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  Gothikaboy

Novice Member

Joined: 12/08/07
Posts: 108

9/13/08 11:29:54 AM#21
Originally posted by vardar

All i read is how this is a knock off to wow, that game didnt bring nothing new to the table, this game is the same as the other.......what did WoW bring that was new, the only thing they brought to to gaming world is a negative one, they down graded the gaming community, making games  simplistic, which has a ripple effect to other games now, Wow is a huge knock off other previous games before its time, Just starting to get annoyed from other gamers that have not experienced any other games before Wow came out, you have a bunch of virgins telling everyone else about games....

Your post is just stupid.

There were MMORPG's before wow, correct.

But! WoW have MANY things thats new, but also things from other MMORPG's, also it is combined. if UO have one thing and EQ another, wow have both.

Also, wow puts a whole new level in PvE Raiding and PvP Battles at the same time.

You can't say wow brought nothing new. It's just not true ;)

Please do not hype any gam.. oh wait, nevermind... forgot what forum I was on.

  Boreil

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Joined: 1/13/06
Posts: 318

9/13/08 11:37:07 AM#22
Originally posted by Gothikaboy
Originally posted by vardar

All i read is how this is a knock off to wow, that game didnt bring nothing new to the table, this game is the same as the other.......what did WoW bring that was new, the only thing they brought to to gaming world is a negative one, they down graded the gaming community, making games  simplistic, which has a ripple effect to other games now, Wow is a huge knock off other previous games before its time, Just starting to get annoyed from other gamers that have not experienced any other games before Wow came out, you have a bunch of virgins telling everyone else about games....

Your post is just stupid.

There were MMORPG's before wow, correct.

But! WoW have MANY things other MMORPG's, also it is combined. if UO came up whit one thing and EQ another, wow have both.

Also, wow puts a whole new level in PvE Raiding and PvP Battles at the same time.

You can't say wow brought nothing new. It's just not true ;)

WoW didnt bring a new level of raiding or pvp to anything , the raiding was copy from Eq they even said so, its normal raiding standard  scripted boss events wow did nothing new for raiding  and the pvp is nothing more than a flag cap  or deathmatch , wow actualy brought less than nothing to pvp, it didnt even copy the good stuff like it did with raiding  heh.

  bleyzwun

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Joined: 8/29/05
Posts: 1013

9/13/08 11:42:12 AM#23

Blizzard made an incredibly polished game.  I don't think there was a game that ran as smooth as WoW before then.  I dunno about you guys, but every MMO before WoW (that I played) was very clunky in comparison.  It was also the first to allow running while in combat (again, as far as I know).  I always thought it was stupid to have to stand still in combat.

Anyway,  you can thank WoW for setting a standard when it comes to polish.  I don't think many developers will release a half assed game, especially after AoC, TR, etc.  If WAR does well, you can definitely expect more developers to follow WoW's lead. 

Btw, I'm not talking about copying WoW, or trying to be WoW2.  All I'm talking about is a game that is fluid, or smooth, with all major bugs fixed by release. 

  OutSoldOut

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Joined: 5/06/07
Posts: 18

9/14/08 12:04:09 AM#24

All MMOS are mostly clones of older games. That doesn't mean WoW wasn't a fun game, it was. It was solo friendly, easy to play and the grind was well done through quests and instances. It took the formula and made it more fun. I don't get why WAR gets so much crap for doing essentially the same thing with PvP.  I guess alot of people started playing them with WoW and don't necesarily realise that MMOs are developed in a progression from older games.

MMOs and Consoles seem to be the worst places for people getting mad that other people are having fun with something else. I'm not sure why.

  Loke666

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Joined: 10/29/07
Posts: 13291

9/14/08 12:20:19 AM#25

Actually, most of Wows PVP wasn't in from start and appeared a few months after Guildwars release.

But Wow didn't bring so much new things, it stole the good things from other games and made a succesful game with that. Just like most other game companies are doing now with wow. Wow was also perfect in time, have brilliant concept art and an amazing way to get new players who never before played an MMO. Blizzard do know what they are doing, few other companies have made so many succesful game as them (even though I never liked their expansions for some reason, they make a brilliant game and a crappy expansion).

Wow is however getting very old and it is time for something completly new, something that can do what games like Half-life, Diablo, Starcraft, Baldurs gate, Neverwinter nights, Doom and so on did for their game types once upon a time... But what it is? Who knows.

Maybe Blizzards next game will be something totaly new, or maybe Bioware or someone else will make it but Wow have contributed a lot to the genre, like UO, Meridian 59 and EQ did before it (and maybe the first Linage too).

  VengeSunsoar

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Joined: 3/10/04
Posts: 1488

GRIND DOES NOT EXIST. IT IS ENTIRELY YOUR PERCEPTION.

9/14/08 12:26:09 AM#26

Well it may not have brought anything technical to the genre, but it did bring a few million new people *grins*

Venge Sunsoar

You know, in ancient Egypt. One of the hieroglyphics on the walls of the pyramids actually says 'I am upset as my heir will ruin my kingdom' or something to that affect.

