General Discussion

it's been stated many many many times thats anything world ending simply couldn't happen whatever you've read on the intarwebs is most likely not true ( don't ever take what you read at face value). Alot of scaremongering has occured recently by uninformed individuals blogging about something they don't have a clue about.

It is somewhat amazing that people believe this about the LHC.

No, it can not destroy the earth, it can not even destroy the surroundings were it is built.

Yes, a lot of power is built in to the particles that collide, but not THAT much.

There is a very well established law of physics called "the principle of conservation of energy".

Wich essentially means you can not get energy out of nothing.

This means that whatever explosion that can happen can not contain more energy then what was used to accelerate the particles.

Even the unlikely "black hole" scenario, wich is indeed possible is harmless.

Because the size of the so called singularity would be so small that it would evaporate within nanoseconds, this according to the Hawking law.

Just to be even more clear, particles hit the earth with a LOT more energy in them then what the LHC can even dream of achieving.

The so called "oh my god" particle, for wich they have built one of he largest detectors in the world in Malarque in Argentina contains about 100 MILLION times the energy that the LHC can stuff inte a particle.

That energy is the equivalent of a tennis serve going 150 km/h, contained in ONE proton.

Now this is a rare particle, but thousands upon thousands hit the earth each year.

I have been planning to visit the LHC for the startup, and if work permits I am going to, now if they can only hold the schedule.. ;)

I am fairly well read on this stuff, I dedicate a good deal of my spare time to the subjects they are researching at the LHC.

Now I am no scientist, but I am going to "risk" my life going there if I am able, the scientists working there, who are indeed scientists and well aware of what can and can not go wrong is going to be there.

Hope this eased some peoples mind.. ;)

well Im just going to have to create a conspiracy group against the LHC now wont I?

(being sarcastic in case someone thinks im serious ;)

Well before they detonated the first atomic bomb they didn't know whether it was going to do what it ended up doing or starting a chain reaction in the atmosphere and destroy the whole planet. The LHC is less dangerous then the first usage of the atomic bomb.

Originally posted by Umbrood

It is somewhat amazing that people believe this about the LHC.

No, it can not destroy the earth, it can not even destroy the surroundings were it is built.

Yes, a lot of power is built in to the particles that collide, but not THAT much.

There is a very well established law of physics called "the principle of conservation of energy".

Wich essentially means you can not get energy out of nothing.

This means that whatever explosion that can happen can not contain more energy then what was used to accelerate the particles.

Even the unlikely "black hole" scenario, wich is indeed possible is harmless.

Because the size of the so called singularity would be so small that it would evaporate within nanoseconds, this according to the Hawking law.

Just to be even more clear, particles hit the earth with a LOT more energy in them then what the LHC can even dream of achieving.

The so called "oh my god" particle, for wich they have built one of he largest detectors in the world in Malarque in Argentina contains about 100 MILLION times the energy that the LHC can stuff inte a particle.

That energy is the equivalent of a tennis serve going 150 km/h, contained in ONE proton.

Now this is a rare particle, but thousands upon thousands hit the earth each year.

I have been planning to visit the LHC for the startup, and if work permits I am going to, now if they can only hold the schedule.. ;)

I am fairly well read on this stuff, I dedicate a good deal of my spare time to the subjects they are researching at the LHC.

Now I am no scientist, but I am going to "risk" my life going there if I am able, the scientists working there, who are indeed scientists and well aware of what can and can not go wrong is going to be there.

Hope this eased some peoples mind.. ;)

 

You research this well.  But you dont understand too much physics

At the speed of light, a particle with non zero rest mass, will gain massive KE (Kinetic energy) and make its mass infinite.

With such mass, the gravitation is so large it could create a black hole that would wipe out the known universe.

But, the LHC doesn't accelerate particles fast enough for this to occur, it only goes 99.89% something the speed of light.  Although it is still theoretically possible it could create a semi black whole that doesn't evaporate. This is if they inject atoms and not photons into the accelerator.

And yes you can get energy out of "nothing"  First you have to define nothing.  Empty space isnt actually empty, in a vacuum empty space is booming with vibrating quarks. And theres no such thing as a perfect vacuum. We could get massive amounts of energy even in the air we breathe.  E=mc2, we can get huge amounts of energy out of small amounts of mass.  But our technology isnt there yet.

"so I says Supercollider?  I don't even know her!"

Anyways, I can hope that perhaps with the LHC we will make advances toward harvesting energy from the air we breathe or from some other source derived from the experiments performed.

Best case scenario it opens an inter-dimensional rift/wormhole that fills this planet with millions of hot alien chicks that want nothing more than to experience as much sex with human men(and women) as they possibly can. Worse case scenario it opens an inter-dimensional rift/wormhole that fills this planet with millions of hot demon chicks that want nothing more than to experience as much sex with human men(and women) as they possibly can

Do the scenarios in-between really matter?

Originally posted by Laserwolf

Best case scenario it opens an inter-dimensional rift/wormhole that fills this planet with millions of hot alien chicks that want nothing more than to experience as much sex with human men(and women) as they possibly can. Worse case scenario it opens an inter-dimensional rift/wormhole that fills this planet with millions of hot demon chicks that want nothing more than to experience as much sex with human men(and women) as they possibly can

Do the scenarios in-between really matter?

Or the most likely scenario is that they turn it on and it does nothing. Then they realize they spent boatloads of time and money building one big colossal failure.

So then they start over again......

Pfft, clearly they should have built this device on one of Mars' moons. It's far enough away to avoid lawsuits preventing its operation, but close enough to supply and develop in the near future with space travel technology. I'm sure some kind of aerospace corporation would jump at the chance to develop it. From there, just station the facility with plenty of scientists, and marines for security. You wouldn't even need any officers, just have some sergeant manage the security. Then all we need is to activate the thing, create a tear in space-time, and make sure to send plenty of volunteers through to see what's on the other side.