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General Discussion  » Group mentality in Ryzom

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  metalhead980

Apprentice Member

Joined: 6/11/08
Posts: 2699

 
8/28/08 2:38:38 PM#1

 

Not only is this game freaking Epic, The community is as well.

Players group up in hunting parties, group up to gather, group for pvp and even group up just to socialize.

If you do solo and end up dying you can ask in region chat for a rez and 99% of the time a kind player will come running.

It's amazing

Ryzom might not be for everyone but it's certainly my saving grace mmo.

PLaying: EvE, Ryzom

Waiting For: Earthrise, Perpetuum

  QSatu

Hard Core Member

Joined: 10/14/06
Posts: 1167

8/28/08 3:10:35 PM#2

I have to agree. I started 3 day ago and grouped 6 times already. I met tons of friendly ppl. In no other game I played in a party as much as I do now in Ryzom. When I arrived on the main land some nice girl crafted me armour and weapon. Other player helped me to lvl up so i could wear those new items. Both of them were much stronger than me and yet they wanted to help such newbie as me =P

  Lydon

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/20/06
Posts: 2766

8/28/08 3:30:07 PM#3

I've had exactly the same experience. People have ran to help me and showered me with gifts because "that's how things work in this game."

  MaDSaM

Novice Member

Joined: 12/29/05
Posts: 626

www.ryzom-movies.de

8/28/08 6:48:12 PM#4

Resistance is futile.

Your mind will be ryzomed!

One World, One mind!!

 

CU

SaM


Ryzom, we dare to be different.
Do you dare to adapt?

  Sxarlet

Novice Member

Joined: 5/13/05
Posts: 112

8/28/08 7:29:39 PM#5
Originally posted by TwilightEdge

I have to agree. I started 3 day ago and grouped 6 times already. I met tons of friendly ppl. In no other game I played in a party as much as I do now in Ryzom. When I arrived on the main land some nice girl crafted me armour and weapon. Other player helped me to lvl up so i could wear those new items. Both of them were much stronger than me and yet they wanted to help such newbie as me =P

 

Fun thing is, if new players learn that is the way of ryzom, to be helpful and friendly... The new players will copy it, and learn it to even newer players.... Weird how that works.

 

What i am wondering about, will all you guys get a subscription if that is what needed to keep playing?

  metalhead980

Apprentice Member

Joined: 6/11/08
Posts: 2699

 
8/28/08 9:03:06 PM#6
Originally posted by Sxarlet
Originally posted by TwilightEdge

I have to agree. I started 3 day ago and grouped 6 times already. I met tons of friendly ppl. In no other game I played in a party as much as I do now in Ryzom. When I arrived on the main land some nice girl crafted me armour and weapon. Other player helped me to lvl up so i could wear those new items. Both of them were much stronger than me and yet they wanted to help such newbie as me =P

 

Fun thing is, if new players learn that is the way of ryzom, to be helpful and friendly... The new players will copy it, and learn it to even newer players.... Weird how that works.

 

What i am wondering about, will all you guys get a subscription if that is what needed to keep playing?

 

Yeah, I was ready to sub to this game within the first 30 minutes playing.

 

PLaying: EvE, Ryzom

Waiting For: Earthrise, Perpetuum

  Korgak

Novice Member

Joined: 12/22/07
Posts: 21

8/29/08 12:14:10 AM#7

I've started played Ryzom for the first time only a few days ago and it has to be one of the best mmorpg's Ive run into.  It's worlds apart from the cookie cutter games out in the market right now.

 

The only thing irks me slightly is a sudden appearance of trolls in Silan chat.  I'm hoping these will die off soon when the game re-establishes a monthly payment system.

  jackoba

Novice Member

Joined: 12/12/05
Posts: 127

8/29/08 1:57:31 AM#8

trolls in silan/uni chat will soon be clamped down on, next whine on mmorpg will be about censorship trust me

until then, /ignore is your friend.

 

 

  Souvec

Novice Member

Joined: 2/03/06
Posts: 703

Keeper of
the Fence

8/29/08 6:21:37 AM#9
Originally posted by Korgak

The only thing irks me slightly is a sudden appearance of trolls in Silan chat.  I'm hoping these will die off soon when the game re-establishes a monthly payment system.

Most likely it will as it had before.  Given the open free and unlimited trial it has brought a lot of people and diversity with it.  

Some good, some bad.

  Sherkalyn

Novice Member

Joined: 8/28/08
Posts: 105

"Time is an illusion... Lunchtime doubly so."
-Douglas Adams

8/29/08 10:56:13 PM#10

Well you'll maybe think I'm crazy, but I think there's 2 kind of trolls in Uni chat :

- The first one are the friendly fuzzy (crazy?) ones that just go on goofing around, talking about inoffensive/silly things, jumping from a subject to another. Those, the GMs will generally leave alone as long as questions get answered.

