Originally posted by fingis

I wanted LOTRO's RP stuff, the story line, the lore, the music, and the outfits.

I wanted WoW's raiding, WoW's PvP features, stealth, fear, feign death, charge, blink and so on.

WoW and LOTRO's execellent PvE questing.

And WAR's RvR.

I expected WAR to have all this.

Why does WAR have so little? People keep telling me that minimalism is good. I don't see it. I expect more from a new game, not less that games that are four years old.

Lets see here... why doesnt WAR have the features of WoW and LOTR:O... hrmmm...

Oh oh! I know!... Because... ITS WAR?!... Not WoW/LOTR:O.

I was hoping for a good game based in the Warhammer universe, and so far, I got that.

*eats some popcorn while everyone continues to feed the troll* I've been watching you guys for nearly two weeks feed this guy ammunition he must be loving every moment of the attention so I suppose I can add to it.

WAR has so much more going for it than the lame Carrot Stick Raids of WoW and the useless RP features of Lord of the Rings.  Don't get me wrong LoTRO has alot going for it and its the perfect setting for some fantasy RP but this is WAR ... Warhammer ... set in a time of a Great War I mean honestly do we need to run around worrying about what our hair styles are like?  Besides not even Lord of the Rings had alot of their great RP features at launch who's to say that WAR might not add something like that in later on?  Asking for everything and a bag of chips results in alot of crap not workign at launch that needs to while the fluff works.

WAR is an Achiever's dream game with the ToK.  Not only does it track kills, deaths and discoveries but it unlocks a ton of stuff over time.   You can earn unique cloaks, pocket items (trophy like items for pocket slots, yes those 'bag' slots on your toons paper doll screen are trophy slots *gasp*), trophies, tactics, and more.  None of these items are achievable over night either.

WAR's pvp system is fantastic...there's been such lame gank or worthless pvp in MMOs for years.  There's plenty of CC in WAR its just not the I make you unable to play yoru toon forever CC which is completely over powered and hated by most pvpers.  Who honestly finds it fun to stay stun locked and die?  Sure the scenarios are nothing fancy at Tier one...but as you go up in levels they get more complicated and wild to boot.  The Open RvR is the pure cake though...by Tier 2 you see your first keep and its incredibly important for you to have that keep as the Renown Vendors will only appear in the Keeps at Tier 2 and above. 

The list is kinda huge..there's achievements out the wazzu, public fantastically huge dungeons (i've seen one they're awsome as hell blows WoW's craptastic ones away in my opinion), the Renown System, the Guild System, the City System (lots of quests and wild things to do the city is very living!), the Sieging, the Scenarios, the PQ's, Lairs, hidden quests....oh the mass of things to do..I shall be very busy the rest of this year.

Originally posted by elvenangel

*eats some popcorn while everyone continues to feed the troll* I've been watching you guys for nearly two weeks feed this guy ammunition he must be loving every moment of the attention so I suppose I can add to it.

WAR has so much more going for it than the lame Carrot Stick Raids of WoW and the useless RP features of Lord of the Rings.  Don't get me wrong LoTRO has alot going for it and its the perfect setting for some fantasy RP but this is WAR ... Warhammer ... set in a time of a Great War I mean honestly do we need to run around worrying about what our hair styles are like?  Besides not even Lord of the Rings had alot of their great RP features at launch who's to say that WAR might not add something like that in later on?  Asking for everything and a bag of chips results in alot of crap not workign at launch that needs to while the fluff works.

WAR is an Achiever's dream game with the ToK.  Not only does it track kills, deaths and discoveries but it unlocks a ton of stuff over time.   You can earn unique cloaks, pocket items (trophy like items for pocket slots, yes those 'bag' slots on your toons paper doll screen are trophy slots *gasp*), trophies, tactics, and more.  None of these items are achievable over night either.

WAR's pvp system is fantastic...there's been such lame gank or worthless pvp in MMOs for years.  There's plenty of CC in WAR its just not the I make you unable to play yoru toon forever CC which is completely over powered and hated by most pvpers.  Who honestly finds it fun to stay stun locked and die?  Sure the scenarios are nothing fancy at Tier one...but as you go up in levels they get more complicated and wild to boot.  The Open RvR is the pure cake though...by Tier 2 you see your first keep and its incredibly important for you to have that keep as the Renown Vendors will only appear in the Keeps at Tier 2 and above. 

The list is kinda huge..there's achievements out the wazzu, public fantastically huge dungeons (i've seen one they're awsome as hell blows WoW's craptastic ones away in my opinion), the Renown System, the Guild System, the City System (lots of quests and wild things to do the city is very living!), the Sieging, the Scenarios, the PQ's, Lairs, hidden quests....oh the mass of things to do..I shall be very busy the rest of this year.

 

Euhhh....

WAR is published now. well, as good as , so no need to have the heavy smoke signals around the new game. It's not a hyped myth anymore.

