Looks like Vanguard a bit....though before i get jumped on I understand the 2 are nothing alike.

But I believe it will likely fall pray to many issues Vanguard has now, low population and a huge world to explore....that is always trouble.

After the recent AoC debacle, I find it amusing that we have guys ready to jump right back on to the bandwagon. Let's see:

1. Insanely long development time? Yes.

2. Small developer? Yes.

3. Advertising every feature you could possibly want in a MMO? Yes.

The point is, with the development time that they've had, it means one of two things... Either they don't have direction with the game(ie, trying to be too much) or they don't have the funding.

After my last experience with FunCom, I think i'll stick to AAA devs from here on out.  Does a AAA developer guarantee a great MMO? No.  Are the odds a hell of a lot greater that the MMO will be good? Yes, yes it is.

Looks better then WaR? the graphics and gameplay look absolutely terrible, better graphics playing Morrowind and we all know how old that is, seriously, Darkfall is and always will become Vapourware, promise the earth deliver everything substandard, just like AoC, least that had the graphics to back it up, Darkfall is just meh.

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Originally posted by denshing

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Originally posted by MLecl0001

WAR > Darkfall, why?  WAR has a set release date.  Darkfall is vaporware.  No fanboyism or hating, just simple fact.

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Sorry, callingit vaporware is not a argument anymore, It has its latest gameplay video out, and they are taking beta aps, + they have publisher so things are coming together. "Death of VAPORWARE" Just a simple fact.

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Vaporware is still an argument and is still a skeptical conclusion, seeing how little to no actual game play was showed. Just a scripted mess. Vaporware will die when the game surfaces on the market and no other reason before that. Even Gods & Heroes had beta and it is still vaporware. Just a simple fact.

This thread beats a dead horse, along with the 20 or so that popped up with the same OP worded in a different way. I seem to remember another game with a mass amount of hype, oh ya AoC, hmmm.

Originally posted by Enigma

If you think this looks cartoony then you need eye surgery

Holy crap, thats CB? Very nice.

Darkfall is the next AOC only it won't be as good at release. Seriously this game has been in production for a LONG time and the graphics look 7 years old(sorry but no way in heck the graphics are better than WAR and no WAR is not cartoony), the features they promised are pretty grand in scope but I'll eat my shorts if they actually release with half of them working.

I'll be shocked if the game actaully comes out and I'll be something more than shocked if it isn't terrible.

Originally posted by ghoul31

Darkfall just released a new 17 minute video. It has some cool stuff. Ship battles, floating platforms to attack player built cities.  It looks a lot better than WAR at this point. And i prefer the realistic graphics to this cartoony stuff .  Of course we will have to see how beta goes

Dear God no. I am having the hardest time ever trying to understand how everyone thinks that video is so good. It looks like a game from 10 years ago.

LOL!!!!!! Are people seriously trying to compare a game that has been in development for 6 years with one gameplay video with a game that is about to release in a few weeks? Get a brain, fanbois. I feel confident you can see past the thin layer of lies and excuses.

Since no one actually did any comparison, I'll make one.

First, lets just skip the whole vaporware theme. I mean, I might as well call WAR a WoW copy. Both claims have some truth in them, but both claims also fail. Furthermore, I have no idea if Darkfall delivers what it claims but hey, I didn't start this thread. Lets just do it to pass time. 

Graphics: WAR wins this one, Mythic has way more resources to throw on pixel polish (Aventurine is independent developer with smallish team) and DF has low polycount on purpose.

PvE: WAR has some PvE, few zones here and there dedicated solely for PvE fans. Darkfall has 5 continents, of which 4 start off as PvE areas that you can venture in, and even conquer if you have the manpower. Of course the mainland also have plenty of mobs. Darkfall wins this one by a landslide.

Crafting/economy: WAR has very little crafting, whereas in DF you can craft allmost every weapon/armor/etc there is, not to mention houses, castles, ships, potions... and economy is player driven. No AI vendors where you can sell 10,000 copper short swords.  No competition here, prize goes for Darkfall.

PvP: Bread and butter of both games. WAR only offers RvR however, a form of PvP where the developers get to say who your enemy is. Met an annoying kid, but can't get him because he plays on the same side? Tough. Darkfall has FFA, something that lot of people shun, but something that does offer the freedom to forge your own 'faction', called clanwars. This brings in politics, allies, backstabbing, resourcewars, piracy etc. And DF also has RvR, just in more loose form, all player races are in a constant state of war with at least 3 other race, but it's not forced. I guess it comes down to which one you prefer: freedom or someone else telling you who to hit.

