Because if not  i don't think it's really going to appeal to as many people as WoW.My GF already has said "oh that looks like a dude game".It needs to have some other great features besides the RVR PVP to take the throne.I'm not saying it's a bad game but in order to get the subs up it needs more appeal then just combat.

People like the idea that in WoW you can put your weopons to your side and do other things besides fight all the time.But other then that the game looks great I'm downloading it right now.

No dances or housing.

No dances. Why whould you dance whern your in the middle of a war?

Originally posted by Mattee336

Because if not  i don't think it's really going to appeal to as many people as WoW.My GF already has said "oh that looks like a dude game".It needs to have some other great features besides the RVR PVP to take the throne.I'm not saying it's a bad game but in order to get the subs up it needs more appeal then just combat.

People like the idea that in WoW you can put your weopons to your side and do other things besides fight all the time.But other then that the game looks great I'm downloading it right now.

The game is made by Mythic, who had housing and "dancing" long before WoW was even made. That being said, WAR, as the name suggests, is about RvR. Its not so much a virtual world like Dark Age of Camelot was, and to an extent (despite the heavy instancing crap) WoW is. But, play housing could very well come later down the line.

Originally posted by Mattee336

Because if not  i don't think it's really going to appeal to as many people as WoW.My GF already has said "oh that looks like a dude game".It needs to have some other great features besides the RVR PVP to take the throne.I'm not saying it's a bad game but in order to get the subs up it needs more appeal then just combat.

People like the idea that in WoW you can put your weopons to your side and do other things besides fight all the time.But other then that the game looks great I'm downloading it right now.

Go play WoW then? lol

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by Mattee336

Because if not  i don't think it's really going to appeal to as many people as WoW.My GF already has said "oh that looks like a dude game".It needs to have some other great features besides the RVR PVP to take the throne.I'm not saying it's a bad game but in order to get the subs up it needs more appeal then just combat.

People like the idea that in WoW you can put your weopons to your side and do other things besides fight all the time.But other then that the game looks great I'm downloading it right now.

 

The game is made by Mythic, who had housing and "dancing" long before WoW was even made. That being said, WAR, as the name suggests, is about RvR. Its not so much a virtual world like Dark Age of Camelot was, and to an extent (despite the heavy instancing crap) WoW is. But, play housing could very well come later down the line.

DAoC wasn't launched with housing, so we may see it yet. You never know.

I'm just saying to all those who think this game has a shot to take the throne, absolutely not.just needs to be more there to appeal to more diverse groups of people.

It's a new game.  They may add additional features later on, but the basic game structure is very fun as it stands.  I would like housing too but I would take this game over LOTRO which has housing and dances (I am also female).

Originally posted by Mattee336

I'm just saying to all those who think this game has a shot to take the throne, absolutely not.just needs to be more there to appeal to more diverse groups of people.

I agree, a game with nothing but pvp (and not good pvp) will get old very fast.

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by Mattee336

Because if not  i don't think it's really going to appeal to as many people as WoW.My GF already has said "oh that looks like a dude game".It needs to have some other great features besides the RVR PVP to take the throne.I'm not saying it's a bad game but in order to get the subs up it needs more appeal then just combat.

People like the idea that in WoW you can put your weopons to your side and do other things besides fight all the time.But other then that the game looks great I'm downloading it right now.

 

The game is made by Mythic, who had housing and "dancing" long before WoW was even made. That being said, WAR, as the name suggests, is about RvR. Its not so much a virtual world like Dark Age of Camelot was, and to an extent (despite the heavy instancing crap) WoW is. But, play housing could very well come later down the line.

Thats not the point the WAR ip dose not fit well with danceing. Its dark and gritty therefor no dancing and will never be dancing according to them altho theres some outher cool emotes. 

Hmm they mite add something like guild houses(castles/keeps?) for level 40 guilds which will have same benifits as a keep really, but suppose the enemy could raid them and it will give guilds their very own HQ to defend and retreat to, be quite cool :)

Originally posted by madstoog

Hmm they mite add something like guild houses(castles/keeps?) for level 40 guilds which will have same benifits as a keep really, but suppose the enemy could raid them and it will give guilds their very own HQ to defend and retreat to, be quite cool :)

It would. In a game like this to be honest, I don't know if I would like personal houses. Dancing, not a big deal but always a neat effect in games. Warhammer is a manly game, haha j/p. Men dance. I'm just messing.

Originally posted by Blodpls

Originally posted by Mattee336

I'm just saying to all those who think this game has a shot to take the throne, absolutely not.just needs to be more there to appeal to more diverse groups of people.

 

I agree, a game with nothing but pvp (and not good pvp) will get old very fast.

However, take EVE-Online as an example: it always comes down to PvP (yeah yeah it has manufacturing, but manufacturing FOR PvP), and it didn't "get old" yet...

The above poster about EVE was correct . PVP = the future , no matter how you spin it . Pve is still AI and AI  is still superior dumb in mmo-land . You only can have raiding, story and quests and maybe some future ideas but mass companies don't wanna do that so all you see is bland raiding and bland kill x quests which aren't quest but jokes created by lazy developers.

PVP is a whole lot more like FFA, RVR and in those things it is factional warface, town wars,  guild vs guild  open world pvp,  sea combat ( naval combat) sieges  etc. etc.

And then you got the non -combat content like crafting, economy and social classes NAME IT! Which are mostly found in sandbox games while pve content like raiding and quests are more found in linear games.

Having all 3 would create awesomeness , so that's what developers need to aim for.

