Originally posted by felix77 

  I'm not denying that WoW has millions of subs. They do, they have less monthly then Lineage at it's peak. All Asian countries buy WoW in game time cards. Hourly cards. So how much do you think a person has to buy before they are counted? Yes I do think they inflate their numbers. In every country. But especially in Asia where any amount of time purchased can be counted. The ignorance is just not knowing their Asian sub model. Lineage actually had 6 million monthly subs. WoW might have beeten that but not by nearly as much as they claim.

Felix,  NCSoft publishes their subscription numbers in the quarterly reports and last I saw, Lineage is no where near 6 million monthly subscribers, nor is Lineage II and still not close even if you combine them.  Where do you get this 6 million subscriber figure from?

On the other hand blizzard claims about 4.5 million North America/European monthly subscribers and 5.5 million for the rest of the world (I have no idea how many other regions it is sold in).  If someone pays for time, even just a little bit, that still makes that account an active subscription.  Unless you are suggesting there is a minimum amount of time someone must play a month they count just as much as the next person who pays money to play the game, just like anywhere else in the world?

Korean game usually = god-awful grind.

Also I couldn't find any game play videos, just a bunch of trailers which are completely useless in telling one if a game is worth looking at or not.

This games graphics looks exactly the same as WOW so graphics wise WOW is not doomed but the graphics system looks real good. To be honest i still think that WOW is still in lead and with the Lich King coming soon i think this game has got some catching up to do.

(excuse my spelling)

Prius Art

This game looks like it is a WoW type game, down to the graphics.   They have like 7 classes, and 3 or 4 races.   Looks interesting enough.   I think it is in closed beta 2 right now.   Don't see anything mentioned about an english version unfortuantely.

I don't get why people go on and on about how such-and-such game is going to be the WoW killer - or the <insert current-generation super-successful MMORPG here>, or whatever.

EverQuest is still somewhat alive - perhaps not nearly what it was BEFORE, but it's still alive. It's still running. It's still profitable enough to keep it going.

World of Warcraft topped it, but it didn't kill it - and whatever tops World of Warcraft probably won't kill it, either. I expect both World of Warcraft and the original EverQuest will still be floating around making money long after World of Warcraft 2 gets thrown out there by Blizzard.

Now, mind you... I WANT something that just totally blows WoW out of the water. It is the McDonalds of MMORPGs - I like it, but I know we could have better. But even if the best MMO ever is created in the next four years, WoW will almost certainly still be chuggin' along with a decent playerbase.

Originally posted by Teala

 

Prius Art

This game looks like it is a WoW type game, down to the graphics.   They have like 7 classes, and 3 or 4 races.   Looks interesting enough.   I think it is in closed beta 2 right now.   Don't see anything mentioned about an english version unfortuantely.

ps. I pray this comes out in english in the US! For some reason it also reminds me of PSO in a way. The Anima being your MAG and well I dunno it just does ^^;

why did u even mention WoW.

the only reason i hate wow so badly is cus of char custom. they should make the characters look more nicer not all look like beasts.

well back to the topic. the game looks good. char looks nice. looks like u can move and attack at the same time. im not sure about the last sentence. if u can, then the griding wont be bad. also u cant compare it to other games yet since we dont know anything about it.

the only thing we know about this game, is its fighting style, we havent even seen the skills.

It's a Korean Grinder? I'll pass thank you, I had enough of that from FFXI and that was japanese, not Korean, and if it has an item shop like most korean MMO's then I know I definetely won't be playing. Looks pretty, but I could never support a game that thinks item shops and grinds, instead of FUN are ok.

I have been playing wow since 2004 (on and off ) it gets boring fast,so i usually play after patches and expansions ,but what Im here to say is that most wow players (at least from my experience) never played another mmorpg before , i would guess like 70% of them, the game is good but with all the hype and money they are making which they in turn invest in advertising makes it hard for a game to beat it any time soon (even if the game is 20X better).