Lets call it a draw.

Sieging: Both games have this. But Darkfall has player owned castles and cities you can lay siege on, conquer or burn to ground. In WAR you'll siege the same places over and over and over again... on every server. Darkfall wins.

Exploring: Darkfall has 5 whole continents to explore with hundreds of quests, WAR is rather small. Nuff said.

Skils/classes: Comes down to which one you prefer, skill based or class based. Not sure how many classes WAR has but DF has 500 skills/spells. I'm sure you can find a combination that'll suite you.

Combat style: Autoaim versus no autoaim. Which one sounds more fun?

Piracy: Deserves a section of it's own because... well damn, who wouldn't want to be a pirate? Darkfall has it, WAR does not.

Flame on!

Originally posted by brostyn

LOL!!!!!! Are people seriously trying to compare a game that has been in development for 6 years with one gameplay video with a game that is about to release in a few weeks? Get a brain, fanbois. I feel confident you can see past the thin layer of lies and excuses.

Agreed , I seriously cannot believe people are even thinking about this, if people wanna follow DF go ahead I dont really care I've had my share of DF, but this poor video is released NO ONE has ever played DF NO ONE and these fanbois jump in and try to compare it to a game hundreds of thousands of people have played lol.

all i have to say with darkfall vs WAR (apart from the fact PvP(RvR) looks much more fun in WAR) is that i see no incentive to siege a enemy guilds ship/city in darkfall, were as WAR has incentives in place that grease the PvP(RvR) gears that work (ive playedWAR) 

Originally posted by sandboxy

Since no one actually did any comparison, I'll make one.

First, lets just skip the whole vaporware theme. I mean, I might as well call WAR a WoW copy. Both claims have some truth in them, but both claims also fail. Furthermore, I have no idea if Darkfall delivers what it claims but hey, I didn't start this thread. Lets just do it to pass time. 

 

Graphics: WAR wins this one, Mythic has way more resources to throw on pixel polish (Aventurine is independent developer with smallish team) and DF has low polycount on purpose.

PvE: WAR has some PvE, few zones here and there dedicated solely for PvE fans. Darkfall has 5 continents, of which 4 start off as PvE areas that you can venture in, and even conquer if you have the manpower. Of course the mainland also have plenty of mobs. Darkfall wins this one by a landslide.

Crafting/economy: WAR has very little crafting, whereas in DF you can craft allmost every weapon/armor/etc there is, not to mention houses, castles, ships, potions... and economy is player driven. No AI vendors where you can sell 10,000 copper short swords.  No competition here, prize goes for Darkfall.

PvP: Bread and butter of both games. WAR only offers RvR however, a form of PvP where the developers get to say who your enemy is. Met an annoying kid, but can't get him because he plays on the same side? Tough. Darkfall has FFA, something that lot of people shun, but something that does offer the freedom to forge your own 'faction', called clanwars. This brings in politics, allies, backstabbing, resourcewars, piracy etc. And DF also has RvR, just in more loose form, all player races are in a constant state of war with at least 3 other race, but it's not forced. I guess it comes down to which one you prefer: freedom or someone else telling you who to hit.

Lets call it a draw.

Sieging: Both games have this. But Darkfall has player owned castles and cities you can lay siege on, conquer or burn to ground. In WAR you'll siege the same places over and over and over again... on every server. Darkfall wins.

Exploring: Darkfall has 5 whole continents to explore with hundreds of quests, WAR is rather small. Nuff said.

Skils/classes: Comes down to which one you prefer, skill based or class based. Not sure how many classes WAR has but DF has 500 skills/spells. I'm sure you can find a combination that'll suite you.

Combat style: Autoaim versus no autoaim. Which one sounds more fun?

Piracy: Deserves a section of it's own because... well damn, who wouldn't want to be a pirate? Darkfall has it, WAR does not.

Flame on!

 

And how do you know all this? from the video of characters wacking each other? LOL have you played DF to backup your "facts" ?!  Have you played in these 5 continents? Have you experienced crafting in DF? Your opinion is based only on lines written on a website.

