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banthis

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9/16/08 1:54:52 PM#26
Originally posted by Raztor
Originally posted by Paragus1

Did you ever play DAOC?

 

And this is important because...?

 

I doubt Mythic made this game for DAOC players... they woundn't have taken backwards steps since DAOC if it was the case.

Well they didnt' make it for Traditional PvE Dungeon Raiders & Dungeon Runners like WoW so who the hell did Mythic make it for? ...curious isn't it?  I mean..yea there's dungeons but there's no 24 to 40 man guild raid style ones except the King encounter which requires RvR to even get too...Im guessing they made it for RvR players not just DAoC players. 
 

LeKinK

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Joined: 7/12/08
Posts: 624

9/16/08 1:56:01 PM#27
Originally posted by Syno23
Originally posted by HiGHPLaiNS
Originally posted by crunchyblack

So the OP is complaining about endgame before they have even gotten there? Granted the op even plays WAR.


 

The Original Poster is using a tactic called:

C Y A = Cover Your Ass

He/She doesnt want to look bad later on down the road by stating he/she plays it, but is not confident in the product.

I'm totally playing this game till the end of time, but I'm just trying to put an end game schedule together, like on Mondays I do this, or Tues I do this, I mean will there be enough end game content for me to play 40 hrs a week or more and not get bored?

dear god...     well the end game raiding/dungeon will only be open once every 3 month i heard?   So imo I think this game wont be for you.

Syno23

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Joined: 8/18/08
Posts: 955

 
9/16/08 1:59:26 PM#28

I'm just wanna hear your answers, I'm just gonna be doing RvR guild sieging, but if I can't play 40 hrs a week or more I think that I dunno, just wondering if there was more end game than what I thought

Honeymoon69

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Joined: 11/30/07
Posts: 211

9/16/08 2:07:38 PM#29

Op is a very bad troll.
 

Noggin

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Joined: 8/21/08
Posts: 822

9/16/08 2:09:33 PM#30
Originally posted by Syno23

Let me get straight to the point, this game has very little end game and they've been covering it up for months tryting to get you hyped with the PvP. But there's honestly nothing to do after level 40 and renown rank 80.

End Game:

- Crafting

- Guild Sieging

- Enemy capital city

- Scenarios (Gonna be tired of them by lvl 40)

Have I missed anything, I mean is there really anything else to do, open world RvR is just like guild sieging, so basically this game has empty end game just like the rest of them. If you don't have a guild, don't plan on seeing good end game because there's not. No competition, nothing, and in the end, they may come out with some type of updates, but I'll be still playing Warhammer because I have a guild, I don't know about u guys, nothing really in this game besides guild competition.

MMOs don't seem to be for you. Perhaps you should look into single player games or perhaps even a console.

jblah

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Joined: 5/21/08
Posts: 269

9/16/08 2:11:29 PM#31
Originally posted by Syno23

I'm just wanna hear your answers, I'm just gonna be doing RvR guild sieging, but if I can't play 40 hrs a week or more I think that I dunno, just wondering if there was more end game than what I thought


 

Im sorry but any game that you plan to play 40+ hours a week you will eventually max out your character. you can make an alt if you wanted but unfortunatly in every MMO you will eventually have done all there is to do if you play enough. Whats important to me is replayability. Look at AOC tortage is nice but how people could do that several times is beyond me.

There are multiple starter zones, Tiers with different enviorments for keeps and BFO's. Not to mention if you max out on Order or destruction try the other side it will be like a new game as you must learn to adapt to the new classes and quests you will encounter.

Playing- Lotro, CO

Malickie

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Joined: 11/22/05
Posts: 3916

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9/16/08 2:14:00 PM#32
Originally posted by Honeymoon69

Op is a very bad troll.
 

Right, because anyone who has a legitimate question is a troll.  Endgame is one of the most important aspects to a lot of people, if there's a lack of it expect many more posts like this one. It hasn't raised any red flags for you, they didn't open up those last two tiers to mass testing?

