which is the pinnacle of the Warhammer hobby, except for winning the competition obviously. 

I have to say they really went down the wrong route with this game, there is huge amount of lore if you include all the novels ect but it's been pretty much squandered, they should have made it more like the Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay game and made a much more open game of it.  

I agree they took the Warhammer IP and molded it into the DaOC RvR model of game, but as far as lore, story, setting, etc. goes I find it done very well.  It has always been touted as a DaOC style RvR game in a Warhammer setting and this has been a fact since day 1.  I realize it isn't the ideal style to represent Warhammer as a tabletop game, but they did a really good job.

 

Not if you are a WAR TT player and love the lore. And I am in one of those clubs btw.

I have about 8000 miniatures. Mostly historical and about 1000 WAR minatures (spread over 3 Armies). In the club only 2 other guys ordered the CE, but they didn't even get the boxes yet. They only ordered it for the free miniature inside.

Yes they are THAT hardcore. Now guess which MMORPG they play  beside the TT competition? I don't think you have ANY idea how let down they were when the specs of the game became known.

And yes I don't finish in the top 10 competition, but I find the TT simply the best set of rules and the greatest miniatures game ever. The MMO: you know now what I think of it.

You do realize that making a mmo to appeal to just the pen and paper rpg players would be financial suicide right?  They have to cannibalize wow's market share by making the game playable for those of us who missed out on the "pen and paper rpg craze"

I think as long as the lore is there that it will appeal to non pen and paper players.  I really just think that most people have yet to really venture past the instant RvR action and actually look for the lore.

Originally posted by bodypass

Originally posted by ProfRed

Originally posted by Blodpls

Profred,

I am a Golden Demon Award runner up from early 90's for my modeling / painting skills which is the pinnacle of the Warhammer hobby, except for winning the competition obviously. 

I have to say they really went down the wrong route with this game, there is huge amount of lore if you include all the novels ect but it's been pretty much squandered, they should have made it more like the Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay game and made a much more open game of it.  

I agree they took the Warhammer IP and molded it into the DaOC RvR model of game, but as far as lore, story, setting, etc. goes I find it done very well.  It has always been touted as a DaOC style RvR game in a Warhammer setting and this has been a fact since day 1.  I realize it isn't the ideal style to represent Warhammer as a tabletop game, but they did a really good job.

 

Not if you are a WAR TT player and love the lore. And I am in one of those clubs btw.

I have about 8000 miniatures. Mostly historical and about 1000 WAR minatures (spread over 3 Armies). In the club only 2 other guys ordered the CE, but they didn't even get the boxes yet. They only ordered it for the free miniature inside.

Yes they are THAT hardcore. Now guess which MMORPG they play  beside the TT competition? I don't think you have ANY idea how let down they were when the specs of the game became known.

And yes I don't finish in the top 10 competition, but I find the TT simply the best set of rules and the greatest miniatures game ever. The MMO: you know now what I think of it.

I was not ever a big TT player, I was more a models in a cabinet kind of guy.  I think the table top game would translate much better into a Total War type game which would be awesome in my opinion. 

Anyway not gonna keep bashing this game cause I like sandbox so obviously it's not for me.

Is anyone else tired of hearing why every PvE player on this board dislikes WAR?You knew coming into the game it was purely based on PvP.All these people playing WoW and Lotro bashing a PvP game is silly.Different games attract different people.I dont like LOTRO because the PvP blows and many other reasons.but i knew it from reading what the game was about and when i tried the trial it was as i expected,not my kind of game.Yet its good at what it does, just not for me.Did i have to come to the boards and tell every person here its a crappy game because i didnt enjoy it?No.Get the point?