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Just playing War open beta, graphics are meh. gameplay is meh. Darkfall screenshots are better, War doesn't do full scene dynamic shadows for one thing :( Early days though, but they might as well have called it World of Warhammer, cause that's what it is. |
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Didnt seem to WoW like to me but then again I bet we all see what we want to see dont we |
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Yea...DF "looks" better because you can play screenshots instead of an actual existing game...right.
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Originally posted by Printscreen
The video from Darkfall And warhammer actually look pretty close in terms of graphics. But thats with darkfall at MEDIUM Settings in all of its screenshots...and video. |
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Originally posted by KOrnfan4evr
The video from Darkfall And warhammer actually look pretty close in terms of graphics. But thats with darkfall at MEDIUM Settings in all of its screenshots...and video. I'm playing at 1900x1200, it's a weird cross between WOW and DAOC graphics.
Having stared at DF screenies/videos for so long now I find the near compleye lack of dynamic shadows really jarring. The world looks fake. |
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Originally posted by javac I'm playing at 1900x1200, it's a weird cross between WOW and DAOC graphics.
Having stared at DF screenies/videos for so long now I find the near compleye lack of dynamic shadows really jarring. The world looks fake. Yeah... In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own. -Thomas Jefferson |
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Originally posted by KOrnfan4evr
The video from Darkfall And warhammer actually look pretty close in terms of graphics. But thats with darkfall at MEDIUM Settings in all of its screenshots...and video.
screenshots are higher settings |
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Because WAR doesn't have high rez textures in Open Beta...even a monkey could realize this. Seriously. Did you put Shadows on High Quality or Fastest Framerate? Pretty lame troll attempt. +1 for putting it in the DF forums though, lol. |
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Originally posted by javac
Lawl.
Woo for Photoshop.
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Originally posted by javac I'm playing at 1900x1200, it's a weird cross between WOW and DAOC graphics.
Having stared at DF screenies/videos for so long now I find the near compleye lack of dynamic shadows really jarring. The world looks fake.
Agree. Warhammer is a really ugly game. Add WoW gameplay to that and you feel like puking. Have a niceone. Aragon - Member of B@D guild |
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oblivionate
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Joined: 7/19/07
"For we walk by faith, not by sight" - 2 Corinthians 5:7 |
Originally posted by Aragon100 I'm playing at 1900x1200, it's a weird cross between WOW and DAOC graphics.
Having stared at DF screenies/videos for so long now I find the near compleye lack of dynamic shadows really jarring. The world looks fake.
Agree. Warhammer is a really ugly game. Add WoW gameplay to that and you feel like puking. Have a niceone. Wow. It shames me to see just how far someone will go hating a game just because it's not their favorite. Too pathetic. On a more serious note, Warhammer has much better screenshots out and from what I've seen, better graphics, but then again it is far more polished so it makes sense. When you look at the effects in Darkfall, it makes my eyes sad to see such poorly rendered explosions... 
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Originally posted by oblivionate
Agree. Warhammer is a really ugly game. Add WoW gameplay to that and you feel like puking. Have a niceone. Wow. It shames me to see just how far someone will go hating a game just because it's not their favorite. Too pathetic. On a more serious note, Warhammer has much better screenshots out and from what I've seen, better graphics, but then again it is far more polished so it makes sense. When you look at the effects in Darkfall, it makes my eyes sad to see such poorly rendered explosions...
What do you expect? The game hasn't even started beta yet. WAR has been in beta for god-knows-how-long, and it barely looks any better. If the particle effects and the animations in DF were brought up to par, it would look as good or better than the flat, lifeless graphics that WAR is sporting, now just days before release. ____________________________________________ |
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Nothing good will come from this thread.... That being said, let me contribute to it and bump it of course. Ive been playing WAR OB, and you cant deny that it looks, feels, and "plays" exactly like WoW in terms of combat. Not a bad thing, I mean WoW perfected the EQ style gameplay. But its the same IP (i know WAR came first, but at the end of the day its the same), very similar UI, same target + hotbar spam combat. So you add up all of these things + the exact same artistic cartoony style (again not a bad thing) and its like playing WoW just with new classes. Now this isnt my review of WAR, cause I actually like a LOT of things the game is doing to differentiate itself and I think they do it well, but I kind of had to build that up to talk about the graphics. The graphics are "dated" just as much as Darkfall. Its the same as WoW which came out in 2003. Maybe a little smoother in some areas, but its the same concept. I obviously can't say DF's graphics are better, and sorry OP but you can't either since we havent played it yet. But I defintitely prefer "in my opinion" the realistic feel that DF goes for. I think that is a pretty fair way to put it, and certainly is more level headed than people making comments like "lol photoshop". Oh and a side note...the first response to this thread was ironically amazing. Pelu is one of the most intriguing posters on this forum in the sense that he is somewhere between troll and court jester with a mental disease. I can never tell if he is serious, but him calling OP a troll is amazing, especially since the other day he posted a picture of crap in the DF forum as a thread and it was quickly removed and I assume he got a temp ban. So yea back to WAR cause I am having some fun in the PVP stuff and PQs, and trying the different classes. Definitely wont play because it is a WoW clone in the sense of big picture gameplay (not an actual copy/paste of WoW), but it is certainly going to be one hell of a game and If it had released in 2003, I would have never played WoW. good lord my ranting abilities are astounding. oh yea....this thread is going to be fun when the DF fanbois, WAR fanbois who will be offended, Vaporware Trolls, and the WAR fanbois who are also trolls get into it in some kind of powered up super nerd cage match. ~~ Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296 "The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester "If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos |
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LOL please by the time DARKFALL comes out it will be dated. They may say "I hate" lol hate look up the meaning, but hate warhammer but what will you be playing? WARHAMMER.. thats right they say they wont but they will. As for shadows in WAR I have to agree still to this day NO dynamic shadows yet you play Wowlk and you can turn on dynamic shadows through the console. . I will be playing it but man I really expected ALOT more. And if you played this last weekend (open beta) DONT expect ANYTHING newer than that.at launch. that is sad.. |
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Why are you all complaining about the graphics. It was designed to have a low polygon count so we can have huge 100v100+ battles. If you want amazing graphics go play Conan, with there epic 10v10 5fps battles. 