I have played many mmorpgs since ultima online, and i think if there is a company that can beat blizzard, theres a great chance that this company will be Mythic, ncsoft have not made any real games that impressed me, turbine just doest appeal to the main stream, soe has the worst custumer service ever and their best game is not main stream ,since  eq and eq2 are more rpg/pve based , wow appeals to a  broad scale of people since its easy to pick up and play it has alot of pve content and a decent ammount of pvp,and they always add more content (mostly items to hook people into reaching for the next set of armor ,which can become quite addicting) the game also can run on most of the computers and not just gaming machines, all those factors makes the wow player market really broad which in turn yields  tons of players. The massive ammount of players that wow has does not make it the best game, its just a really good game that appeals to  a broad range of people .

In my opinion eq and finalfantasy have better rpg/pve aspects than wow and eve online has a better pvp and crafting system and i believe warhammer will too . I think wow has already lost in those categories, wow is not the best game ,its just a really good all around game but subscription wise i dont think anyone will be touching the crown any time soon.

Originally posted by Kyleran

Anytime someone says a game will "defeat" WOW usually means its going to suck in epic proportions. 

 

 

BAM! QFT!

Originally posted by sainthate
hell yeah WoW players are compose of Gold Sellers and Gold bot farmers

And exactly what MMORPG does not contain bots and gold sellers?

Originally posted by BizkitNL

Originally posted by sainthate
hell yeah WoW players are compose of Gold Sellers and Gold bot farmers

 

And exactly what MMORPG does not contain bots and gold sellers?

Originally posted by sainthate

Originally posted by BizkitNL

Originally posted by sainthate
hell yeah WoW players are compose of Gold Sellers and Gold bot farmers

 

And exactly what MMORPG does not contain bots and gold sellers?

perfectworld.levelupgames.ph no gold spammers no bot farmers :)

No bot farmers. Thats true. You know why?

www.mmotaku.com/2008/01/18/bots-found-in-perfect-world-philippines-server/

Who needs bots, when a coin can do the trick?

And you can buy PW currency from the usual sites (Which I won't name here for obvious reasons). Which means it WILL be advertised in some way or another ingame.

Seriously, which MMORPG does NOT contain bots or goldsellers? Try again.

Originally posted by BizkitNL

Originally posted by sainthate

Originally posted by BizkitNL

Originally posted by sainthate
hell yeah WoW players are compose of Gold Sellers and Gold bot farmers

 

And exactly what MMORPG does not contain bots and gold sellers?

perfectworld.levelupgames.ph no gold spammers no bot farmers :)

 

No bot farmers. Thats true. You know why?

www.mmotaku.com/2008/01/18/bots-found-in-perfect-world-philippines-server/

Who needs bots, when a coin can do the trick?

And you can buy PW currency from the usual sites (Which I won't name here for obvious reasons). Which means it WILL be advertised in some way or another ingame.

Seriously, which MMORPG does NOT contain bots or goldsellers? Try again.

Originally posted by sainthate

Originally posted by BizkitNL

Originally posted by sainthate

Originally posted by BizkitNL

Originally posted by sainthate
hell yeah WoW players are compose of Gold Sellers and Gold bot farmers

 

And exactly what MMORPG does not contain bots and gold sellers?

perfectworld.levelupgames.ph no gold spammers no bot farmers :)

 

No bot farmers. Thats true. You know why?

www.mmotaku.com/2008/01/18/bots-found-in-perfect-world-philippines-server/

Who needs bots, when a coin can do the trick?

And you can buy PW currency from the usual sites (Which I won't name here for obvious reasons). Which means it WILL be advertised in some way or another ingame.

Seriously, which MMORPG does NOT contain bots or goldsellers? Try again.

lol as i said BOT is different when using coin, lol i use coin when afk mob killing and skill pt onRF but thats not BOTTing, Gold sellers? you actually believe they really sell cheap PW currency for peso? the answer is no, the site contains malicious malware. Seriously there arent someone advertsing them there nor SPAMMINg the chat thread.. go register for yourself if you dont believe.. anyways learning from just reading here in the net doesnt hold any stable grounds for any argument best you experience it

What exactly is the difference between a botting program and using a coin to jam a keyboard key? Other than the obvious, offcourse. I could start up the game before I go to bed, jam the key with something, then head to sleep while the character does the rest. Voila, when I wake up, I may have levelled up a couple of times (If the game uses a level-up system, which Im sure it does). In this case, I guess people would start calling players "Keyjammers" or something like that, instead of bots. Basically, theyre both the same: Character automation. One uses software, the other doesnt. Thats it.