For every minute You are angry , You lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson

crunchyblack

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Joined: 1/23/08
Posts: 1096

9/16/08 2:15:53 PM#33

The problem is that no one has really experienced endgame yet. SO by saying that there is nothing to do at endgame, well makes him look kind of like a troll.

Once people start hitting endgame after release we all will know what endgame entails. Untill then, anyone saying they know what endgame is like is assuming they know.
 

A non troll like thread regarding endgame would more or less be asking what people think regarding how endgame will be, not stating the reasons why endgame is lacking (eventhough the op has never played to endgame)

Personally i have no idea how endgame is going to play out.

Mrbloodworth

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Joined: 3/20/05
Posts: 4985

"pleasantly paralyzed"

9/16/08 2:26:32 PM#34
Originally posted by Syno23

I'm just wanna hear your answers, I'm just gonna be doing RvR guild sieging, but if I can't play 40 hrs a week or more I think that I dunno, just wondering if there was more end game than what I thought

 

You may wish to get out more. They don’t makes games like that anymore. Try EQ1, its got all the time sinks and cockblocks you could want.

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archer75

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Posts: 94

9/16/08 2:33:39 PM#35
Originally posted by LeKinK
Originally posted by Syno23
Originally posted by HiGHPLaiNS
Originally posted by crunchyblack

So the OP is complaining about endgame before they have even gotten there? Granted the op even plays WAR.


 

The Original Poster is using a tactic called:

C Y A = Cover Your Ass

He/She doesnt want to look bad later on down the road by stating he/she plays it, but is not confident in the product.

I'm totally playing this game till the end of time, but I'm just trying to put an end game schedule together, like on Mondays I do this, or Tues I do this, I mean will there be enough end game content for me to play 40 hrs a week or more and not get bored?

dear god...     well the end game raiding/dungeon will only be open once every 3 month i heard?   So imo I think this game wont be for you.

No, there are dungeons. There is at least one 25 man raid. Dungeons are winged like in WoW BC.

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LeKinK

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Joined: 7/12/08
Posts: 624

9/16/08 2:55:57 PM#36
Originally posted by archer75
Originally posted by LeKinK
Originally posted by Syno23
Originally posted by HiGHPLaiNS
Originally posted by crunchyblack

So the OP is complaining about endgame before they have even gotten there? Granted the op even plays WAR.


 

The Original Poster is using a tactic called:

C Y A = Cover Your Ass

He/She doesnt want to look bad later on down the road by stating he/she plays it, but is not confident in the product.

I'm totally playing this game till the end of time, but I'm just trying to put an end game schedule together, like on Mondays I do this, or Tues I do this, I mean will there be enough end game content for me to play 40 hrs a week or more and not get bored?

dear god...     well the end game raiding/dungeon will only be open once every 3 month i heard?   So imo I think this game wont be for you.

No, there are dungeons. There is at least one 25 man raid. Dungeons are winged like in WoW BC.

Yea but they are public oriented or is it more wow-like were you need to wait a few hour before you can go?

you mean instanced when you say winged?

gorguk

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Joined: 10/18/05
Posts: 167

9/16/08 3:02:49 PM#37
Originally posted by Syno23

Let me get straight to the point, this game has very little end game and they've been covering it up for months tryting to get you hyped with the PvP. Umm they arnt covering it up with PvP, this game IS pvp(rvr). But there's honestly nothing to do after level 40 and renown rank 80. Umm go kill the enemy? I guess you have to be a hard core pvper or atleast a old DAoC player like me.. but after I got max level/RA I never got bored of playing that toon. Running around killin the other realms, taking keeps, taking relics was always fun and never got boring.

End Game:

- Crafting I guess if you like to craft rather than gutting your enemy like a fish...