It's playable: everyone should play and look for themselves.

The things like "awesome and hell blows Wow's crap... etc" are useless.

You only make things worse by this, because everyone will have an opinion in playing it and the more hype the more people will expect.

It's not the second coming of Christ nor the third. Better hope for some good subscriptions before the next hype comes around. The one with the billion dollar budget.

But discussions can be closed now. Boxes are (almost) on the shelves and you can' t do a thing about it.

Originally posted by memoir

 

Euhhh....

WAR is published now. well, as good as , so no need to have the heavy smoke signals around the new game. It's not a hyped myth anymore.

It's playable: everyone should play and look for themselves.

The things like "awesome and hell blows Wow's crap... etc" are useless.

You only make things worse by this, because everyone will have an opinion in playing it and the more hype the more people will expect.

It's not the second coming of Christ nor the third. Better hope for some good subscriptions before the next hype comes around. The one with the billion dollar budget.

But discussions can be closed now. Boxes are (almost) on the shelves and you can' t do a thing about it.

 

Your ability to comprehend astounds me...i guess you missed what I said...I said I don't give a flying flip I'm adding to the fray for the hell of it because Fingis is a Troll he's been Trolling for two weeks now.  So STFU  thank you come again.  (yes the bitch is back).
 

Originally posted by fingis

I wanted LOTRO's RP stuff, the story line, the lore, the music, and the outfits.

I wanted WoW's raiding, WoW's PvP features, stealth, fear, feign death, charge, blink and so on.

WoW and LOTRO's execellent PvE questing.

And WAR's RvR.

I expected WAR to have all this.

Why does WAR have so little? People keep telling me that minimalism is good. I don't see it. I expect more from a new game, not less that games that are four years old.

Wow has a good system but I'm not looking for that in my next game. With that said, I was looking for Warhammer to have features like wow, because well everything I've read or seen on it reminds me of wow. Hell, they threw ideas at blizzard and blizzard stole the ideas. When I got in, it was a different story thank God and it was really enjoyable. Could have been better, but it's fun. At least will keep my attention until aion or darkfall release, then we'll see how those go.

Games are always overhyped and you never know how they are. You can even watch videos and that still doesn't really show you how the game is. Not until you are actually playing it and realize how it is. I think half of us if not more are wanting to see a game with HD Graphics. I mean come on let's face it, we get a lcd tv for hd and nice quality. We get that ps3 or 360 for better graphics, newer games  = better graphics and = better gameplay. The way the world is going, graphics are becoming everything with television and gaming. It's all about being clearer, cleaner, and more appealing to the eye.

I am still hoping for a game that has HD Quality graphics. Graphics aren't everything but they sure can make a game enjoyable if you have the system to run it.

It would be so nice to get into a game and be able to play High Quality HD settings which makes the game a 180 in graphics from the shitty graphics it starts out at. That way, everyone can play it. But, that would be hard to do I'm sure. =/ Hope something like this comes in the near future.

Just keep leveling in Warhammer. After level 11, it gets alot more fun.

P.S. LOTRO SUCKS. Wasted 50.00 when it was released. Enough said. =)

Originally posted by xfrozenx

 

Wow has a good system but I'm not looking for that in my next game. With that said, I was looking for Warhammer to have features like wow, because well everything I've read or seen on it reminds me of wow. Hell, they threw ideas at blizzard and blizzard stole the ideas. When I got in, it was a different story thank God and it was really enjoyable. Could have been better, but it's fun. At least will keep my attention until aion or darkfall release, then we'll see how those go.

Games are always overhyped and you never know how they are. You can even watch videos and that still doesn't really show you how the game is. Not until you are actually playing it and realize how it is. I think half of us if not more are wanting to see a game with HD Graphics. I mean come on let's face it, we get a lcd tv for hd and nice quality. We get that ps3 or 360 for better graphics, newer games  = better graphics and = better gameplay. The way the world is going, graphics are becoming everything with television and gaming. It's all about being clearer, cleaner, and more appealing to the eye.

 

I am still hoping for a game that has HD Quality graphics. Graphics aren't everything but they sure can make a game enjoyable if you have the system to run it.

 

It would be so nice to get into a game and be able to play High Quality HD settings which makes the game a 180 in graphics from the shitty graphics it starts out at. That way, everyone can play it. But, that would be hard to do I'm sure. =/ Hope something like this comes in the near future.

 

Just keep leveling in Warhammer. After level 11, it gets alot more fun.

P.S. LOTRO SUCKS. Wasted 50.00 when it was released. Enough said. =)

Even a mere 3 months after the launch of AoC, people still don't understand why "HQ HD" s(sic) can't be delivered in MMORPG's.

I will not go a 476795th time to explain why this can't be done. Just say this: you can't have them in MMORPG's and let the braincells work for once why it can't be done.

Yeh the games combat system is totaly off and the classes need to be totaly redone to fix this.