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If the graphics are highend and complex, what do people complain about? - "I cant enter the capital city, I get like 2 frames" This endless whining id hear almost daily in AoC. Yes the game was very preety and graphically advanced, but what effect would you have on a large amount of people when the action got complex? Their frame rates would tank and they would become ineffective and unresponsive. So do people REALLY expect to have the majority of people be able to have a playable game when there are 100+ people in your immediate proximity? The RvR battles in WAR get huge. There are no artificial limitations like in AoC. So if you get 200 people showing up at your keep to break down the doors, do you think it will be fun if youre getting 1 FPS? Mythic chose gameplay over graphics, THANK GOD. If graphics were king, games like AoC and Crysis would be ruling supreme and scraping everyone else from the bottom of their boots. And a game like WoW, with cartoony pastel color graphics with trees that looked like squares would have bombed within 6 months. WoW is complete proof that gameplay is more important than graphics, and like it or not, a smart developer will invest more resources into gameplay than graphics. Funcom did it backwards, and ask anyone who has played the endgame, fancy graphics mean nothing if you have a severe lack of content. Therefore with WAR, we are stuck with "ugly graphics" such as the pics I took yesterday:
If you think thats ugly, well then, go play AoC or Crysis. You have a choice, WAR isnt the only game in town. |
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Honestly the bottom line is people need something and will find something to complain about. For me personally the graphics are fine, and I could really care less about how it looks as long as I am having fun. For others if the game doesn't look like Crysis on max then they think it sucks. To each thier own. ---------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Originally posted by Annekynn
i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd146/Annekynn/annex01.jpg i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd146/Annekynn/annex02.jpg i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd146/Annekynn/annex03.jpg Make them clickable, it's easy to do. "nerf rock, paper is working as intended." - Scissors. |
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The graphics look fine to me, I can hardly wait to see them for myself first hand! If you can't "Have your cake & eat it too", then how can "The proof of the pudding be in the eating"? |
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Funny thing is that people complain that graphic are sub-part, but get a game like AoC that as much eye candy, and people got zomg i canz play dis shit!11!1!
There no pleasing the average MMO player anyway. "There no I in team but there a WE in weapon." -Thoragrin Oxenhide |
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After eveything I have read, I was expecting not a lot on the graphics front; however your screenshots show that there is not a lot to complain about. Obviously, with a big RvR ongoing, even if there was high end graphics, you would only be scaling them down so you can play. I rember when the DAoC labyrthin came out, and I had to turn off so much of the eye candy to keep playing as the action was frantic in there. |
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Faelan
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Joined: 11/13/04
Oops - looks like I'm an internet dog who somehow learned how to type. What has the world come to? |
The animations, effects and model faces are mediocre at best. Some are down right atrocious (unless you enjoy looking like a 50 year old who hasn't slept for two weeks, has been through a meatgrinder and got a totempole shoved up his rear end). The rest is fine and will probably look even better with the full retail client. EVE online - the MMO that takes PVP to a whole new level. Everything you own can and will be ganked, including your boot.ini. Now give me your stuff. |
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The retail client will probably contain higher resolution textures and more advanced lighting effects. AA and AF isn't in beta as well. |
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Yar...Conan is gorgeous (if you can actually use medium+ settings), but I was always getting very spastic FPS. I would much rather have a pretty good looking game that is playable than a gorgeous game that is choppy. |
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Originally posted by Faelan
Animations and effects are just not perfectly sync'd yet (sometimes they are even broken). If they keep on making progress on this subject like they did with the latest patches we can expect a much smoother experience at launch - of course there is no guarantee. Your comment about the faces is purely subjective. If you are not accustomed to eating kiwi, go slow at first. |
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Originally posted by Faelan
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I dunno, some people think this screenshot is better than WAR apparently...
