Well I just got done watching the HD video for the 3rd time and this is what I think. The graphics are not great but not bad either, they are about average. The animation looked to be a little jumpy but I think this had more to do with the way the video was taken than the game itself but it may be a little of both. The game play was in a word.....AWESOME! The battles were fast paced with obvious manual aim and dodge. Not really a lot of coverage of the crafting system but that's to be expected in a video of this type. The only thing I was really disappointed in was there was not enough PvE coverage in the video. I was hoping to see some of this revolutionary AI they have bragged about but it really couldn't be seen in the few snippets of PvE that we saw. Oh well plenty of time to see that for myself in the beta. Overall a very satisfying video. Great work Aventurine!

Bren

Originally posted by Brenelael

Well I just got done watching the HD video for the 3rd time and this is what I think. The graphics are not great but not bad either, they are about average. The animation looked to be a little jumpy but I think this had more to do with the way the video was taken than the game itself but it may be a little of both. The game play was in a word.....AWESOME! The battles were fast paced with obvious manual aim and dodge. Not really a lot of coverage of the crafting system but that's to be expected in a video of this type. The only thing I was really disappointed in was there was not enough PvE coverage in the video. I was hoping to see some of this revolutionary AI they have bragged about but it really couldn't be seen in the few snippets of PvE that we saw. Oh well plenty of time to see that for myself in the beta. Overall a very satisfying video. Great work Aventurine!

 

Bren

Ugh i completely forgot to mention this...the ability to dodge projectiles!!!

Player skill meaning something again!!!!

And i agree with the lack of pvp, there were a few fights in there.  The zombie things and that big dual weilding knight thing comes to mind, but i wish i could have seen more.  But yea, beta please.

Entertaining video for sure. Graphics while not amazing are decent enough for a mmorpg. The animations were very stiff and unnatural though animations do tend to be one of the last things to get optimized. Combat looks intense and by that I also mean completely chaotic. Whether that's good or bad remains to be seen. What's with the hovercraft-like vehicles? While they certainly looked cool they felt out of place. I also wasn't impressed with how the buildings just disappeared under your feet as they get destroyed leaving you to fall to the ground. I also wished they would of showed at least some of the video from a 1st person perspective instead of all 3rd person. Overall though, I have to say the game at least looks fun and that's really what matters but I'll reserve judgment until we get some beta reports.

 So, this is the fruit of a team working for almost 10 years? Not impressed at all:

1. Outdated graphics, jerky movement, unrealistic effects

2. Aesthetics (which are well obviously subjective) leave a very bad taste

3. Battles are a complete chaos: so far the best you have seen are battles with only 20-30 characters. Imagine fights with 10x that. There is a reason some games flag people as enemy or friend

4. In an attempt to justify the development stage, they gave something of everything: airborne vehicles (???!!!lol) ships that obviously need a lot more... etc..

5. In short: no scope, tries to make everyone happy (which is impossible) giving it 99% chance to fail

Needs a lot of polishing, still very far away from beta, looks as if its not a product thats supposed to hit the market, and even if they try for a launch this Oct as they call it pilot or whatelse, still very early beta

Originally posted by ddev

 So, this is the fruit of a team working for almost 10 years? Not impressed at all:

1. Outdated graphics, jerky movement, unrealistic effects

2. Aesthetics (which are well obviously subjective) leave a very bad taste

3. Battles are a complete chaos: so far the best you have seen are battles with only 20-30 characters. Imagine fights with 10x that. There is a reason some games flag people as enemy or friend

4. In an attempt to justify the development stage, they gave something of everything: airborne vehicles (???!!!lol) ships that obviously need a lot more... etc..

5. In short: no scope, tries to make everyone happy (which is impossible) giving it 99% chance to fail

 

Needs a lot of polishing, still very far away from beta, looks as if its not a product thats supposed to hit the market, and even if they try for a launch this Oct as they call it pilot or whatelse, still very early beta

Great.  Don't play!