I played darkfall back when it was called shadowbane(only SB graphics were better than darkfalls are) and I just didn't like it all that much. FFA PvP sounds good and all but it generally leads to a lack of PvP more than anything.

Good job Sandboxy for making urself look like an idiot for ur 1st post lol.

Originally posted by Honeymoon69

Good job Sandboxy for making urself look like an idiot for ur 1st post lol.

 

 

LOL.  Wonder who's alt that is?

Originally posted by rav3n2

Originally posted by sandboxy

Since no one actually did any comparison, I'll make one.

First, lets just skip the whole vaporware theme. I mean, I might as well call WAR a WoW copy. Both claims have some truth in them, but both claims also fail. Furthermore, I have no idea if Darkfall delivers what it claims but hey, I didn't start this thread. Lets just do it to pass time. 

 

Graphics: WAR wins this one, Mythic has way more resources to throw on pixel polish (Aventurine is independent developer with smallish team) and DF has low polycount on purpose.

PvE: WAR has some PvE, few zones here and there dedicated solely for PvE fans. Darkfall has 5 continents, of which 4 start off as PvE areas that you can venture in, and even conquer if you have the manpower. Of course the mainland also have plenty of mobs. Darkfall wins this one by a landslide.

Crafting/economy: WAR has very little crafting, whereas in DF you can craft allmost every weapon/armor/etc there is, not to mention houses, castles, ships, potions... and economy is player driven. No AI vendors where you can sell 10,000 copper short swords.  No competition here, prize goes for Darkfall.

PvP: Bread and butter of both games. WAR only offers RvR however, a form of PvP where the developers get to say who your enemy is. Met an annoying kid, but can't get him because he plays on the same side? Tough. Darkfall has FFA, something that lot of people shun, but something that does offer the freedom to forge your own 'faction', called clanwars. This brings in politics, allies, backstabbing, resourcewars, piracy etc. And DF also has RvR, just in more loose form, all player races are in a constant state of war with at least 3 other race, but it's not forced. I guess it comes down to which one you prefer: freedom or someone else telling you who to hit.

Lets call it a draw.

Sieging: Both games have this. But Darkfall has player owned castles and cities you can lay siege on, conquer or burn to ground. In WAR you'll siege the same places over and over and over again... on every server. Darkfall wins.

Exploring: Darkfall has 5 whole continents to explore with hundreds of quests, WAR is rather small. Nuff said.

Skils/classes: Comes down to which one you prefer, skill based or class based. Not sure how many classes WAR has but DF has 500 skills/spells. I'm sure you can find a combination that'll suite you.

Combat style: Autoaim versus no autoaim. Which one sounds more fun?

Piracy: Deserves a section of it's own because... well damn, who wouldn't want to be a pirate? Darkfall has it, WAR does not.

Flame on!

 

 

And how do you know all this? from the video of characters wacking each other? LOL have you played DF to backup your "facts" ?!  Have you played in these 5 continents? Have you experienced crafting in DF? Your opinion is based only on lines written on a website.

Did yuo miss the part where I wrote: "I have no idea if Darkfall delivers what it claims but hey, I didn't start this thread. Lets just do it to pass time."
 

Yes it's speculation, don't take it so seriously.

Originally posted by blisterfist

all i have to say with darkfall vs WAR (apart from the fact PvP(RvR) looks much more fun in WAR) is that i see no incentive to siege a enemy guilds ship/city in darkfall, were as WAR has incentives in place that grease the PvP(RvR) gears that work (ive playedWAR)

WAR PvP is very slow looking and with autoaim, it will quickly turn stale. Or at least it has in every other autoaim game I've played. And saying that DF PvP has no incentives is like saying EVE PvP has no incentives, you'll controll the resources, areas (mines and whatnot), you'll play the politics between different guilds and so on.

Originally posted by Honeymoon69 

Good job Sandboxy for making urself look like an idiot for ur 1st post lol.

Hey, if you can't come up with a good counterargument, you can always use the lameflame option!
Btw, next time you call someone an idiot, learn to use proper english. Makes it look less stupid
 

I watched the video. Well, I say good luck Darkfall followers, you will need it.

yea that video didnt seem that impressive, but thats just my opinion.

