So to those of you who dont know.  Resilence is a PvP stat that reduces the chance you get crit, reduces dot damage, reduces crit damage, and reduces the amount of mana lost of a mana burn and such.

In Wrath they are adding some gear with serious resilence.  Some pieces have 50+ on it, and the max resilence count is up in the 700's.  The max CURRENTLY is something like 490.  With 490 resil, you are basicly uncrittable and almost any class becomes like a tank.  Also in the xpack, A lot of the gear, for pallys for example, has over 100 stamina on it.  For those who dont know, thats 1000 hp on a single piece of gear.  My friend had 19.5k unbuffed with his gear in the beta.

I think adding so much more resilence will seriously break pvp more then it is already broken.  With 700 resilence, You will NOT crit, your dots will do half damage, and mana burns and such do a fourth of the mana burned.

While I do think gear from raiding Arthas will have absoutly INSANE amounts of stamina on it..  I can put up with that because most classes will get a major hp buff.. But 22k hp with 750 resil seems like a 30 minute fight to me.

Just my two cents.

Talk about gear centric.

I'm very glad i left.  And they said the gear jump wouldn't be as big as in BC lmfao.

Take out crits from the game and problem solved, its a useless mechanic anyways.

Originally posted by PapaLazarou

Take out crits from the game and problem solved, its a useless mechanic anyways.

I laughed.

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Originally posted by PapaLazarou
Take out crits from the game and problem solved, its a useless mechanic anyways.

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/facepalm

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I seriously don't see the need for crits I mean all it does is add luck into the game.

OP, i don't see what you're worrying about. Resilience is a rating and thus at level 80 750 resilience will probly be equivalent to ~400 at 70. People will have more health, but will more than likely be negated by the fact that they can do more damage. I doubt anything will change.

Resilience and HP may be doubled, but so is damage, crits and res scaling with level.700 Resilience at 80 may be pretty low, you don't really know how it will scale with level and the cap will still be there.

Nothing to worry about really..

See, there's this thing called luck. It does NOT balance out in the end. I was helping someone farm their PvP achievements. Crits in arena makes each tick 80% luck, unless you manage to get a team that is vastly stacked. Buts its arena so they should scramble quickly enough. Literally, playing in arena with crits (aka luck) on is like rolling a dice. Its really not fun the 30th time.

Ugh, more of the same. They really need a new lead design.

Originally posted by Chiram

Ugh, more of the same. They really need a new lead design.

if it aint broke...

Please go play Warhammer.. they have a resilliance stat also.

And as other have pointed out..   scaling works from 70-80 the same as it works from 60-70.     700 Res will give you the same percentage at 80, as 450 Res gave you at 70.   It's the same as Crit, Hit, Block, Parry, Dodge etc...  if you keep the same gear, it will become less effective as you level.

No amount of STA or Resilience is gonna change the grindfest and sub-par PvP.

WoW has delivered all of the stats with gear that they have no room for further gear additions.

Increase the HP, increase the mana, increase the +damage.... and let the crowds fight for gear again and again, till the next big patch comes in. That's what happens if you make a full gear centric game. No skill, just gear.

Master and servants.

Originally posted by Xtort

WoW has delivered all of the stats with gear that they have no room for further gear additions.

Increase the HP, increase the mana, increase the +damage.... and let the crowds fight for gear again and again, till the next big patch comes in. That's what happens if you make a full gear centric game. No skill, just gear.

Master and servants.

That's why I prefer those MMO's that don't want to keep you playing for as long as possible.  You know, the ones that don't exist.

Originally posted by Crose

That's why I prefer those MMO's that don't want to keep you playing for as long as possible.  You know, the ones that don't exist.

In Guild Wars the importance of gear was less than 5%.

In LOTRO the importance of gear was less than it was in WoW.

I am sure there are more MMOs where gear is not the only deciding factor of the outcome of a battle.

Just as an example, the entry level epics in the new version of naxx; typical values for a spell damage weapon are around 400 spellpower, the equivalent from kara is around 200 spellpower.

Theres also a lot of armour penetration on melee/ranged physical weaponry and armour.

As others have said it will balance out.

Originally posted by NagelFire

 Also in the xpack, A lot of the gear, for pallys for example, has over 100 stamina on it.  For those who dont know, thats 1000 hp on a single piece of gear.  My friend had 19.5k unbuffed with his gear in the beta.

There are already a number of level 70 pallys running around that break the 20K HP level.  Even without full raid buffs.  What you are talking about doesn't seem like that crazy of a jump.

Originally posted by NagelFire

While I do think gear from raiding Arthas will have absoutly INSANE amounts of stamina on it..  I can put up with that because most classes will get a major hp buff.. But 22k hp with 750 resil seems like a 30 minute fight to me.

Just my two cents.

Are you sure you are going to be able to get both the stamina and resilience at the same time?  Maybe you can hit 22k OR 750 resilience, but not both?  I don't know, I'm just asking.