Originally posted by ermorden

Great.  Don't play!

play what? it's still vapors son.

Originally posted by ddev

Originally posted by ermorden

Great.  Don't play!

play what? it's still vapors son.

 

nope

The graphics look fine, I think what alot of people are referring to are the animations, which indeed do need alot of work.

The animations really need time to be worked on. I mean, you cant just have objects disappearing when you destroy them - thats just silly and even I, who is willing to sacrifice gameplay for graphics, cant really compete with. This game definitly could use another year of development and another year of beta testing before it comes out. God knows how many bugs lurk in the game.

But - it isnt vaporware. Congrats DF fans, you got some good long footage on your hands.

HAHAHA!! I love the boat fight! ......Did you notice my sarcasm.  I am sorry to say this but they should not even bothered with the boat fights.   It made me laugh through the whole thing.   The ships sinking was stupid and when the shipped dissapeared.  There was just a circle flash and than vanish!  The cannons firing and the explosions need to be polished.  Really badly!   So they really did not pay attention to detail on that part.    I actually liked the fighting that was impressive.  I really liked the archers that was really cool.     I also really liked the landscaping and the building.  

I have not really kept up to date with DF.  I actually do not pay attention to it at all.

*note*  They need to polish the crap out of this game before releasing it.

I just finished the 600mb download, and I wasn't very impressed with what they had to show at all. I have been following Darkfall for years as a fan, but I cannot see how they hope to launch this game sometime before January with these graphics, gameplay and animations; unless they are planning some sort of major overhaul for the beta and launch in the next few months.  It looks like a game from four or five years ago.

And yes, I do believe that good graphics do not necessarily make a good overall game, but in this case it's still a major turn-off for me.
 

Mixed feelings about the PvP. It looks very fun, especially love the blood, archery and mounted combat - but it seemed a little too chaotic. The ship-to-ship combat looked very poor to me, besides the PvP boarding. Magic looks bland and on par with Everquest 1.

Some of the scenery looks superb, towns and villages, certain landscapes - but others looked like they belonged on a Playstation 2 game.

I was thrilled when I logged into the forums and saw multiple "DARKFALL VIDEO RELEASED ZOMG!!" threads, expecting to see a mixed bag of features, especially some social aspects of the game, the UI, anything besides combat really.. so I'm dissapointed overall.

But I'm happy for Darkfall fans, I hope you enjoyed the video. Keep fighting the trolls, you'll get your game.

Originally posted by Narshe

I just finished the 600mb download, and I wasn't very impressed with what they had to show at all. I have been following Darkfall for years as a fan, but I cannot see how they hope to launch this game sometime before January with these graphics, gameplay and animations; unless they are planning some sort of major overhaul for the beta and launch in the next few months.  It looks like a game from four or five years ago.

And yes, I do believe that good graphics do not necessarily make a good overall game, but in this case it's still a major turn-off for me.
 

Mixed feelings about the PvP. It looks very fun, especially love the blood, archery and mounted combat - but it seemed a little too chaotic. The ship-to-ship combat looked very poor to me, besides the PvP boarding. Magic looks bland and on par with Everquest 1.

Some of the scenery looks superb, towns and villages, certain landscapes - but others looked like they belonged on a Playstation 2 game.

I was thrilled when I logged into the forums and saw multiple "DARKFALL VIDEO RELEASED ZOMG!!" threads, expecting to see a mixed bag of features, especially some social aspects of the game, the UI, anything besides combat really.. so I'm dissapointed overall.

But I'm happy for Darkfall fans, I hope you enjoyed the video. Keep fighting the trolls, you'll get your game.

 

 

you do relise that was medium settings mostly
 

Well I got 9 minutes into the video and got bored and turned if off.  Graphics and animations are subpar for an MMO being relesed this day and age. But I did like how people flew back when blasted with a fireball or other spells. THe best was when the dude flew off the cliff.   I also liked how you could sit on top of a castle or whatnot and shoot arrows at people.  But other than that if they don't do a graphics upgrade I wont play.