WAR pvp looks slow? maybe but its definitely not, at least not playing a shaman. Im constantly running around trying to heal and toss some dps out and trying not to get mauled by melee, i dont think i ever stand still unless im way in the back tossing big heals

Originally posted by dmathewsfl

yea that video didnt seem that impressive, but thats just my opinion.

 

WAR pvp looks slow? maybe but its definitely not, at least not playing a shaman. Im constantly running around trying to heal and toss some dps out and trying not to get mauled by melee, i dont think i ever stand still unless im way in the back tossing big heals

Careful. If your opinion doesn't praise DF as the second coming, you are a uncreative, lazy person with poor taste who needs to be spoonfed everything and doesn't value -TRUE- games.

All hail DF.

P.S.: Just in case....sarcasm may be kept when found.

Originally posted by singsofdeath

Originally posted by dmathewsfl

yea that video didnt seem that impressive, but thats just my opinion.

 

WAR pvp looks slow? maybe but its definitely not, at least not playing a shaman. Im constantly running around trying to heal and toss some dps out and trying not to get mauled by melee, i dont think i ever stand still unless im way in the back tossing big heals

 

Careful. If your opinion doesn't praise DF as the second coming, you are a uncreative, lazy person with poor taste who needs to be spoonfed everything and doesn't value -TRUE- games.

 

All hail DF.

lol

Originally posted by singsofdeath

Originally posted by dmathewsfl

yea that video didnt seem that impressive, but thats just my opinion.

 

WAR pvp looks slow? maybe but its definitely not, at least not playing a shaman. Im constantly running around trying to heal and toss some dps out and trying not to get mauled by melee, i dont think i ever stand still unless im way in the back tossing big heals

 

Careful. If your opinion doesn't praise DF as the second coming, you are a uncreative, lazy person with poor taste who needs to be spoonfed everything and doesn't value -TRUE- games.

 

All hail DF.

Hehe, nice try but that's not me. I wasn't overly impressed with the new video, it just more or less shows that the game is there and that they've managed to make the hardests parts function, mass PvP and naval warfare. Graphically it does not impress. But what did you expect from an independent developer?
 

Originally posted by sandboxy

Originally posted by singsofdeath

Originally posted by dmathewsfl

yea that video didnt seem that impressive, but thats just my opinion.

 

WAR pvp looks slow? maybe but its definitely not, at least not playing a shaman. Im constantly running around trying to heal and toss some dps out and trying not to get mauled by melee, i dont think i ever stand still unless im way in the back tossing big heals

 

Careful. If your opinion doesn't praise DF as the second coming, you are a uncreative, lazy person with poor taste who needs to be spoonfed everything and doesn't value -TRUE- games.

 

All hail DF.

Hehe, nice try but that's not me. I wasn't overly impressed with the new video, it just more or less shows that the game is there and that they've managed to make the hardests parts function, mass PvP and naval warfare. Graphically it does not impress. But what did you expect from an independent developer?
 

I wasn't replying to you specifically. More to a rabid horde of fanbois, some of whom have themselves admitted to thinking exactly the way that I described in my post. Apologies if it seemed like I was aiming that at you personally.

posted this already 3 times, but oh well...  every time I hear WAR and cartoony -> look at this

Originally posted by singsofdeath

 

I wasn't replying to you specifically. More to a rabid horde of fanbois, some of whom have themselves admitted to thinking exactly the way that I described in my post. Apologies if it seemed like I was aiming that at you personally.

Apology accepted

But I'm a bit disappointed that no one has tried to counterattack my claims in my original post... could it be that they can't?

Originally posted by sandboxy

Originally posted by singsofdeath

 

I wasn't replying to you specifically. More to a rabid horde of fanbois, some of whom have themselves admitted to thinking exactly the way that I described in my post. Apologies if it seemed like I was aiming that at you personally.

 

Apology accepted

 

But I'm a bit disappointed that no one has tried to counterattack my claims in my original post... could it be that they can't?

No, but there is no reason to. *shrugs*

Comparing Darkfall with WAR is about the same as...hmmm, comparing EVE to WoW for lack of Sci-Fi alternatives.

Comparing a Sandbox to a Theme-Park does not work, because the goals are placed differently. You'd have to take in a lot more things than the few points you pointed out to draw in all of the appeal from each game. And at the end of the day, it comes down to which kind of game you prefer. A sandbox or a "casual" MMO? Both can be fun, both can be good, but they do not compare to each other.