www.eqcircle.com/images/screenshots/kaelly.gif vs i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd146/Annekynn/annex02.jpg
Apparently original EQ had better graphics according to some posters on this site. How about EQ2 maybe? eq2vault.ign.com/screenshots/full_res.php Nope still not seeing it. WAR graphics match up to anything but AOC and maybe the eastern MMO's. |
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Originally posted by Faelan
Last time I looked at the Warhammer Fantasy Minitures ...which is often online since people post their armies..they weren't Exactly "pretty" If you want "Pretty" Play the Elves and dont' choose faces with Scars. Personally I think the faces are awsome I love picking out ones where their face appears to be mauled so they're missing an eye. The animations are actually really well done some arent' finished of course. The animations AUTO Scale down the more people on screen to reduce lag which is soemthing people aren't used too. People are used to doing it themselves. The effects when the server isn't to lagged to notice are pretty awsome. Its pretty cool when huge plumes of smoke bust up in your face making it impossible to see the enemy for a few seconds ... Cover Fire...a Witch Hunter's friend. To be honest whether or not the graphics, animations etc are mediocre or not is completely subjective. They're Up to Date but not top end. They're better than WoW but they arent' Crysis (a shitty game that was nothing but pretty pictures). I dont understand what the deal is with some people they love graphics and call games with top end the best game in the world but if your a real Gamer someone who enjoys 'gaming' and you buy this awsome leet pretty game and the Gameplay sucks your wondering who the fraks shat in your cereal. I'm tired of graphics loving non gamers who pretend to be gamers Shatting in my Cereal. I want fun games, decent graphics that run good...I don't need top end i must make my computer bleed graphics with a crap game. This is WAR people are supposed to look Ravaged. IF you want WoWhammer or Age of Boobs the exit is <------- that way. |
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Originally posted by banthis
This is exactly what I am looking forward to as well. I have followed the Warhammer franchise for the last twenty years & love it's anarchic sense of humour & chaotic graphical style. If you can't "Have your cake & eat it too", then how can "The proof of the pudding be in the eating"? |
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WAR comes out in 2008 (almost 2009) with 4-5 years old graphics, they only added some higher res textures.. Period. As for AoC, I'm am running the game with everything maxed out and I never had any framerate issues. If your PC can't handle current gen graphics, then upgrade or play games that are made for it, like WAR with 4-5 years old graphics. As for gameplay, I think WAR is the only mmorpg that I could not make myself login anymore after level 10. The overall feeling was like playing WoW again, with worse pve gameplay. The same old... same old... So boring. As for rvr, it was fun for a short while, but that's it. I even had more fun in free 2 play games like Shaiya, Rappelz or Perfectworld; so why pay for WAR? I left Aoc 2 months ago and didn't want to resub until the promised features were in, but playing 10 levels in WAR made me resub to AoC yesterday (and WOW what a difference it was!). AoC's atmosphere is just so much better, I think cartoon games like WAR aren't for me anymore. |
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the only problem that i ahve is that the video cardes are totaly hindering to older machines. I cant play the game due to the fact they wont let a 6200 Nvidia card over a GFX5200-5300 which is totaly lame. What I can play before the game crashes and makes my vido a 16bit 800x600 screen is wicked cool i could care less if the game was mud bsed but wicked content. |
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Originally posted by BigMango
If you think AoC has MORE atmosphere then I simply can't take you seriously.
If you think AoC has BETTER atmosphere then that is fine. |
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AOC is horrible and I mean horrible. The combat system is boring as heck, I grew out of simon says 30 years ago. I have never been more bored of the PvE in a game than I was with AOC by level 40. Seems we just disagree on things and that is fine~. As for WAR being 4 year old graphics, you are being absurd. The graphics are better than WoW, better than EQ2 and at least in the same realm as LOTRO or Vanguard and in my opinion WAR is better. The only western MMO I've played with clearly better graphics is AOC. |
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Originally posted by Faelan
Well from the lore most people in Warhammer (apart from Elves) look pretty haggard, you know with the perpetual state of war people are going to look old and have a lot of scars ect. |
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Tuck2000
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Joined: 3/20/08
Bartle Test result: Killer |
What the hell do people want WAR graphics are a happy balance for RvR you are not going to get 100 v 100 on a screen if you try the AOC way with graphics so they have come up witha nice looking "PLAYABLE" enviroment that will support the masses. If you don't like it don't play it's that simple. And if you don't think the animations and AOE are good go play RvR in a peak period when 20 Bright Wizards are nuking the whole dam area you will get a nice firework display. PLAYING:AION, MO,LOTRO(Life Account) |
Originally posted by Ender4
If you want some boring combat, play WAR Yes, what I see in WAR is 4 year old graphics with improved textures. Take WOW, put a little higher res textures, and you have WAR (art is different but still very close). It's just some higher res textures, the game engine isn't using any current gen features. |
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Originally posted by BigMango
You lost your credibility right there.Period. |
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I don't know what the problem people are having with graphics.. |
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Originally posted by pollux667
You lost your credibility right there.Period.
No, even drawing distance is much shorter than several 4 year old games. You can't see anyting in the distance, it's all grey. Compared to WOW, WAR just has some higher res textures, nothing more. There is no current gen engine feature in WAR. |
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So WAR is just like WOW only better so it is 4 years old? Um ok. MMORPG games are generally behind the times a bit in general but name one MMORPG that has come out as much as 3 years ago that clearly has better graphics than WAR. I sure can't think of one, the only one I can think of at all is AOC. No I don't expect a game built around mass PvP to have AOC graphics and I think Funcom might be regretting their choice right now since sieges still play like crap and they lost 90% of their playerbase. |
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AoC combat is fast and furious, with some great and polished animations. WAR combat was OK to me (Witch Elf was fast I liked it), but nothing special...
