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Loke666

Elite Member

Joined: 10/29/07
Posts: 3414

9/14/08 1:20:19 AM#26

Actually, most of Wows PVP wasn't in from start and appeared a few months after Guildwars release.

But Wow didn't bring so much new things, it stole the good things from other games and made a succesful game with that. Just like most other game companies are doing now with wow. Wow was also perfect in time, have brilliant concept art and an amazing way to get new players who never before played an MMO. Blizzard do know what they are doing, few other companies have made so many succesful game as them (even though I never liked their expansions for some reason, they make a brilliant game and a crappy expansion).

Wow is however getting very old and it is time for something completly new, something that can do what games like Half-life, Diablo, Starcraft, Baldurs gate, Neverwinter nights, Doom and so on did for their game types once upon a time... But what it is? Who knows.

Maybe Blizzards next game will be something totaly new, or maybe Bioware or someone else will make it but Wow have contributed a lot to the genre, like UO, Meridian 59 and EQ did before it (and maybe the first Linage too).

VengeSunsoar

Advanced Member

Joined: 3/10/04
Posts: 415

Quit worrying about other players in a game and just play.

9/14/08 1:26:09 AM#27

Well it may not have brought anything technical to the genre, but it did bring a few million new people *grins*

Venge Sunsoar

deathdude360

Novice Member

Joined: 3/11/04
Posts: 23

9/14/08 4:11:33 AM#28
Originally posted by woody1974

I agree WOW is a fun game, I still have my account active, but I haven't played for 3 weeks now, but there is a huge misunderstanding on WOW's Subscriber numbers. I think WOW has about 3 - 4 million actual subscribers and about 3 million actively playing and 6-7 million farming accounts, plus just because there are all these subscribers, it doesn't mean that many are even playing. Alot of people have their accounts active it doesn't mean that there is 10 million people playing.

The last time I played there were hardly a person to be seen in alot of the pre-bc zones...shrug..maybe it was just the server I was on. I honestly just don't think there are 10 million active subscribe players, I don't think there is an accurate number, don't get me wrong WOW has people playing, WOW is fun, just don't think the numbers are accurate.

Every other game I can think of (lol, AoC anyone?) is counting their "inactive" and Gold/Plat/Whatever farming subscribers, why shouldn't WoW?

 

Come to think of it, even TV networks do it with viewers. just because it's on, doesn't mean you're watching it, yet they still count you.

Wolfkrone

Novice Member

Joined: 8/19/08
Posts: 124

9/14/08 5:36:29 AM#29

Whats the point of introducing 10 Million new players to the MMORPG scene when 5 million of them are Chinese gold farmers? I also forgot to mention the majority of the other 4-5 million are immature little brats? Not all WoW players are stupid but WoW did introduce a lot of the 'stupid crowd' to the MMORPG scene.

Of course, though, WoW did do good, it's the reason there are so many MMORPG's around today. As most WoW players tend to 'look for more' after a year or two in WoW. It's also produced a pretty good South Park episode, that's something no other MMORPG has done.

Tried: WoW
Played: EQ, EQII, AO, SWG, NGE-SWG, LoTRO, WAR, Vanguard, Eve, WWIIOL, Guild Wars, Darkfall, AoC.
Playing: DAoC.
Waiting For: SW:TOR.

jason_webb

Hard Core Member

Joined: 10/03/03
Posts: 982

9/14/08 5:48:56 AM#30


Originally posted by Wolfkrone
Whats the point of introducing 10 Million new players to the MMORPG scene when 5 million of them are Chinese gold farmers? I also forgot to mention the majority of the other 4-5 million are immature little brats? Not all WoW players are stupid but WoW did introduce a lot of the 'stupid crowd' to the MMORPG scene.

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!

You have produced the most Ill-informed, racist and generally offensive post i have seen in a long time!!

....and in such a small paragraph too, good work!

It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays.

Wolfkrone

Novice Member

Joined: 8/19/08
Posts: 124

9/14/08 5:51:59 AM#31
Originally posted by jason_webb

 


Originally posted by Wolfkrone
Whats the point of introducing 10 Million new players to the MMORPG scene when 5 million of them are Chinese gold farmers? I also forgot to mention the majority of the other 4-5 million are immature little brats? Not all WoW players are stupid but WoW did introduce a lot of the 'stupid crowd' to the MMORPG scene.

 

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!

You have produced the most Ill-informed, racist and generally offensive post i have seen in a long time!!

....and in such a small paragraph too, good work!

 

It's racist to say that the majority of Gold Farmers are from Asia, oh, I thought it was truth. And it DID introduce the stupid crowd to MMORPG's. I'm willing to forgive it though, I liked that South Park episode.