- Guild Sieging You dont have to be in a guild to rvr or help with a siege. Thought id throw that out there.. either way sieging is fun :P

- Enemy capital city Hmm slaugter the enemy, sack his city, kill his king, open locked areas and quests.. im guess im missing the part where thats not fun? lol

- Scenarios (Gonna be tired of them by lvl 40) Then dont do them, do some real rvr.

Have I missed anything, I mean is there really anything else to do, open world RvR is just like guild sieging, so basically this game has empty end game just like the rest of them. If you don't have a guild, don't plan on seeing good end game because there's not. No competition, nothing, and in the end, they may come out with some type of updates, but I'll be still playing Warhammer because I have a guild, I don't know about u guys, nothing really in this game besides guild competition.

No competition? Are you nuts? Order vs Chaos! There will always be competition unless one side suddenly never logs into the game for some reason lol and I dont get what you mean about guild competition, this isnt AoC, this is WAR and its about order vs chaos.. good vs evil.. RVfreakinR! not guild vs guild. Sounds like you want to play a game like WoW or something.. where once you work your ass off to get max level an good gear they slap you in the face with some retarded expantion and make you grind all over again for levels and gear. Personaly I hate that crap. If I wanted to grind again id make a new toon to level up. Annoys the hell out of me they take your hard earned toon and make him suck all over again. WAR does have end game, its called RVR! Thats always what the game has been about. That fact has never been hidden. No one has any right to complain about lack of anything else beyond rvr since you go into the game knowing what its about. Thats like playing hello kitty online an then complaining you cant decapitate fellow players and drink thier blood.

 

dwillpower

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Joined: 6/14/04
Posts: 94

9/16/08 3:08:35 PM#38
Originally posted by gorguk
Originally posted by Syno23

Let me get straight to the point, this game has very little end game and they've been covering it up for months tryting to get you hyped with the PvP. Umm they arnt covering it up with PvP, this game IS pvp(rvr). But there's honestly nothing to do after level 40 and renown rank 80. Umm go kill the enemy? I guess you have to be a hard core pvper or atleast a old DAoC player like me.. but after I got max level/RA I never got bored of playing that toon. Running around killin the other realms, taking keeps, taking relics was always fun and never got boring.

End Game:

- Crafting I guess if you like to craft rather than gutting your enemy like a fish...

- Guild Sieging You dont have to be in a guild to rvr or help with a siege. Thought id throw that out there.. either way sieging is fun :P

- Enemy capital city Hmm slaugter the enemy, sack his city, kill his king, open locked areas and quests.. im guess im missing the part where thats not fun? lol

- Scenarios (Gonna be tired of them by lvl 40) Then dont do them, do some real rvr.

Have I missed anything, I mean is there really anything else to do, open world RvR is just like guild sieging, so basically this game has empty end game just like the rest of them. If you don't have a guild, don't plan on seeing good end game because there's not. No competition, nothing, and in the end, they may come out with some type of updates, but I'll be still playing Warhammer because I have a guild, I don't know about u guys, nothing really in this game besides guild competition.

No competition? Are you nuts? Order vs Chaos! There will always be competition unless one side suddenly never logs into the game for some reason lol and I dont get what you mean about guild competition, this isnt AoC, this is WAR and its about order vs chaos.. good vs evil.. RVfreakinR! not guild vs guild. Sounds like you want to play a game like WoW or something.. where once you work your ass off to get max level an good gear they slap you in the face with some retarded expantion and make you grind all over again for levels and gear. Personaly I hate that crap. If I wanted to grind again id make a new toon to level up. Annoys the hell out of me they take your hard earned toon and make him suck all over again. WAR does have end game, its called RVR! Thats always what the game has been about. That fact has never been hidden. No one has any right to complain about lack of anything else beyond rvr since you go into the game knowing what its about. Thats like playing hello kitty online an then complaining you cant decapitate fellow players and drink thier blood.