And on the goldselling: What I'm trying to say is that it might not be spammed yet, but it will be at some point. Why? Because PW is one of those "Make cash fast, then make another MMO to do the same thing all over again" type of MMORPG. The developers will not make too much of an effort to fight goldselling. Its the same with all the other MMORPG's like it. Heck, even a game like WoW, with billions of profit income , can't effectively fight it.

Its all a matter of popularity. PW isn't as popular as some of the MMO's. That may be the reason that goldspammers aren't attracted to it yet. Can't say for sure. I hope for anyone that plays it, it will never be too popular.

PS: "anyways learning from just reading here in the net doesnt hold any stable grounds for any argument best you experience it "

I speak from an allround MMO-gaming experience. PW is a free-to-play MMO with an Item all, and let's face it, theyre all the frikkin same.

Originally posted by BizkitNL

Originally posted by sainthate

Originally posted by BizkitNL

Originally posted by sainthate

Originally posted by BizkitNL

Originally posted by sainthate
hell yeah WoW players are compose of Gold Sellers and Gold bot farmers

 

And exactly what MMORPG does not contain bots and gold sellers?

perfectworld.levelupgames.ph no gold spammers no bot farmers :)

 

No bot farmers. Thats true. You know why?

www.mmotaku.com/2008/01/18/bots-found-in-perfect-world-philippines-server/

Who needs bots, when a coin can do the trick?

And you can buy PW currency from the usual sites (Which I won't name here for obvious reasons). Which means it WILL be advertised in some way or another ingame.

Seriously, which MMORPG does NOT contain bots or goldsellers? Try again.

lol as i said BOT is different when using coin, lol i use coin when afk mob killing and skill pt onRF but thats not BOTTing, Gold sellers? you actually believe they really sell cheap PW currency for peso? the answer is no, the site contains malicious malware. Seriously there arent someone advertsing them there nor SPAMMINg the chat thread.. go register for yourself if you dont believe.. anyways learning from just reading here in the net doesnt hold any stable grounds for any argument best you experience it

 

What exactly is the difference between a botting program and using a coin to jam a keyboard key? Other than the obvious, offcourse. I could start up the game before I go to bed, jam the key with something, then head to sleep while the character does the rest. Voila, when I wake up, I may have levelled up a couple of times (If the game uses a level-up system, which Im sure it does). In this case, I guess people would start calling players "Keyjammers" or something like that, instead of bots. Basically, theyre both the same: Character automation. One uses software, the other doesnt. Thats it.

And on the goldselling: What I'm trying to say is that it might not be spammed yet, but it will be at some point. Why? Because PW is one of those "Make cash fast, then make another MMO to do the same thing all over again" type of MMORPG. The developers will not make too much of an effort to fight goldselling. Its the same with all the other MMORPG's like it. Heck, even a game like WoW, with billions of profit income , can't effectively fight it.

Its all a matter of popularity. PW isn't as popular as some of the MMO's. That may be the reason that goldspammers aren't attracted to it yet. Can't say for sure. I hope for anyone that plays it, it will never be too popular.

PS: "anyways learning from just reading here in the net doesnt hold any stable grounds for any argument best you experience it "

I speak from an allround MMO-gaming experience. PW is a free-to-play MMO with an Item all, and let's face it, theyre all the frikkin same.

could someone add more bloom to the video? i can still make out shapes and  edges :(

Originally posted by sainthate
lol your funny when you talk about jamming the coin as a bot program, define bot program and key jamming.. both are different unless your country says the other way... about Gold sellers.. your saying becoz of the popularity of PW isnt that high so thats why? o.O your weird im sure it is popular here though. And all around MMO experience? CLAPS** your not the only one who has all AROUNd MMO experience.. and btw you clearly stated the PW has a gold spammer or gold seller already then why the heck you easily change your stand? o.O and to comment again in your all around MMO experience** i dont agree on that.. did you made that one up?