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lol tbh I think there on a par with each other, ie crap, but fortunately both games will have some solid gameplay going for them. Have to say in terms of combat, which is my other gripe with Warhammer, it actually looks better than Darkfall, at least if the video was any indication. Thats leaving aside the ship battles in Darkfall. I just wish Mythic owned AoC, and then I wouldnt have to bother with either, as it stands RvR and public quests is keepign me occupied with WAR right now. |
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Originally posted by jesusplowdme
Top post of the thread.. i am really sick of all those graphic discussions. WAR looks good for what it is, and the same is true for Darkfall(with some exceptions.. some partical effects, no damage maps for warhulks or ships and a few other things.. but i hope they will improve it). If you want to play a MMO you have to accept low polygon counts on characters, or you play highly instanced mmos(or better multiplayer games then) or even better the good old single player game. It is no problem to have good graphics and a lot of polygons per character with just 20-40 characters around you. And by the way, if you are the typical graphic whore.. wait for Project Offset. Extremely good graphics but very limited multiplayer(24players). And beside of that.. every comparsion between Darkfall and WAR is far off, because those two games are completele different. DFO is a sandbox. WAR is a classic themepark. DFO is realtime combat. WAR is classic combat. And not to talk about ffa pvp and the more casual RvR approach. Both are good for what they stand. And nothing wrong with every point of both.. they have just a completely different audience.. or are good for competely different things. End of this moronic comparisions. |
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Originally posted by Bruticus_XI
Shadows are on high, textures are also on high. If you could read it wasn't the textures I was complaining about -- both War and DF textures are for the most part fine. It's that even in high shadows, all you get in War are character shadows, whereas in DF, all world objects cast a real shadow - the trees, the leaves of tree, houses, rocks, etc.
As a result, DF looks much better, and more realistic, whereas War graphics look fake.
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Originally posted by mrroboto40
Lawl.
Woo for Photoshop.
Evidently DF graphics are so good some people think they are photoshopped, which is as good a compliment as anything. |
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ronan32
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Joined: 8/19/05
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Originally posted by javac
wow has better graphics than darkfall, you truly are a rabid fanboy. darkfall wont be the game you are looking for, i garantee you. |
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ermorden
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Joined: 2/06/08
I love children, I just never can finish a whole one. |
Originally posted by Zeblade
Uh, I'm not going to be playing warhammer. The guys I know and trust who are "elder testers" or whatever, for having been in beta so long, are affirming that it is both in feel and visually a permutation of WorldofWarcrapft. |
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ermorden
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Joined: 2/06/08
I love children, I just never can finish a whole one. |
Originally posted by ronan32
wow has better graphics than darkfall, you truly are a rabid fanboy. darkfall wont be the game you are looking for, i garantee you. WoW- images.mmosite.com/photo/2007/11/18/ss37_aVv5L5V50VU.jpg upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e4/WoW-Lakeshire.png mac.softpedia.com/screenshots/9-890_1.jpg DFO www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/visuals/17_G www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/visuals/location_06 www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/visuals/clan_siege_04 WAR www.hdgamenews.com/uploaded_images/warhammer-online-718760.jpg mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/screenshots/SS0423_Chosen_06.jpg www.pcgamingrally.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/06.jpg
DFO looks the most real and has the kind of feel that I coudl immerse myself in. WAR looks like WoW's engine, rebuilt. I know the WAR UI is also reminiscent of WoWs. I'll wait for darkfall, thanks. |
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It is like comparing art, its all preference. Debating it is just... stupid. And the graphics are what they are. It doesn't matter if Darkfall isn't in beta yet, how much different could it look later? They already have their engine and textures made for the most part (or they should anyways). WAR will look a little better on higher settings, but its generally the same style, that won't change. |
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I personally can't say that either's graphics are better than the other from looking at 1 video and playing beta. Maybe after i play both I'll be able to say which looks better to me. I like the overall art style of WAR, but that's because i love the warhammer mythology and lore. I like the graphics in Darkfall that i saw, but they definitely had some animation issues (not enough different types) but then again that was early beta and WAR itself did the same thing putting in a lot of new animations later. Either way, neither of these games should have ridiculous graphics as that would ruin the large scale pvp that both games rely on... Hence making a graphics argument between 2 games not based on graphics.... well kind of irrelevant.
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