-The second one are the stinky rude hostile ones that don't realize that Ryzom isn't their usual game. They generally get ignored / muted and weed themselves out quite quickly.

The Ryzom community has always been particularly helpful and welcoming, but that applies only to young homins that show the same potential maturity as the rest of the community. On the other end, quite ironically, it has also always been pretty good at making "Type B" trolls feel quite unwelcomed. Some will call it elitism, I call it natural selection. Most "Type Bs" generally don't remain a long time and vanish as quick as they came.

Let's hope that the current flow of new players will still weed itself out from "Type Bs".

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Sherkalyn
Crazy Marshmallow Lady
Guild Leader of The Exodus Syndicate in Ryzom
"Experience Perfection :: Unharness Your Power"
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  MaDSaM

Novice Member

Joined: 12/29/05
Posts: 626

www.ryzom-movies.de

8/30/08 7:57:08 AM#11

Hmyeah, it´s almost the same on Leanon, though the Type Bs tend to congregate into one or two "special" guilds where they find "likeminded" individuals...

Anyway, what I find very strange and annoying is the tendency of new players to log-on drunk...

I´ve never seen so many : "Man, I´m drunk/stoned out of my f*ing mind here." comments on Universe than in the last few days. And sadly those Idiots tend to wait with their babble until the last CSR has left for the night.

But, what really scares me, is the tendency of new players to really expect rude behavior as the norm in any MMO they visit. They´re used to be yelled at, being called names and either offended or ignored by older players.

Why in the name of god do people always bring out their worst in such games and why do people get USED TO THIS?

The anonymity might be one point for this and the E-peen mentality of many young players that developed over the years seems to help too, but why is that so?

Why does a competative virtual environment almost always bring people down to the mental level of a Neanderthal, rather than that of a member of information age society? Or are they one and the same?

To quote Terry Pratchett in slightly modified form:

MMORPGs are a business like a dairy-farm. You try to get out the maximum of milk with a minimum amount of moo. It seems all we get these days is moo.

Many that come to Ryzom and are patient enough or have the luck of not seeing the (at the moment) few exceptions from our norm, are quite surprised to find that its not like they´re used to from other games around there.

Others, either ignore the Chats from the beginning, thinking they´re like anywhere else, or happen upon the few rotten fruitcakes and tend to judge us as "one and the same as elsewhere.". *sigh*

Again, why is that so? Why is it considered cool to be rude and great to be a shithead the size of Mount Rushmore? Why this rotten behavior? Why are people surprised to find us different?

Do you expect to go into a new, decent pup and be called a NOOB for asking if they´ve got Budweiser?

Do you go into a new Job and expect to be fired right away because you don´t know the way to the Boss-Office?

Do you expect to learn a new real life craft and be shouted at, because you asked a master to show you how its done?

No. - So why do people expect to see this kind of behavior in an MMORPG?

Any Ideas?

 Edit: Ah, and another thing.

Why do some Type Bs hang on? If they don´t like the game, don´t like the (insert name of random feature)? Why don´t they just go to somewhere they like better?

Some folks really like to be offensive and the "rebel without a cause" image seems to be rather attractive to these people, but why? Just to snub the status Q, as some of them claim? To torment the idiots that don´t like them/offended them/hate them with their presence?

I don´t know and I´m not sure I want to know.

To each his/her own, I say, but if its at the cost of others then No.

 

CU

SaM


Ryzom, we dare to be different.
Do you dare to adapt?

  bigbeardxl

Novice Member

Joined: 6/25/08
Posts: 53

8/31/08 10:02:31 PM#12

I agree OP, I installed Ryzom a week ago and it's still blowing my mind. The community is what really gets me but the freedom to do whatever whenever is awesome.

I have not had this kind of fun like running with groupies from a serious wipe from 8 Kipees(sp?) in a long time. I get to explore huge zones and build my character the way I want and still be effective. I feel freedom in ryzom right now and it feels good.

  AtysTrader

Novice Member

Joined: 8/06/07
Posts: 63

9/01/08 2:54:00 AM#13

I totally agree with the OP here but would just like to add something:

1. When we talk about mentality it's not just the community that shapes but also the world itself. The unique landscapes, the living ecosystems, the places fit for mediation more than actual gameplay. After playing ryzom well over 3 years i still often log  just to sit quietly in one of my favourite corners of the world and look at the beautiful scenery.

2. The interesting thing about this is the reproductive ability of the community. The new players soon get infected by the mentality and start spreading the "love" themselves ;) The process takes mere days :) It is a wondrous feeling to see people change like that really :) 

 

  Sasi

Novice Member

Joined: 8/31/07
Posts: 144

9/02/08 11:56:27 AM#14

I've been happily watching as people who've been playing for mere days begin to shepherd and guide the newest of the new.  Random acts of kindness happen every minute.  Groups are formed, friendships are begun.

I'm walking around with a big grin these days, thinking about getting home and logging in.

