HUH?! Going on 8 or 9yrs and still nothing.

5 years

We don't know. There may not even be a beta as such. Just a free trial period.

Only goal published is release 2008.

Originally posted by Xris375

We don't know. There may not even be a beta as such. Just a free trial period.

Only goal published is release 2008.

2008 release...4 months left. I don't see any advertising, any previews, any reviews, not even a promo video (yet). Little chance of a 2008 release, not if they are going to actually do some proper promotion and advertising. If they miss this deadline, it surely HAS to be the end? Can anyone still believe in this if they miss yet another deadline with nothing to show for it?

Originally posted by Xris375

Only goal published is release 2008.

hahahahahhahahahahahhaha, you werent kidding, i needed some humor in the morning, LOL.

As long as they keep promising more deadlines people will follow... I mean this game is an MMO dream, too bad it's probably not real. I stoped following this waay back, but i keep hoping it's not vaporware...we'll see.

i cant get past how people bash this game for not following normal mmo hype-production-prerelease tactics.

are people that oblivious to the world of business to know companies do things differently?  it is a small indy developer.

and why is the other way the better way?  aoc hyped and hyped and gave us videos and promises etc etc...and did that turn out well?  no you were lied to and got a terrible game?  and vanguard etc plenty of games have done this and failed...why do you think this is the best way to release a game?

i made this point in another thread....everybody who say 9-10 years is first of all just wrong.  wether you judge the 2003 transition as a new start or not...the fact remains that they delayed the game because it wasnt ready. 

WE SHOULD BE BEGGING COMPANIES TO DO THIS.  you hypocrits bash this game for taking forever, and then bash released games for releasin too soon....lol its insanity.

I still think the mmo industry should just make the games with absolutly minimal  interaction with the community until about 6 months prior to release.  then hype up their product when its all done and good to go.  yes obviously they need to promote the game throughout development to find publishers etc, and info will come out...but the idea that we DESERVE all this info from the development process is absurd

Originally posted by Zinzan

Originally posted by Xris375

We don't know. There may not even be a beta as such. Just a free trial period.

Only goal published is release 2008.

2008 release...4 months left. I don't see any advertising, any previews, any reviews, not even a promo video (yet). Little chance of a 2008 release, not if they are going to actually do some proper promotion and advertising. If they miss this deadline, it surely HAS to be the end? Can anyone still believe in this if they miss yet another deadline with nothing to show for it?

Just wait til August is at its end and then start bitching.

The Darkfall devs are in a running competition with the Duke Nukem Forever devs to see who can get people to believe that there may be a game occuring for longer. 

They're actually both in a shed in the woods behind their parent's house smoking pot.

Originally posted by Soldier420

HUH?! Going on 8 or 9yrs and still nothing.

5 year of developing the Darkfall game we see today.

Its really not that long if you consider the magnitude of a MMORPG like Darkfall.

Beta is just arround the corner since game will be released 2008.

This arrived to the main Darkfall website yesterday. Its a hint that its going beta real soon.

http://www.darkfallonline.com/beta/

Originally posted by originalegg

i cant get past how people bash this game for not following normal mmo hype-production-prerelease tactics.

are people that oblivious to the world of business to know companies do things differently?  it is a small indy developer.

and why is the other way the better way?  aoc hyped and hyped and gave us videos and promises etc etc...and did that turn out well?  no you were lied to and got a terrible game?  and vanguard etc plenty of games have done this and failed...why do you think this is the best way to release a game?

i made this point in another thread....everybody who say 9-10 years is first of all just wrong.  wether you judge the 2003 transition as a new start or not...the fact remains that they delayed the game because it wasnt ready. 

WE SHOULD BE BEGGING COMPANIES TO DO THIS.  you hypocrits bash this game for taking forever, and then bash released games for releasin too soon....lol its insanity.

I still think the mmo industry should just make the games with absolutly minimal  interaction with the community until about 6 months prior to release.  then hype up their product when its all done and good to go.  yes obviously they need to promote the game throughout development to find publishers etc, and info will come out...but the idea that we DESERVE all this info from the development process is absurd

great post and 100% on the money.

Originally posted by Chillingham
Originally posted by javac 

great post and 100% on the money.

because another delusional fanboy posted it so it must be 100% on the money?

 

Originally posted by Chillingham

Originally posted by javac

great post and 100% on the money.

because another delusional fanboy posted it so it must be 100% on the money?

It was a very good post from a well informed and intelligent follower of the game Darkfall.

As he said - 100% on the money. =)

Originally posted by Chillingham

Originally posted by Chillingham
Originally posted by javac 

great post and 100% on the money.

because another delusional fanboy posted it so it must be 100% on the money?