I can already hear it already, game play is better than graphics, but what can I say Im a graphics whore, just as much as a game play whore. I think to make a good game you have to have a good combination of  both.  Kinda like in a relationship, you need mental and physical attraction for things to work.   Now with that said, I can spare some eye candy for better game play but this game looks like EQ1and that game was released like almost 10 years ago thats just ridiculous.

But hey don't let my opinions stop anyone else from playing. 

Originally posted by cukimunga

Well I got 9 minutes into the video and got bored and turned if off.  Graphics and animations are subpar for an MMO being relesed this day and age. But I did like how people flew back when blasted with a fireball or other spells. THe best was when the dude flew off the cliff.   I also liked how you could sit on top of a castle or whatnot and shoot arrows at people.  But other than that if they don't do a graphics upgrade I wont play.

 

I can already hear it already, game play is better than graphics, but what can I say Im a graphics whore, just as much as a game play whore. I think to make a good game you have to have a good combination of  both.  Kinda like in a relationship, you need mental and physical attraction for things to work.   Now with that said, I can spare some eye candy for better game play but this game looks like EQ1and that game was released like almost 10 years ago thats just ridiculous.

 

But hey don't let my opinions stop anyone else from playing. 

gfx are medium settings brannoc confirmed it in irc after the vid came out

Originally posted by originalegg

so has anyone gotten excited about a certain combat type after seeing this video that maybe they didnt care for before?

The knockback spells made me drool and once i get to test the game, Im definitely going to explore the spell trees more than I originally planned to. 

While the archer scenes were amazing, i have just never been into the ranger/hunter type classes before.  Maybe something like a battlemage who knows...cool thing is there are no classes and all i have to do is just train up the others skills!  woah freedom, who would have thought?

Also curious about healing.

I'm curious about the healing too. I forecast a lot of perching and ranged combat. Being a melee toon is going to suck. The low poly graphics are actually encouraging. It means they're allowing for more toons onscreen at once. The textures are fairly good.  The animations are horrid but I can live with that. Latency is going to be a huge issue for many. Should be a real gankfest.

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by originalegg

so has anyone gotten excited about a certain combat type after seeing this video that maybe they didnt care for before?

The knockback spells made me drool and once i get to test the game, Im definitely going to explore the spell trees more than I originally planned to. 

While the archer scenes were amazing, i have just never been into the ranger/hunter type classes before.  Maybe something like a battlemage who knows...cool thing is there are no classes and all i have to do is just train up the others skills!  woah freedom, who would have thought?

Also curious about healing.

 

I'm curious about the healing too. I forecast a lot of perching and ranged combat. Being a melee toon is going to suck. The low poly graphics are actually encouraging. It means they're allowing for more toons onscreen at once. The textures are fairly good.  The animations are horrid but I can live with that. Latency is going to be a huge issue for many. Should be a real gankfest.

I think there piroity was to get a feature complete game then polish animations and stuff im sure someof that stuff will be worked on before release
 

I couldnt get anything out of brannoc on this one because of the nda in place><

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by originalegg

so has anyone gotten excited about a certain combat type after seeing this video that maybe they didnt care for before?

The knockback spells made me drool and once i get to test the game, Im definitely going to explore the spell trees more than I originally planned to. 

While the archer scenes were amazing, i have just never been into the ranger/hunter type classes before.  Maybe something like a battlemage who knows...cool thing is there are no classes and all i have to do is just train up the others skills!  woah freedom, who would have thought?

Also curious about healing.

 

I'm curious about the healing too. I forecast a lot of perching and ranged combat. Being a melee toon is going to suck. The low poly graphics are actually encouraging. It means they're allowing for more toons onscreen at once. The textures are fairly good.  The animations are horrid but I can live with that. Latency is going to be a huge issue for many. Should be a real gankfest.

