I'm afraid Aion might not be for me

reason: slow weapon swing speed

no patient. they trying to make it western style and no doubt about slow weapon swing speed like western. i like asian artwork but it sadden me to see they copy western's slow weapon swing speed. Requiem is one of a rare eastern mmo that copied western's slow weapon swing speed. ff11 was slow as hell too but ff11 is not in this.

unlike lineage 2, archlord, silkroad where it is hit.hit.hit.hit.hit.hit

western is like hit..........hit...........hit...........hit...........hit..........hit

even a two handed sword in lineage 2 it is fast while keeping the realisitc sense and speed. but in something like lord of the rings is so damn sluggish to the point that it is too unrealistic.... unrealistic speed... no one will wait 2sec after each swing to swing another 2sec... swing.... 2 sec..... swing....2sec.... swing...

Aion:

- sense of damage impact is splendid

- sound of damage impact is splendid

- sense of overall attacking is splendid

- great artwork like usual asian mmos

- slow weapon swing speed like western

i hope that Aion will have plenty of active skill/moves so i can spam skill instead of starring at hit... wait 2sec...hit....wait 2sec....hit...wait 2sec.....hit

seen this?

uk.youtube.com/watch

Originally posted by Ephimero

seen this?

uk.youtube.com/watch

well i thank you for showing that. it does justify it.. i think. i do admit it is fast.

my question is.. was that with speed attack buff? or default attack speed?

edit: hmm it looks like they spam skill most the time. is there a vidoe showing default attacking without skill use? well atleast we can spam skill almost non stop instead of starring at hit... wait 2sec.... hit.... wait 2sec... hit.....wait 2sec..... hit

one thing im sure i definitely dislike... is you must wait for the bar to go up to nuke out a spell. i like how Requiem does where it nuke out instantly no need to wait for bar to go up.

Well, it's up to you if you want to play Aion or not, but I will play it :)

playing? it is an absolute. no idea wheather to stay with it or not though but i hope i will.

Weapon swinging is something that happens rarely, since the combat is based mostly in skill chains. Cant find any high level video with weapon swinging.

That assassin is soloing, so unless she made food for attack speed or something like that, it's default.

And about insta casting, there are some insta casting spells.

     Aion looks like Korean WoW, at least the vids I saw on youtube........

Originally posted by Theocritus

     Aion looks like Korean WoW, at least the vids I saw on youtube........

Everything looks like WoW, dude.../facepalm

Originally posted by Theocritus

     Aion looks like Korean WoW, at least the vids I saw on youtube........

http://www.onlineroleplay.com/Text-Based_MUDs/

Just for you.

Wow that is sick, are assasins supposed to be able to wield polearms?

Stygma system, you create your own hybrid classes ^^

Originally posted by Ephimero

seen this?

uk.youtube.com/watch

the red circle on the targets is massive!

I cant wait to play the game though

Actually, I think quite the opposite.  I have played as an Assassin and a Chanter and both swung pretty fast.  Infact, I've heard the exact opposite argument made that people are affraid this game will be a button masher since the timers are so fast in-between melee skills.  The auto attack combined with the constant skills avaliable make this game anything but slow imo.  Stick around and give it a shot, I'll bet you change your mind ^_^

Originally posted by Ephimero

seen this?

uk.youtube.com/watch

Holy crap, for a game that doesn't even have a release date yet, that looks pretty damn polished. I liked the UI

stigma system ftw.  I love the idea of my cleric learning abilities of other classes. one great feature of final fantasy that i wish more mmo's would employ. One avatar, many skills.

from previose posts you seem to not line any mmo.

maybe ya need a mmo break?

I'm been trying this game in Germany, good thought :)

Originally posted by coldfreedom

I'm afraid Aion might not be for me

reason: slow weapon swing speed

no patient. they trying to make it western style and no doubt about slow weapon swing speed like western. i like asian artwork but it sadden me to see they copy western's slow weapon swing speed. Requiem is one of a rare eastern mmo that copied western's slow weapon swing speed. ff11 was slow as hell too but ff11 is not in this.

unlike lineage 2, archlord, silkroad where it is hit.hit.hit.hit.hit.hit

western is like hit..........hit...........hit...........hit...........hit..........hit

even a two handed sword in lineage 2 it is fast while keeping the realisitc sense and speed. but in something like lord of the rings is so damn sluggish to the point that it is too unrealistic.... unrealistic speed... no one will wait 2sec after each swing to swing another 2sec... swing.... 2 sec..... swing....2sec.... swing...