 

And you are nothing but another delusional hater, whats your point?

What he said was 100% on the money, regardless if he is talking about Darkfall or not.  Gamers bitch if the game releases unfinish and they bitch if a game takes forever to make.  Make up your dam mind.

Another thing, why are we delusional?  We are waiting on Darkfall, if it comes out great, if it does not come out what did we lose?  None of you haters can answer that question.

What do I lose by waiting on Darkfall?

Originally posted by Chillingham

Originally posted by javac

Originally posted by originalegg

i cant get past how people bash this game for not following normal mmo hype-production-prerelease tactics.

 

 Wow you're so far gone it's hilarious.

You think people bash this game because it doesnt follow the normal mmo hype-production-prerelease tactics?

People bash this game ebcause of Tasos' big mouth. They bash it because their sick and tired of hearing about how great it will be for the the last 7 years without a single ounce fo proof other than words.

That gets annoying after swhile.

Wake up. Reality is calling you.

I have a good idea. Why doesn't Tasos just shut the fuck up , close down the site , develop their game and than relaunch everything when Beta is ready to plat the enxt day????

Reality is calling... We lose nothing by waiting on Darkfall.. Who cares how long it takes, it cost me NOTHING to wait for it.   Prove to me or anyone else Darkfall is fake and Tasos is lieing... You cannot because you have no idea what the Darkfall team is really doing... Niether do we.

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Originally posted by TdogSkal 

you have no idea what the Darkfall team is really doing... Niether do we.

Thanks for outlining the problem... for the last 7 years

Originally posted by Chillingham

Originally posted by TdogSkal

And you are nothing but another delusional hater, whats your point?

 No I'am called a realist with common sense.

You people are so far fucken gone you should be locked up in a psyche ward for still following this played out joke that has shown a few terrible looking Alpha videos over the last 7 years as proof of development. lol

 

Originally posted by TdogSkal

What do I lose by waiting on Darkfall?

Brain cells
 

Again what does it matter if I choose to wait for Darkfall? 

It cost me nothing to wait for the game... I am playing other games and working as an intern for another MMO in development.  So waiting is not a problem for me. 

If Darkfall comes out, Great I will be able to play a game that fits into my idea of a good MMO.  If it does not come out, Oh well, I lost nothing.

You are not a realist with common sense.  Common sense means that if it cost me nothing to wait for Darkfall then it really does not matter if I wait 5, 10, 15 years, it still cost me nothing.

Originally posted by Chillingham

Originally posted by TdogSkal 

you have no idea what the Darkfall team is really doing... Niether do we.

 

Thanks for outlining the problem... for the last 7 years

Yea and I dont see it as a problem, I tend to believe a developer over someone that has no idea whats really going on.  If Tasos is lieing, so what, I lost nothing waiting on Darkfall.

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by Chillingham

Originally posted by TdogSkal 

you have no idea what the Darkfall team is really doing... Niether do we.

 

Thanks for outlining the problem... for the last 7 years

 

Yea and I dont see it as a problem, I tend to believe a developer over someone that has no idea whats really going on.  If Tasos is lieing, so what, I lost nothing waiting on Darkfall.

 

You may have lost nothing waiting on Darkfall Online.  Believe it or not, there are 100s, if not thousands, of guilds out there that have put together a lot of work getting a guild ready for DFO.  One of the reasons people put in the work they do is because of the words from the developers.  When developers lie and ship crap, it makes it just that much harder for the good development companies to get future projects.  Companies launching projects that were in the state there were in like Vanguard, AoC, and to a lesser extent PoTBS need to realize the damage they are doing to the MMORPG community as a whole.

If I sold you a hybrid for $25,000 and delivered a 2000 3 cylindar that gets 50 mpg, you'd report me to the better business bureau for bait and switch.  Some of these MMORPG companies do the same type of b.s. and a lot of people accept it as the normally way of doing business.  Blizzard and now Turbine with LOTRO have proven you can deliver a quality project.  There is no excuse for the AoCs and Vanguards of the community any longer

It's not the waiting that's objectionable. We're all waiting for Darkfall one way or the other, even if it's for different reasons, but unless we're monetarily or emotionally (as some seem) invested in the project, it doesn't really affect us. It's the blind conviction/faith/belief. It's the acting like the unofficial Aventurine Defense Force anytime someone dares to post some criticism on their practices, decisions and actions and summarily dismissing them as if they were not valid, to not mention often including personal attacks or labels in the replies. Again, the burden of proof does not lie with the skeptics, but with the ones claming the improbable.