This is 5000BC stuff and you know what? Nothing has changed. :P

  deathdude360

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Joined: 3/11/04
Posts: 23

9/14/08 3:11:33 AM#27
Originally posted by woody1974

I agree WOW is a fun game, I still have my account active, but I haven't played for 3 weeks now, but there is a huge misunderstanding on WOW's Subscriber numbers. I think WOW has about 3 - 4 million actual subscribers and about 3 million actively playing and 6-7 million farming accounts, plus just because there are all these subscribers, it doesn't mean that many are even playing. Alot of people have their accounts active it doesn't mean that there is 10 million people playing.

The last time I played there were hardly a person to be seen in alot of the pre-bc zones...shrug..maybe it was just the server I was on. I honestly just don't think there are 10 million active subscribe players, I don't think there is an accurate number, don't get me wrong WOW has people playing, WOW is fun, just don't think the numbers are accurate.

Every other game I can think of (lol, AoC anyone?) is counting their "inactive" and Gold/Plat/Whatever farming subscribers, why shouldn't WoW?

 

Come to think of it, even TV networks do it with viewers. just because it's on, doesn't mean you're watching it, yet they still count you.

  Wolfkrone

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Joined: 8/19/08
Posts: 124

9/14/08 4:36:29 AM#28

Whats the point of introducing 10 Million new players to the MMORPG scene when 5 million of them are Chinese gold farmers? I also forgot to mention the majority of the other 4-5 million are immature little brats? Not all WoW players are stupid but WoW did introduce a lot of the 'stupid crowd' to the MMORPG scene.

Of course, though, WoW did do good, it's the reason there are so many MMORPG's around today. As most WoW players tend to 'look for more' after a year or two in WoW. It's also produced a pretty good South Park episode, that's something no other MMORPG has done.

Tried: WoW
Played: EQ, EQII, AO, SWG, NGE-SWG, LoTRO, WAR, Vanguard, Eve, WWIIOL, Guild Wars, Darkfall, AoC.
Playing: DAoC.
Waiting For: SW:TOR.

  jason_webb

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Joined: 10/03/03
Posts: 1229

9/14/08 4:48:56 AM#29


Originally posted by Wolfkrone
Whats the point of introducing 10 Million new players to the MMORPG scene when 5 million of them are Chinese gold farmers? I also forgot to mention the majority of the other 4-5 million are immature little brats? Not all WoW players are stupid but WoW did introduce a lot of the 'stupid crowd' to the MMORPG scene.

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!

You have produced the most Ill-informed, racist and generally offensive post i have seen in a long time!!

....and in such a small paragraph too, good work!

It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays.

  Wolfkrone

Novice Member

Joined: 8/19/08
Posts: 124

9/14/08 4:51:59 AM#30
Originally posted by jason_webb

 


Originally posted by Wolfkrone
Whats the point of introducing 10 Million new players to the MMORPG scene when 5 million of them are Chinese gold farmers? I also forgot to mention the majority of the other 4-5 million are immature little brats? Not all WoW players are stupid but WoW did introduce a lot of the 'stupid crowd' to the MMORPG scene.

 

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!

You have produced the most Ill-informed, racist and generally offensive post i have seen in a long time!!

....and in such a small paragraph too, good work!

 

It's racist to say that the majority of Gold Farmers are from Asia, oh, I thought it was truth. And it DID introduce the stupid crowd to MMORPG's. I'm willing to forgive it though, I liked that South Park episode.

Tried: WoW
Played: EQ, EQII, AO, SWG, NGE-SWG, LoTRO, WAR, Vanguard, Eve, WWIIOL, Guild Wars, Darkfall, AoC.
Playing: DAoC.
Waiting For: SW:TOR.

  User Deleted
9/14/08 4:52:34 AM#31
Originally posted by jason_webb

 


Originally posted by Wolfkrone
Whats the point of introducing 10 Million new players to the MMORPG scene when 5 million of them are Chinese gold farmers? I also forgot to mention the majority of the other 4-5 million are immature little brats? Not all WoW players are stupid but WoW did introduce a lot of the 'stupid crowd' to the MMORPG scene.

 

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!

You have produced the most Ill-informed, racist and generally offensive post i have seen in a long time!!

....and in such a small paragraph too, good work!

 

he says that half the wow players are immature little brats...

but his post is immature...and probably written by a little brat :)

little ironic..

  Wolfkrone

Novice Member

Joined: 8/19/08
Posts: 124

9/14/08 4:55:20 AM#32
Originally posted by SgtFrog
Originally posted by jason_webb

 


Originally posted by Wolfkrone
Whats the point of introducing 10 Million new players to the MMORPG scene when 5 million of them are Chinese gold farmers? I also forgot to mention the majority of the other 4-5 million are immature little brats? Not all WoW players are stupid but WoW did introduce a lot of the 'stupid crowd' to the MMORPG scene.

 

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!