I feared that too, but you know the thing is there ARE no classes. So you can be a tank with some spells to fend off ranged people. Its not pure melee, but you got to adapt. I hope close combat has a good chance. And I think with the friendly fire of damage and healing spells, swords are safer.

As for graphics, yeah the video was recorded on the in house test computers at medium settings.

Originally posted by downtoearth

you do relise that was medium settings mostly
 

Yes, it dosen`t change my opinion.

Originally posted by downtoearth

Originally posted by ddev

Originally posted by ermorden

Great.  Don't play!

play what? it's still vapors son.

 

nope

yepe

Or else, show me where to get it...

Loved the action pack video.  Yeah the graphics are not the bext, but they are decent.  All the freedom within this games makes up for it ten fold.  Never seen a trailer with this much in it.   It definitely has me drooling to play.  No levels, entirely skill based.  Not to mention the open looting.  I have long missed the days of UO with open looting...I can now satisfy that hunger.

Originally posted by downtoearth

Originally posted by cukimunga

Well I got 9 minutes into the video and got bored and turned if off.  Graphics and animations are subpar for an MMO being relesed this day and age. But I did like how people flew back when blasted with a fireball or other spells. THe best was when the dude flew off the cliff.   I also liked how you could sit on top of a castle or whatnot and shoot arrows at people.  But other than that if they don't do a graphics upgrade I wont play.

 

I can already hear it already, game play is better than graphics, but what can I say Im a graphics whore, just as much as a game play whore. I think to make a good game you have to have a good combination of  both.  Kinda like in a relationship, you need mental and physical attraction for things to work.   Now with that said, I can spare some eye candy for better game play but this game looks like EQ1and that game was released like almost 10 years ago thats just ridiculous.

 

But hey don't let my opinions stop anyone else from playing. 

 

gfx are medium settings brannoc confirmed it in irc after the vid came out

So are all the WAR videos and i think that Warhammers graphics are better.  The character models just blah to me. Some of the landscaping is pretty good but still. Im just not impressed by a game thats been developed for as long as it has.   

But I guess it all just comes down to opinion I guess. What I think looks like crap could be the most beautiful thing in the world to someone else.

Originally posted by ddev

Originally posted by downtoearth

Originally posted by ddev

Originally posted by ermorden

Great.  Don't play!

play what? it's still vapors son.

 

nope

 

yepe

Or else, show me where to get it...

Show me where to get any game that ISN'T RELEASE YET. Guess Spore, Force Unleashed, Warhammer, Stalker, all vaporwarz..

well graphics < gameplay is my rule.  the graphics are lackluster at best but the gameplay looks decent.  one thing i will say i am an environment man.  i love detailed and packed landscapes and Darkfall wont deliver on that (wasn't expecting it to).

one thing that was missing from the videos that worried me a tad was the lack of anything but players...its nice to kill players but i need to vent my frustrations on animals/monsters eventually

still +1 for the darkfall community and +1 cred to the devs (even if it took so long to release the vid).  also +1 to the devs ego for saying 2008 in the videos (until i see mobs and/or public beta of any sort i doubt 2008 will be Darkfalls year).

Look harder to the video, they are fighting some undead, Sagayel and black knights there.

It does look like there is a game there and that it will see some form of release. I think in the end the game has been in the oven too long, the graphics look incredibly dated and the animations are sub par to say the least.

I think we all need this game to at least make some money so indi developers who are trying to break the mold dont become lessons learnt for the larger mmomakers to point at and say, " THATS why we dont try anything different".

I am an explorer at heart and this game seems to have a huge landmass so I will probably try it, just a shame that landmass looks so 90's. Lets hope the gameplay makes up for it!.

But on a possitive note for those who like this type of gameworld... theres always that Mortal Online game.

OP has been updated with another link to a streaming video version of the full video.  The quality is better than the youtube version, but not as good as the torrent.

Enjoy and please PM any other good mirror for the video, as I may miss them in this thread from here on out.