Yeah, I've been feeling the same way; I haven't been able to jump into a game for awhile.

I've been thinking about trying L2 again; I tried it before the update but the grind was brutal.  And SgtFrog talking so greatly of FFXI has me interested in that as well :)

Don't know if it's been mentioned but Darkfall and Earthrise don't sound too bad, they sound very similar in principle with just the theme/setting being different. From what i can tell they sound similar to how Pre-NGE SWG was but without the level system it had and with open PvP that actually has rules, this makes them sound very appealing to me personally as i'm a pre-NGE SWG refugee and haven't found a true home since NGE hit SWG.

I'm not saying they are the next big thing or anything as i haven't played them (not released yet), i am saying they could be worth a try, perhaps waiting and seeing what the trial is like or trying to get into beta could help you out.

Originally posted by SgtFrog

Hows about FF11?

tried that too. Got a lvl 70 WHM. I wasn't into the forced grouping past lvl 16. Sorry :( And Im sure they purged my account by now

Enigma, shit I  thought I was only getting old! But agreeded mmo's/any game is now reduntant, single player, multi player,rts does not matter I find no enjoyment in them.  Let you know on the darkfall for I will maby wasting more cash on that(never played shadowbane).

Originally posted by Enigma

Originally posted by SgtFrog

Hows about FF11?

 

tried that too. Got a lvl 70 WHM. I wasn't into the forced grouping past lvl 16. Sorry :( And Im sure they purged my account by now

account is still there probably :)

ah well. its not for everyone i guess :)

have you seen AION?

Originally posted by mike470

Yeah, I've been feeling the same way; I haven't been able to jump into a game for awhile.

I've been thinking about trying L2 again; I tried it before the update but the grind was brutal.  And SgtFrog talking so greatly of FFXI has me interested in that as well :)

its a good game :)

if ya have the time for it :)

Have you tried Pirates of the Burning Sea? Just don't play it for the Avcom.

I'm still fairly heavily stuck to that game. It has, probably by far, the best PvP available in any game I've played. Of course that's my personal opinion.

Well I didn't see you mention Ryzom, you could try that and I think it is still free.

When I played it I thought it was ok.  The living environments are nice and it isn't your typical fantasy game. If you really like crafting the stats on items and socializing then it might be a good choice.

Originally posted by SgtFrog

Originally posted by mike470

Yeah, I've been feeling the same way; I haven't been able to jump into a game for awhile.

I've been thinking about trying L2 again; I tried it before the update but the grind was brutal.  And SgtFrog talking so greatly of FFXI has me interested in that as well :)

 

its a good game :)

if ya have the time for it :)

Yeah, that's the only problem; I have an addictive personality  and I don't want to spend too much time on an MMO.

Too bad. I guess theres an end for everyone.

Originally posted by Fruitkicker

Have you tried Pirates of the Burning Sea? Just don't play it for the Avcom.

I'm still fairly heavily stuck to that game. It has, probably by far, the best PvP available in any game I've played. Of course that's my personal opinion.

 

Yeah I tried pirates of the burning sea. It was too incomplete for me to enjoy.

Originally posted by CactusmanX

Well I didn't see you mention Ryzom, you could try that and I think it is still free.

When I played it I thought it was ok.  The living environments are nice and it isn't your typical fantasy game. If you really like crafting the stats on items and socializing then it might be a good choice.

Aye i tried that the first it was released as well as last year lol

Im serious when I say Ive tried virtually every MMO ever made that is "mainstream." Mainstream meaning I know there are thousands of Korean and Chinese mmos out there I never tried (nor will) but I essentially played em all.

The forum on the left over there?

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Played every single one of em.

I have given thought to Aion (but that looks like a Lineage clone to me) and I have my eyes on Huxley, Star Trekonline and Champions but for the most part I think im done with mmos. If the other games I just mention grabs my interest then I will enjoy getting back into the genre.

But so far with the games that have been released in the last 2.5 years, well, I haven't been impressed whatsoever with em. Just my opinion.

i really don't want to play the game nowadays..wow series are not my style..i don't like the too lovely games either...sad "-"

    While alot of people think WoW saved the genre I think it hurt it in alot of ways and most importantly was the social aspect.....The OP mentioned that no oen talks in Warhammer....The reason why is because all games have followed WoWs pattern of making everything have very little downtime.....Everyone thought that all action and no talking was a good thing but they were wrong......Factor in new programs like ventrilo and otehr voice chats where people dont have to talk on any of the public channels anymore and you ahve less interaction......Factor in that all these games now are geared more towards the soloer than towards the group and you get even less social interaction.......When I played EQ I knew several people that just hung out in POK and chatted.....I made more friends in EQ than all other MMOs I have played combined (probably played over 20 or so others).......I think the OP is correct in that the MMOs now are definitely just made to make money......It looks to me like Warhammer just tried to take what was successful in 2 other games and try to make their millions of it (DAoc's RVR and WoW's battlegrounds).........

I did that a while back, i still apply for Beta, but it seems i download and remove just as quick or quicker.
I do agree with OP in more ways than one.
To may games now that are free to play and that they should be for one simple reason. But it also makes it hard for the ones that are trying to make a HARD worthwhile game because now nobody wants to pay for it.

On top of not wanting to pay it has to be massively easy to get to end game or it's down the toilet as well.
A game made like Everquest now would fail so bad it would smoke going backwards through it's own doors. Why? because it would be to hard and to long to play. Nobody want to sink 5+ years into a game anymore or make friends it's all about me and end game and how fast we get there then complain about how boring it is. Not enough content Vs to much content.