===============================
Sasi
Guild Leader of Pegasus Foundation
in Ryzom

  User Deleted
9/06/08 7:49:01 PM#15

It actually creeps me out how nice everyone is.

I asked someone where I should dig for mats, and he said where are you, so I told him. A few minutes he shows up with bags full of mats and give me money too!

 

Creepy..i wont drink the cool-aid no matter how nice you are to me!

  Balgus

Novice Member

Joined: 7/23/06
Posts: 4

9/07/08 1:30:26 AM#16
Originally posted by neoterrar

It actually creeps me out how nice everyone is.

I asked someone where I should dig for mats, and he said where are you, so I told him. A few minutes he shows up with bags full of mats and give me money too!

 

Creepy..i wont drink the cool-aid no matter how nice you are to me!

Classic

  firefly2003

Elite Member

Joined: 1/16/08
Posts: 2109

SINE QUA NON

9/07/08 9:00:44 PM#17

Ive being playing this game for my only second day and Im hooked on it ! :D The community is great and very helpful in answering your noob questions and its quite a breath of fresh air from all the cookie cutter games out there at the moment still waiting on Darkfall though :D but I will play this I think for a long while also :)

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  Devildog1

Novice Member

Joined: 8/30/06
Posts: 495

Ryzom: Znathara
Ryzom: Jynxie
Ryzom: Bahira
RIP
SWG: Zanthar Brothen (Bloodfin)

9/08/08 10:42:39 AM#18
Originally posted by Sherkalyn

Well you'll maybe think I'm crazy, but I think there's 2 kind of trolls in Uni chat :

- The first one are the friendly fuzzy (crazy?) ones that just go on goofing around, talking about inoffensive/silly things, jumping from a subject to another. Those, the GMs will generally leave alone as long as questions get answered.

-The second one are the stinky rude hostile ones that don't realize that Ryzom isn't their usual game. They generally get ignored / muted and weed themselves out quite quickly.

The Ryzom community has always been particularly helpful and welcoming, but that applies only to young homins that show the same potential maturity as the rest of the community. On the other end, quite ironically, it has also always been pretty good at making "Type B" trolls feel quite unwelcomed. Some will call it elitism, I call it natural selection. Most "Type Bs" generally don't remain a long time and vanish as quick as they came.

Let's hope that the current flow of new players will still weed itself out from "Type Bs".

Personally I don't define what you said as Elitism myself because by and large those of us that have been around the game for awhile don't think we are better than anyone, be they new to the game or not! I think of it more along the lines of real life in that I and most people don't tend to hang around people I/ they can't get along with! We tend to ignore them or out right tell them off!  I mean even in PVP in game there may be some smack talking but it is generaly in fun not to be mean or rude!
 

Now playing:
Battle of the Immortals and Guild Wars

Played:
The Saga of Ryzom, Starwars Galaxies, Guild Wars, Metin 2, Cabal

Looking Forward to:
Earthrise, W.E.L.L. Online

  Devildog1

Novice Member

Joined: 8/30/06
Posts: 495

Ryzom: Znathara
Ryzom: Jynxie
Ryzom: Bahira
RIP
SWG: Zanthar Brothen (Bloodfin)

9/08/08 10:45:21 AM#19
Originally posted by neoterrar

It actually creeps me out how nice everyone is.

I asked someone where I should dig for mats, and he said where are you, so I told him. A few minutes he shows up with bags full of mats and give me money too!

 

Creepy..i wont drink the cool-aid no matter how nice you are to me!


 

Dude if you think that was creepy wait till ya join a guild! And you will succom to the cool-aid sooner or later we will get ya! Muwhahahahaha!

Now playing:
Battle of the Immortals and Guild Wars

Played:
The Saga of Ryzom, Starwars Galaxies, Guild Wars, Metin 2, Cabal

Looking Forward to:
Earthrise, W.E.L.L. Online

  olepi

Advanced Member

Joined: 1/15/07
Posts: 615

9/08/08 9:12:31 PM#20

In most MMO's, the world is a static thing; mobs spawn and stand around, no interaction or independent movement. Everyone has to kill 20 spiders, and 20 orcs, etc, as the first missions. The world is seen as a backdrop for the real action. All the players are looking at their progression against some kind of plot story.

In Ryzom, the world IS the action All the players are in it together, and helping out your fellow homin is the natural thing to do. There is no real plot story (ie, sandbox), and Atys itself is seen as an opponent. When the world kills you (like it does everybody), you can call out for a rez and ppl will come running. The progression is against the world, not a plot story.

Along with that, there is the setting of a game with cult status. Few ppl really know what is going on, and the ones that do know are helping everyone they can. Quite a nice MMO social dynamic.

The negative is the snobby elite player, who has been playing for years. A newbie asks "why can't I jump?", and the elite player (after years of answering the same question) acts, well, snobby. The vast majority of players, however, fall into the group of helping our fellow Homin. And that is the real spirit of Ryzom.

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