I don't think you understand what I'm saying. I'lle try to explain one more time. If you don't get it this time, I'm giving up.

A botting program versus the Keyjam Trick. They are 2 different things, but they have the same goal:

Character Automation.

I did not say the keyjam is a bot program (Duh). I said they have the same result. I'lle say it again, just in case:

Character Automation

Which brings me to a difference: Botting software for specific games is hard to come by. Yet, everyone can use the keyjam trick (Which is probably why no one actually complains about it). I hope I'm clear on this one now.

Now on to the goldselling. PW isn't as popular as say.....Requiem. Lineage 2. Ragnarok Online. WoW. Etcetera, etcetera. I didn't say it isn't popular at all. Goldsellers will be at their best (In our case, at their worst) in popular games, where the most people are playing. Why? More people basically means more profit. Now, PW could become a lot more popular in the future (As could any game). That would mean that goldsellers would bring their business in there as well, especially since a bot program wouldn't be noticed that well due to the keyjam trick.

Are you getting this? Because if not, I think your English could use some improvement, no offence. Again, if you DONT get this, Im done with this topic.

Ans on a sidenote: My MMO experience dates back to Ultima Online and Everquest. Not that I care you believe me or not.

Alright, so, get this into your head. Otherwise, I'm done wasting my time on you.

No game will dethrone WoW, unless Blizzard make WoW2 or another mmorpg. The only mmo out now with the potential do make a dent in WoW's numbers is Warhammer Online. It wont dethrone it as I believe WoW was a once in a lifetime thing. It will never happen again. Funny though to read the different fans wierd logic. Anyway, can you say asian grinder? It may look cool but I'm almost willing to bet money that it would be like all those other mmo's from Asia. Grindy like hell.

i dont under stand it. why do u ppl like wow so much. they say its too slow to lvl and i personaly hate how the char looks and the graphics are normal like any other game and i thimk there are better graphic than wow.

what attracks u so much to wow that u cant leave or stop playing it. no matter how much i look at it i feel like line age is the same as wow but better looking char so why do u stick with one game if u can play many. and by the way how long do u think wow will last, not much unless the add a new thing every week.ppl get bored from the same thing over and over i. and by the way the game looks cool i think i found wht this game is like. but just with better graphics. Spellborn. (it looks the same but this game has better graphics)

Originally posted by Arana

 

Originally posted by Teala

 

Prius Art

This game looks like it is a WoW type game, down to the graphics.   They have like 7 classes, and 3 or 4 races.   Looks interesting enough.   I think it is in closed beta 2 right now.   Don't see anything mentioned about an english version unfortuantely.

Omgomgomg, WHERE did you find that artwork? I am in LOVE with this games artwork and even have one for a wallpaper. To me who doesn't know a lick of korean the artwork is killer to find ;.; Please, oh please! Tell me where you got it at and where I can get more! *beg*

 

 

ps. I pray this comes out in english in the US! For some reason it also reminds me of PSO in a way. The Anima being your MAG and well I dunno it just does ^^;

Here is a link to the website.   Sorry it took so long to reply.   I never knew anyone cared about this game other than me.

Prius Online

Originally posted by slask777

No game will dethrone WoW, unless Blizzard make WoW2 or another mmorpg. The only mmo out now with the potential do make a dent in WoW's numbers is Warhammer Online. It wont dethrone it as I believe WoW was a once in a lifetime thing. It will never happen again. Funny though to read the different fans wierd logic. Anyway, can you say asian grinder? It may look cool but I'm almost willing to bet money that it would be like all those other mmo's from Asia. Grindy like hell.

Aion will dethrown it, might not right away but when word gets out about Aion it will take all MMO's down graphics wise, gameplay, story, and content. it already has double what WoW has in content. Armor, weapons, quests, land, pvp, etc. so I do strongly believe this will be WoW's kryptonite.

AION ftw!

I am not sure if there is an MMO out there that can take down WoW. WoW is just an abnormality. WoW got huge quick from word of mouth and good game play. Most MMO's these days are Clones one way or another. Not a bad thing but does turn people away when the word clone comes out.

i doubt this game will have any effect to wows succes but it looks it looks nice if its a f2p