Still i vote for the OP and think it's time for something new.

    Have a Great day and OP have an awesome life there is a hugh world to discover.  don't be like me and say i will do that later,  Later may never come.

Originally posted by Isikari

I have to say I'm shocked that you weren't flamed on this, but maybe I've just been hanging out on the wrong MMO-in-development forums. It seems everyone here agrees with you, which is interesting. Then again, people who frequent this site enough to post and have a few on MMO's in general were probably playing before WoW.

I have to agree with one of the first replies though, WoW was huge and it was aimed dead center at casual gamers. A lot of people playing WoW are really into a game for the first time, not just the young kids but a lot of older folk. Everyone else wants to get some of those players, and coming out with a quest system, interface, classes, and even lore similar to it with slightly better graphics and a tweak or two will rake in the cash.

I do have a serious question though, you said Darkfall will be the next Shadowbane. I'll admit ignorance about the fate of Shadowbane, and I have been looking at Darkfall with some interest. I don't want to hear it flamed to hell and back, but I do want to know why you think it will fail, or at least not do as well as a lot of folks say.

Good, sad, and unfortunately true post.

My guess, he wasn't flamed because he's posted over 10,000 times. I don't know of many others that've posted that much.

You are not the only one man, As of last month I quit all mmorpg games after I could not find anyone that actually is fun. (Outside of Guild wars with its good storyline but guild wars is NOT an mmorpg so.yeah).

Basically I am saving up to buy myself a motorcycle now. Currently doing my MSC (motorcycle safety course) Going to make my new hobby to ride, I will probably give all my mmo accounts to friends that iv met on this forum or something.

I totally agree with you OP.  The last MMO I can remember having fun in is Final Fantasy XI and that was 3 years ago.  I've played literally everything (free and P2P) since then and it's been disappointment after disappointment.  Maybe I'm just burned out on MMO's, I think I'm going to buy a 360 since it's really cheap now and just stick to single player games. 

WAR is a good game, but I just don't feel like playing anymore.  It's weird, I got to level 10 and just said, I'm bored and Logged off.  This sucks.

PS.  If you really like meeting people and partying instead of always playing solo, I recommend Final Fantasy XI.  The only problem is it takes a huge commitment to get anywhere in the game, but with the new features added recently it's never been easier to level up.

Originally posted by Enigma

Originally posted by CactusmanX

Well I didn't see you mention Ryzom, you could try that and I think it is still free.

When I played it I thought it was ok.  The living environments are nice and it isn't your typical fantasy game. If you really like crafting the stats on items and socializing then it might be a good choice.

 

Aye i tried that the first it was released as well as last year lol

Im serious when I say Ive tried virtually every MMO ever made that is "mainstream." Mainstream meaning I know there are thousands of Korean and Chinese mmos out there I never tried (nor will) but I essentially played em all.

The forum on the left over there?

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Played every single one of em.

I have given thought to Aion (but that looks like a Lineage clone to me) and I have my eyes on Huxley, Star Trekonline and Champions but for the most part I think im done with mmos. If the other games I just mention grabs my interest then I will enjoy getting back into the genre.

But so far with the games that have been released in the last 2.5 years, well, I haven't been impressed whatsoever with em. Just my opinion.

i normally kill people who say that :)

but il forgive you haha

only thing its cloned are the asian style graphics.

apart from the its totally different.

maybe you should read up about it :)

Originally posted by SgtFrog

Originally posted by Enigma

Originally posted by CactusmanX

Well I didn't see you mention Ryzom, you could try that and I think it is still free.

When I played it I thought it was ok.  The living environments are nice and it isn't your typical fantasy game. If you really like crafting the stats on items and socializing then it might be a good choice.

 

Aye i tried that the first it was released as well as last year lol

Im serious when I say Ive tried virtually every MMO ever made that is "mainstream." Mainstream meaning I know there are thousands of Korean and Chinese mmos out there I never tried (nor will) but I essentially played em all.

The forum on the left over there?

<---

Played every single one of em.

I have given thought to Aion (but that looks like a Lineage clone to me) and I have my eyes on Huxley, Star Trekonline and Champions but for the most part I think im done with mmos. If the other games I just mention grabs my interest then I will enjoy getting back into the genre.

But so far with the games that have been released in the last 2.5 years, well, I haven't been impressed whatsoever with em. Just my opinion.

i normally kill people who say that :)

but il forgive you haha

only thing its cloned are the asian style graphics.

apart from the its totally different.

maybe you should read up about it :)

Does FFXI still have its unrelentingly unforgiving death penalty?

I played a Samurai up to 75 (O-hat, sunglasses, the works) but after being deleveled back to 74 (multiple times) and spending literally days trying to get the level back, I had enough.

This was uhhhh close to 2, maybe 3 years ago mind you.

Oh but to stay on topic (im bad at this) I believe MMO's are cursed from the beginning by the way marketing systems are based around them.

These days every (smart) CEO wants research, research, research. Gather up that secondary data, forumlate some skewed statistical charts and find out how to SQUEEEEZE the most money out of whatever it is that is planning on being funded. (Noone wants to fund a primary research unless its absolutely necessary, the problem with this is so many of these MMO-development companies use research that was funded by other companies that has way less relevance to what they are trying to accomplish than they realize).

Basically what im saying is that until there is some sort of breakthough marketing scheme that allows MMO's to be developed for cheaper, faster, and with less risk, we are going to keep seeing crappy MMO's till the end of time.