 

 

Man worse fanboi response ever.  Crafting is a major end game in MMO's. Maybe people like making things they use on the battlefield.   Pesonally being in closed beta. I do feel the end game isn't going to keep me anymore interested than something like TF2 or COD4  but ithey are  free to play.  Fun to play but not deep. All depends what you are looking for.

CyBloodreign

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Posts: 28

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9/16/08 3:15:55 PM#39
Originally posted by Malickie
Originally posted by Honeymoon69

Op is a very bad troll.
 

Right, because anyone who has a legitimate question is a troll.  Endgame is one of the most important aspects to a lot of people, if there's a lack of it expect many more posts like this one. It hasn't raised any red flags for you, they didn't open up those last two tiers to mass testing?


 

They did open it up for mass testing with the large guild invites plus the already large beta test group. Just because you did not play it does not mean it did not exist. People who like to open beta test are just looking to play a game for free to see if they want to buy and care nothing for the bug finding thier really there for. The end game is not for the WoW guys who like large PvE raids and 40hrs a week of mind numbing 2v2 3v3 5v5 combat.

 

OP____If you are looking for a game where the Devs wait till alot of people get best pvp gear, just so they can trott out some new season of gear to make you start grinding again this game is not for you. I would suggest that you stick with WoW. This is a large group PvP game, wont be any arena gear grinding. But what you will find at end game is a challenging game of tug o war between 2 sides that takes skill and strat to acomplish on even server pops.

If if you make it to ransack a main city you have to get in the city take it over and then the game gives you a set amount of time to acomplish a bunch of goals which will require large guild team work to do. If you manage to did it then you get a sshot at the KING. The explaintion you see in most writes make it seem alot easier than it sounds(TRUST ME)

gorguk

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Posts: 167

9/16/08 3:17:06 PM#40

not a fanboy. doubt i will even play it for atleast a few months after release. got better stuff in RL to do. but they said at the start this game would have very little crafting. so again ya cant really bitch about it to much. since they told you up front. but the stuff you can make is usefull on the battle field so whats the complaint? like i said this game is all about the rvr. next people will bitch they cant go fishing and bake birthday cakes. dude there are TONS of other games with all that type of stuff. just go play one of those and not bitch about a game thats not about such stuff an never pretended to be:P

archer75

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Joined: 1/16/06
Posts: 94

9/16/08 3:19:42 PM#41
Originally posted by LeKinK
Originally posted by archer75
Originally posted by LeKinK
Originally posted by Syno23
Originally posted by HiGHPLaiNS
Originally posted by crunchyblack

So the OP is complaining about endgame before they have even gotten there? Granted the op even plays WAR.


 

The Original Poster is using a tactic called:

C Y A = Cover Your Ass

He/She doesnt want to look bad later on down the road by stating he/she plays it, but is not confident in the product.

I'm totally playing this game till the end of time, but I'm just trying to put an end game schedule together, like on Mondays I do this, or Tues I do this, I mean will there be enough end game content for me to play 40 hrs a week or more and not get bored?

dear god...     well the end game raiding/dungeon will only be open once every 3 month i heard?   So imo I think this game wont be for you.

No, there are dungeons. There is at least one 25 man raid. Dungeons are winged like in WoW BC.

Yea but they are public oriented or is it more wow-like were you need to wait a few hour before you can go?

you mean instanced when you say winged?

 

There are open world(non instanced)  as well as instanced.

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Drolkin

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Posts: 40

9/16/08 3:52:23 PM#42

OMGZ I REMEMBER ALL THE EG CONTENT WOW HAD AT LAUNCH!

 

Remebahz hitting 60 and running around TM/SS and Stormgarde due to the immense amount of EG WOW contenz?

 

WAR SUX!


LOLZ

nobrains8503

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Posts: 113

9/16/08 3:57:20 PM#43

Maybe i missed something in there but how would anyone know the amount of RELEASED end game content since no one has gotten that far yet?

banthis

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Joined: 3/19/07
Posts: 1766

9/16/08 4:01:31 PM#44
Originally posted by LeKinK
Originally posted by archer75

No, there are dungeons. There is at least one 25 man raid. Dungeons are winged like in WoW BC.