 

 

Aion:

- sense of damage impact is splendid

- sound of damage impact is splendid

- sense of overall attacking is splendid

- great artwork like usual asian mmos

- slow weapon swing speed like western

 

i hope that Aion will have plenty of active skill/moves so i can spam skill instead of starring at hit... wait 2sec...hit....wait 2sec....hit...wait 2sec.....hit

 

 

 

This is pretty funny.  I can tell from this post that you have never tried to actually use a medevil weapon.  Go out and get a 15 pound greatsword and swing it at something (not just back and forth) a couple of times.  Have someone time you and see how fast you swing.  Or watch a movie with medeval style combat (not a we can fly around Jet Li movie), and see how fast they swing - Excalibur is a good example of that.

Your preference is your preference.  Just don't mistake it for realism.

shows slow weapon swing. swing then stand idle doing nothing www.youtube.com/watch

shows fast weapon swing. no idle. arms keep on moving and swinging www.youtube.com/watch

both video character using two handed weapon. look carefully. disregard skill. look only default normal attack swing. the first video oviously showing delay and idle of each swing during attacking progress while the second video show no idle at all during the progress of attacking.... arms keep on moving and swinging.

heres another refference showing slow weapon swing speed. two handed sword. swing.. idle doing nothing then swing... idle doing nothing... then swing. look at the character with white hair holding a two handed sword. the sword too heavy? cant swing fast in reality using medival weapon? well that is not it... look at it! it jus standing still idle doing nothing after each swing! if it is heavy and realistic it should atleast move its arms slowly while in the progress of attacking! but no! the progress of attacking is jus like a robot! swing once... stand doing nothing... swing again.... stand doing nothing.... swing again ect.... pc.ign.com/dor/objects/748723/warhammer-online/videos/warhammer_091508_rank_up.html

now look at this two handed sword weapon swing speed. fast foward to 00:40 to not waste time. www.youtube.com/watch

A sin holding a polearm... Nifty. I believe the stigma system took a page in guild wars book, where your character can wield anything if he has the right second class.

Beside, I believe the game will have skills to accelerate the swing rate, so don't worry.

I too hate slow atk speeds but to be honest the combo system in aion completely negates any slow weapon. I don't think the atk is slow to begin with having said this but:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAK5ulXZsSM

I don't see anything wrong with that.

Originally posted by coldfreedom

shows slow weapon swing. swing then stand idle doing nothing www.youtube.com/watch

shows fast weapon swing. no idle. arms keep on moving and swinging www.youtube.com/watch

 

both video character using two handed weapon. look carefully. disregard skill. look only default normal attack swing. the first video oviously showing delay and idle of each swing during attacking progress while the second video show no idle at all during the progress of attacking.... arms keep on moving and swinging.

 

 

 

heres another refference showing slow weapon swing speed. two handed sword. swing.. idle doing nothing then swing... idle doing nothing... then swing. look at the character with white hair holding a two handed sword. the sword too heavy? cant swing fast in reality using medival weapon? well that is not it... look at it! it jus standing still idle doing nothing after each swing! if it is heavy and realistic it should atleast move its arms slowly while in the progress of attacking! but no! the progress of attacking is jus like a robot! swing once... stand doing nothing... swing again.... stand doing nothing.... swing again ect.... another warhammer video

 

now look at this two handed sword weapon swing speed. fast foward to 00:40 to not waste time. www.youtube.com/watch

 

 

Wow, i can't see the logic here ...

I watched all those youtube video's and the were all showing slow combat from WARHAMMER. How can we argue about that? I played WAR in beta for more than half a year, and yeah it is so slow i would fall asleep just to think of it while driving in my car to pick up my pre-order... so i just canceled it (my oppinion).

But forgive me if i'm wrong... wasn't this thread about Aion?

Please just YouTube for Aion and you'll see not one single video of slow combat as you show here. Aion is fast and smooth, not slow and slugish.

I wouldn't worry about it, you'll love the gamespeed once you try it.

Yeah the combat in Aion looks kinetic in a way like L2 so that isn't a big concern with the game.

 Who cares about auto-attack speed?  You say that the Aion Assassin was attacking fast, but only because she was spamming skills.  If you're ever in combat in Aion and you're not spamming skills you'll be severely underpowered and will probably die, so idle attack speed is irrelevant.  The battle speed you saw in the assassin video will generally be the same for all classes throughout the game (aside from casters)

I also love fast attack speed, especially in L2, but look at it this way, if the attack speed of regular attacks were as fast as in L2 (perhaps with proper buffs) and the damage of normal hits were decent enough (again perhaps with proper buffs) it would most likely mean that useing skills would be close to pointless like a few classes in L2 (archers for example). Not saying it would completely destroy the idea of useing skills (maybe a stun or root where necessary) but it might ruin the combo chaining system that they got going on.