You have produced the most Ill-informed, racist and generally offensive post i have seen in a long time!!

....and in such a small paragraph too, good work!

 

he says that half the wow players are immature little brats...

but his post is immature...and probably written by a little brat :)

little ironic..

 

Actually, I stated the MAJORITY of the half of non-Asian WoW players are immature. It's quite accurate, for every good person you know who plays WoW there is typically a few retards.

Why are you guys attacking me, I'm on your side!

World of Warcraft HAS done some positive things for the MMORPG scene.

Tried: WoW
Played: EQ, EQII, AO, SWG, NGE-SWG, LoTRO, WAR, Vanguard, Eve, WWIIOL, Guild Wars, Darkfall, AoC.
Playing: DAoC.
Waiting For: SW:TOR.

  jason_webb

Hard Core Member

Joined: 10/03/03
Posts: 1229

9/14/08 4:58:59 AM#33


Originally posted by Wolfkrone

It's racist to say that the majority of Gold Farmers are from Asia, oh, I thought it was truth. And it DID introduce the stupid crowd to MMORPG's. I'm willing to forgive it though, I liked that South Park episode.


OK, i'll bite, just link me to your evidence to substantiate your statements as 'truth' or fact?

....oh, good call on the "for every good person you know who plays WoW there is typically a few retards." statement too, if you missed offending anyone with your previous post, you probably got them with that one!

It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays.

  User Deleted
9/14/08 5:00:15 AM#34
Originally posted by Wolfkrone
Originally posted by SgtFrog
Originally posted by jason_webb

 


Originally posted by Wolfkrone
Whats the point of introducing 10 Million new players to the MMORPG scene when 5 million of them are Chinese gold farmers? I also forgot to mention the majority of the other 4-5 million are immature little brats? Not all WoW players are stupid but WoW did introduce a lot of the 'stupid crowd' to the MMORPG scene.

 

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!

You have produced the most Ill-informed, racist and generally offensive post i have seen in a long time!!

....and in such a small paragraph too, good work!

 

he says that half the wow players are immature little brats...

but his post is immature...and probably written by a little brat :)

little ironic..

 

Actually, I stated the MAJORITY of the half of non-Asian WoW players are immature. It's quite accurate, for every good person you know who plays WoW there is typically a few retards.

every mmo has immature players and every mmo has gold farmers so this post is still a fail.

  Threetowns

Novice Member

Joined: 10/03/04
Posts: 306

9/14/08 7:36:53 AM#35

 

WOW was Awesome in my eyes !

I was there when they had stress test !

I was there when they Open up the servers day 1 !

I was there up to May 2008 !

Why did i leave WOW ?

Reason is that its become a gear base game, and It just lost the luster in my eyes after we got was Areans and Twinks in Battle ground.

I wish everyone just pick a game that makes you happy ! 

It's your money !

Just stop this hate, were all gamers looking for a place to call Home!

Don't matter what game you play, 

I will respect that ! 

So i Salute you all !

 

 

  Lustmord

Apprentice Member

Joined: 12/21/05
Posts: 530

9/14/08 10:06:25 AM#36

Actually, WoW brought alot in terms of control to the market.

 

LoS Requirements on Spell Casting, Target-Over Spell Casting...

 

They brought Abilties to Warriors, who previously were only Auto-Attack + Taunt.

 

They brought a combo system to rogues.

 

 

  Kabbax

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Joined: 7/21/08
Posts: 280

9/14/08 7:24:07 PM#37
Originally posted by Threetowns

 

WOW was Awesome in my eyes !

I was there when they had stress test !

I was there when they Open up the servers day 1 !

I was there up to May 2008 !

Why did i leave WOW ?

Reason is that its become a gear base game, and It just lost the luster in my eyes after we got was Areans and Twinks in Battle ground.

I wish everyone just pick a game that makes you happy ! 

It's your money !

Just stop this hate, were all gamers looking for a place to call Home!

Don't matter what game you play, 

I will respect that ! 

So i Salute you all !

 

 

 

QFT

 

Game on!

"The public is wonderfully tolerant. It forgives everything except genius."
-Oscar Wilde

  Jetrpg

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Joined: 4/22/06
Posts: 2199

9/14/08 7:25:46 PM#38

It did bring something. The blizzard name, easy easy questing.

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  User Deleted
9/14/08 7:30:59 PM#39

if nothing else they did bring a more casual game where others before it required you to quit your job and live in your parents basement just to lvl up. other games prior to it REQUIRED you to group just to lvl up.needing a group to do dungeons and what not is one thing, needing a full group to lvl grind sucked,you did get to know people alot better that way but it sux when you wanna play your dmg dealer and can't get a damn group.

  cooms

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9/14/08 7:36:09 PM#40

Wow brought nothing but a collection of good ideas and put them into 1 game. I would say that brought a lot to gaming. Because of them we are getting higher and higher quality (at least attempts) to make better games. I plan on playing WAR but i wont turn my back on wow as you cannot disput 10.9 million subs no matter where they come from.

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