Tried: WoW
Played: EQ, EQII, AO, SWG, NGE-SWG, LoTRO, WAR, Vanguard, Eve, WWIIOL, Guild Wars, Darkfall, AoC.
Playing: DAoC.
Waiting For: SW:TOR.

SgtFrog

Advanced Member

Joined: 6/17/08
Posts: 3219

Yes, i am a talking frog

9/14/08 5:52:34 AM#32
Originally posted by jason_webb

 


Originally posted by Wolfkrone
Whats the point of introducing 10 Million new players to the MMORPG scene when 5 million of them are Chinese gold farmers? I also forgot to mention the majority of the other 4-5 million are immature little brats? Not all WoW players are stupid but WoW did introduce a lot of the 'stupid crowd' to the MMORPG scene.

 

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!

You have produced the most Ill-informed, racist and generally offensive post i have seen in a long time!!

....and in such a small paragraph too, good work!

 

he says that half the wow players are immature little brats...

but his post is immature...and probably written by a little brat :)

little ironic..

Playing:
SWG
Twi'lek Bounty Hunter
Sharn'ak Loki of the FarStar(Europe)server

EQ2
Kerra Necromancer
Sharrrnak of the Antonia Bayle server

Wolfkrone

Novice Member

Joined: 8/19/08
Posts: 124

9/14/08 5:55:20 AM#33
Originally posted by SgtFrog
Originally posted by jason_webb

 


Originally posted by Wolfkrone
Whats the point of introducing 10 Million new players to the MMORPG scene when 5 million of them are Chinese gold farmers? I also forgot to mention the majority of the other 4-5 million are immature little brats? Not all WoW players are stupid but WoW did introduce a lot of the 'stupid crowd' to the MMORPG scene.

 

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!

You have produced the most Ill-informed, racist and generally offensive post i have seen in a long time!!

....and in such a small paragraph too, good work!

 

he says that half the wow players are immature little brats...

but his post is immature...and probably written by a little brat :)

little ironic..

 

Actually, I stated the MAJORITY of the half of non-Asian WoW players are immature. It's quite accurate, for every good person you know who plays WoW there is typically a few retards.

Why are you guys attacking me, I'm on your side!

World of Warcraft HAS done some positive things for the MMORPG scene.

Tried: WoW
Played: EQ, EQII, AO, SWG, NGE-SWG, LoTRO, WAR, Vanguard, Eve, WWIIOL, Guild Wars, Darkfall, AoC.
Playing: DAoC.
Waiting For: SW:TOR.

jason_webb

Hard Core Member

Joined: 10/03/03
Posts: 982

9/14/08 5:58:59 AM#34


Originally posted by Wolfkrone

It's racist to say that the majority of Gold Farmers are from Asia, oh, I thought it was truth. And it DID introduce the stupid crowd to MMORPG's. I'm willing to forgive it though, I liked that South Park episode.


OK, i'll bite, just link me to your evidence to substantiate your statements as 'truth' or fact?

....oh, good call on the "for every good person you know who plays WoW there is typically a few retards." statement too, if you missed offending anyone with your previous post, you probably got them with that one!

It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays.

SgtFrog

Advanced Member

Joined: 6/17/08
Posts: 3219

Yes, i am a talking frog

9/14/08 6:00:15 AM#35
Originally posted by Wolfkrone
Originally posted by SgtFrog
Originally posted by jason_webb

 


Originally posted by Wolfkrone
Whats the point of introducing 10 Million new players to the MMORPG scene when 5 million of them are Chinese gold farmers? I also forgot to mention the majority of the other 4-5 million are immature little brats? Not all WoW players are stupid but WoW did introduce a lot of the 'stupid crowd' to the MMORPG scene.

 

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!

You have produced the most Ill-informed, racist and generally offensive post i have seen in a long time!!

....and in such a small paragraph too, good work!

 

he says that half the wow players are immature little brats...

but his post is immature...and probably written by a little brat :)

little ironic..

 

Actually, I stated the MAJORITY of the half of non-Asian WoW players are immature. It's quite accurate, for every good person you know who plays WoW there is typically a few retards.

every mmo has immature players and every mmo has gold farmers so this post is still a fail.

Playing:
SWG
Twi'lek Bounty Hunter
Sharn'ak Loki of the FarStar(Europe)server

EQ2
Kerra Necromancer
Sharrrnak of the Antonia Bayle server

Threetowns

Apprentice Member

Joined: 10/03/04
Posts: 277

9/14/08 8:36:53 AM#36

 

WOW was Awesome in my eyes !