/dance
"No. You do not want to dance. "

There is no housing. When you are at war you sleep in WAR CAMPS BABY!

Originally posted by Vindicoth

 

/dance
"No. You do not want to dance. "

There is no housing. When you are at war you sleep in WAR CAMPS BABY!

In the warhammer universe, forts and camps indeed where created.  Camps = added under housing , just like forts and player build keeps 

Originally posted by shadenis

The above poster about EVE was correct . PVP = the future , no matter how you spin it . Pve is still AI and AI  is still superior dumb in mmo-land . You only can have raiding, story and quests and maybe some future ideas but mass companies don't wanna do that so all you see is bland raiding and bland kill x quests which aren't quest but jokes created by lazy developers.

 

PVP is a whole lot more like FFA, RVR and in those things it is factional warface, town wars,  guild vs guild  open world pvp,  sea combat ( naval combat) sieges  etc. etc.

 

And then you got the non -combat content like crafting, economy and social classes NAME IT! Which are mostly found in sandbox games while pve content like raiding and quests are more found in linear games.

Having all 3 would create awesomeness , so that's what developers need to aim for.

Agree 100%. PVP is about  being in a community. Communicating in general and PVE games go as far back as working in Asheron's Call to help each other to kill the bosses. I mean it goes back way further, I'm just saying. PVE is pve, it will always be there. But, I think people are growing more attached to the pvp concept of games. Competitve and wanting to take out real opponents.

PVP is growing on everyone and is becoming the main factors in most games now. If it doesn't have good pvp, I refuse to play it. I'm glad Warhammer is ABOUT WAR and it revolves around pvp, for the most part.

Why, especially if you were Destruction, would you want to dance in the middle of a bloody and brutal war? Same with the housing; you're on the front lines fighting, not kicking back and drinking tea on your couch.

OK well I'm still going to give it a go.Becuase there is alot in the game that appeals to me.So what it doesen't have dancing and player housing , it has armor dyeing and that should appeal to some asthetics.

Originally posted by D3mis3

Why, especially if you were Destruction, would you want to dance in the middle of a bloody and brutal war? Same with the housing; you're on the front lines fighting, not kicking back and drinking tea on your couch.

Agreed, LMAO. But wasn't housing nice in neocron for instance? Housing can be a fun experience...It would be nice to have a little town set aside in warhammer for kicking back after a little war action and drinking one, HAHA.

Dancing though, eh.

There is a command for /katadance that does a dance involving you swinging your weapons.

Originally posted by shadenis

The above poster about EVE was correct . PVP = the future , no matter how you spin it . Pve is still AI and AI  is still superior dumb in mmo-land . You only can have raiding, story and quests and maybe some future ideas but mass companies don't wanna do that so all you see is bland raiding and bland kill x quests which aren't quest but jokes created by lazy developers.

 

PVP is a whole lot more like FFA, RVR and in those things it is factional warface, town wars,  guild vs guild  open world pvp,  sea combat ( naval combat) sieges  etc. etc.

 

And then you got the non -combat content like crafting, economy and social classes NAME IT! Which are mostly found in sandbox games while pve content like raiding and quests are more found in linear games.

Having all 3 would create awesomeness , so that's what developers need to aim for.

pvp is not the future of mmo's, better technology will lead to better ai.  better technologies will give better graphics and better experienced, eventually you will go into a dungeon and it will look like a real dragon.

PVP will never be the future, because unless every class is the same, you will N E V E R have balanced pvp, and no one gives a flying monkeys butt about unbalanced zergfests like WoW and WAR, it's a small percentage of the mmo population as a whole that enjoys that crap. 

why do you think EVE never has more than 120,000 users logged in at once? it's c piece of crap, the graphics are amazing, the gameplay is a borefest.  WARP, WARP, WARP, WARP, WARP, WARP, oh did i mention WARP.  hey look i found some pirates, attack, attack, WARP AWAY THEY ARE *WAY* too powerful.

pvp will only ever be good in 1 genre, FPS games.  why? because that's what they are built around. EVERYBODY has the same equipment, it's PURELY based on skill.

I can't stress this enough, ANY class, race, level, and gear based game is NEVER * * * EVER * * * going to be balanced for pvp.

LOL I don't know about you, but I could see a Choosen dancing around in glee after they lop a head off of someone.

elondor, i don't think you have really payed attention to the MMORPG genre over the past 4 years if you really believe this. WoW has gone from a PvE game with PvP tacked on to at least 50% PvP and probably more. AOC failed to keep a player population largely because of the lack of PvP systems at release.

PvP used to be a niche but now it almost a requirement to a good game release.

Originally posted by Ender4

elondor, i don't think you have really payed attention to the MMORPG genre over the past 4 years if you really believe this. WoW has gone from a PvE game with PvP tacked on to at least 50% PvP and probably more. AOC failed to keep a player population largely because of the lack of PvP systems at release.

PvP used to be a niche but now it almost a requirement to a good game release.

I agree and I want to know what elondor is smoking, haha. I'm just messing.

Seriously though, pvp is built around games nowadays. As you notice in world of warcraft, half of the game IS NOW BASED ON PVP. I mean everything you do on wow, has a chance of having some pvp involvement. Oh, the good of having pvp servers on games. Roleplaiyng is going out of style and pvp is the new style. You can either wear the cool clothes or be an outcast, you choose, HAHA im just messin again.

Warhammer is basing the game around pvp...if you think pvp isn't the soul of good games nowadays, you're crazy and you need to quit warhammer now.