Yea but they are public oriented or is it more wow-like were you need to wait a few hour before you can go?

you mean instanced when you say winged?


 

THe dungeons' wings are public as anyone that goes there sees everyone else thats there...The End Boss's how ever are 6 man Private Instances.  Its just getting there thats public.

The only instance that requires more than 6 people is the KIng Encounter..and he's not a Traditional Raid he's a Boss fight that anyone whos in a captured city can group and go too.  There is no 'elite' content like WoW or EQ 1 / 2 are so famous for.

banthis

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9/16/08 4:03:22 PM#45
Originally posted by nobrains8503

Maybe i missed something in there but how would anyone know the amount of RELEASED end game content since no one has gotten that far yet?


 

Because they've talked about it for months, had journalists even experience, and its been heavily tested by beta testers since June maybe even earlier.  

Its current status is under the Elder Tester NDA but the basics are not.

nobrains8503

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Posts: 113

9/16/08 4:03:44 PM#46
Originally posted by banthis
Originally posted by LeKinK
Originally posted by archer75

No, there are dungeons. There is at least one 25 man raid. Dungeons are winged like in WoW BC.

Yea but they are public oriented or is it more wow-like were you need to wait a few hour before you can go?

you mean instanced when you say winged?


 

THe dungeons' wings are public as anyone that goes there sees everyone else thats there...The End Boss's how ever are 6 man Private Instances.  Its just getting there thats public.

The only instance that requires more than 6 people is the KIng Encounter..and he's not a Traditional Raid he's a Boss fight that anyone whos in a captured city can group and go too.  There is no 'elite' content like WoW or EQ 1 / 2 are so famous for.


 

And by this I hope you mean 4 - 8 hours time sinks that net you next to nothing? lol

(I'm on your side here btw)

Jatwhal

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Posts: 155

9/16/08 4:04:32 PM#47

"END GAME"

roflmaopmp

The use of the term end game in an MMORPG       

I would like to state that in no way shape or form that anything I receive from SOE influences my opinion about SWG or their company. I’m pretty much a typical average player enjoying the game.

Syno23

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Joined: 8/18/08
Posts: 955

 
9/16/08 4:05:58 PM#48
Originally posted by nobrains8503

Maybe i missed something in there but how would anyone know the amount of RELEASED end game content since no one has gotten that far yet?

 

they have been talking about it for months, but the thing is I heard about the T4 PvP and stuff. And I was really excited about it, then I realized, it's not like there's gonna be like a 1000 VS 1000 battle it out in T4 lands till one side breaks even

That's really what I visioned PvP end game, but do u really think it's gonna happen?

Mrbloodworth

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Posts: 4985

"pleasantly paralyzed"

9/16/08 4:06:12 PM#49
Originally posted by Malickie
Originally posted by Honeymoon69

Op is a very bad troll.
 

Right, because anyone who has a legitimate question is a troll.  Endgame is one of the most important aspects to a lot of people, if there's a lack of it expect many more posts like this one. It hasn't raised any red flags for you, they didn't open up those last two tiers to mass testing?

 

There was a question?

 

Humm..

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How are you?" -Me

Locklain

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9/16/08 4:09:27 PM#50
Originally posted by Syno23
Originally posted by nobrains8503

Maybe i missed something in there but how would anyone know the amount of RELEASED end game content since no one has gotten that far yet?

 

they have been talking about it for months, but the thing is I heard about the T4 PvP and stuff. And I was really excited about it, then I realized, it's not like there's gonna be like a 1000 VS 1000 battle it out in T4 lands till one side breaks even

That's really what I visioned PvP end game, but do u really think it's gonna happen?

Not a thousand, but here is a pick of just Order players gathering around in The Maw.

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