I was there when they had stress test !

I was there when they Open up the servers day 1 !

I was there up to May 2008 !

Why did i leave WOW ?

Reason is that its become a gear base game, and It just lost the luster in my eyes after we got was Areans and Twinks in Battle ground.

I wish everyone just pick a game that makes you happy ! 

It's your money !

Just stop this hate, were all gamers looking for a place to call Home!

Don't matter what game you play, 

I will respect that ! 

So i Salute you all !

 

 

Lustmord

Apprentice Member

Joined: 12/21/05
Posts: 439

9/14/08 11:06:25 AM#37

Actually, WoW brought alot in terms of control to the market.

 

LoS Requirements on Spell Casting, Target-Over Spell Casting...

 

They brought Abilties to Warriors, who previously were only Auto-Attack + Taunt.

 

They brought a combo system to rogues.

 

 

Kabbax

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/21/08
Posts: 280

9/14/08 8:24:07 PM#38
Originally posted by Threetowns

 

WOW was Awesome in my eyes !

I was there when they had stress test !

I was there when they Open up the servers day 1 !

I was there up to May 2008 !

Why did i leave WOW ?

Reason is that its become a gear base game, and It just lost the luster in my eyes after we got was Areans and Twinks in Battle ground.

I wish everyone just pick a game that makes you happy ! 

It's your money !

Just stop this hate, were all gamers looking for a place to call Home!

Don't matter what game you play, 

I will respect that ! 

So i Salute you all !

 

 

 

QFT

 

Game on!

"The public is wonderfully tolerant. It forgives everything except genius."
-Oscar Wilde

Jetrpg

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/22/06
Posts: 1316

9/14/08 8:25:46 PM#39

It did bring something. The blizzard name, easy easy questing.

"Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one ..." - Thomas Paine

abyss610

Elite Member

Joined: 4/29/06
Posts: 639

9/14/08 8:30:59 PM#40

if nothing else they did bring a more casual game where others before it required you to quit your job and live in your parents basement just to lvl up. other games prior to it REQUIRED you to group just to lvl up.needing a group to do dungeons and what not is one thing, needing a full group to lvl grind sucked,you did get to know people alot better that way but it sux when you wanna play your dmg dealer and can't get a damn group.

cooms

Novice Member

Joined: 1/24/05
Posts: 162

stop now and think you aborted fetus..

9/14/08 8:36:09 PM#41

Wow brought nothing but a collection of good ideas and put them into 1 game. I would say that brought a lot to gaming. Because of them we are getting higher and higher quality (at least attempts) to make better games. I plan on playing WAR but i wont turn my back on wow as you cannot disput 10.9 million subs no matter where they come from.

cooms Xfire Miniprofile
Trianon

Novice Member

Joined: 7/02/04
Posts: 114

9/15/08 5:40:13 AM#42
Originally posted by cooms

Wow brought nothing but a collection of good ideas and put them into 1 game. I would say that brought a lot to gaming. Because of them we are getting higher and higher quality (at least attempts) to make better games. I plan on playing WAR but i wont turn my back on wow as you cannot disput 10.9 million subs no matter where they come from.

 

 

Agreed, WoW was (and is) a good game, a collection of existing ideas wrapped up in the Warcraft mythos and well marketed, WAR/AOC/EQ2 etc will not change that fact. There is now a huge (and expanding) fan base of MMORPG's that other games can draw on.

shinobi234

Novice Member

Joined: 9/09/07
Posts: 91

bye XD

9/15/08 7:27:57 AM#43

wow brought nothing new who cares lol its just making money like any other company they brought you content so we all can stick like glue to the game.if you want to complain a mobe how wow brought nothing new to gaming go ahead i dont think any one cares :)

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Hazmal

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Joined: 1/30/08
Posts: 1063

If you can read this post, it means admins didn''t rickroll me again.

9/15/08 2:38:54 PM#44
Originally posted by jason_webb

 


Originally posted by Wolfkrone

 

It's racist to say that the majority of Gold Farmers are from Asia, oh, I thought it was truth. And it DID introduce the stupid crowd to MMORPG's. I'm willing to forgive it though, I liked that South Park episode.


 

OK, i'll bite, just link me to your evidence to substantiate your statements as 'truth' or fact?

....oh, good call on the "for every good person you know who plays WoW there is typically a few retards." statement too, if you missed offending anyone with your previous post, you probably got them with that one!


 

I hate the politically-correct era...the ever-change list of "offensive" language and labels for the tender population.  Some people won't be happy until everything is censored and then we can all enjoy a sterile life.

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