World of Warcraft

the RvR levels don't make as much of a difference. They're more used to buy renown skills...

Anyways, it's better than having everyone the same level! At least with this greater range, we'll have the traditional wide spread of levels.

Originally posted by eq2js

 Dude it's not a good idea the combat is terrible don't make the same mistake I did and preorder.

Watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Pm0-dPZ34M

Even 1v1 in WAR is more exciting/fun than anything WoW's ever put out....

Originally posted by oinyo

Yeah the reason I am so raging on WAR is because my guild abandoned me for that damn game :/ Now I roam solo...

Just from what I have seen so far on one of the euro servers I play on, your guild will not be the only one to meet such a fate.

Regardless of how good or bad you think WOW is, people get tired of the end game grind in any game.

I thought there were only 40 lvls in War, thats what I got from an interview i watched. And you can lvl any way you want. You can do pure PvE to 40 or RvR to 40 and never have to do a quest or a little of both to lvl 40.

Originally posted by cukimunga

I thought there were only 40 lvls in War, thats what I got from an interview i watched. And you can lvl any way you want. You can do pure PvE to 40 or RvR to 40 and never have to do a quest or a little of both to lvl 40.

He's talking about Renown. Alternative advancement points only obtained through PvP or Scenarios, which can be used for items, stats and abilities.

Gonna have to ask on the War board how many ranks, sub ranks there are to renown.

People were using Warcrafts expansion adding 10 more levels as an argument for why Blizzard is bad, and just likes to add more grind, and thats why Warhammer is better. But actually Warhammer is a perpetual grind like Warcraft just allowing you to advance more through PvP then just PvE when it comes to your characters development.

Warhammer's expansions will add grinds like Warcraft's grinds. Warhammer is newer and different style of game play. But its still a level based system like many of the other MMOs no matter how much people try to make it sound like a bad thing and that blizzard is the only company that practices this.

Warhammer will be new and fresh, there is no reason for people to constantly attack WoW in defense of Warhammer, since many of the same elements exist in Warhammer.

Originally posted by Kabbax

Originally posted by cukimunga

I thought there were only 40 lvls in War, thats what I got from an interview i watched. And you can lvl any way you want. You can do pure PvE to 40 or RvR to 40 and never have to do a quest or a little of both to lvl 40.

 

He's talking about Renown. Alternative advancement points only obtained through PvP or Scenarios, which can be used for items, stats and abilities.

Gonna have to ask on the War board how many ranks, sub ranks there are to renown.

People were using Warcrafts expansion adding 10 more levels as an argument for why Blizzard is bad, and just likes to add more grind, and thats why Warhammer is better. But actually Warhammer is a perpetual grind like Warcraft just allowing you to advance more through PvP then just PvE when it comes to your characters development.

Warhammer's expansions will add grinds like Warcraft's grinds. Warhammer is newer and different style of game play. But its still a level based system like many of the other MMOs no matter how much people try to make it sound like a bad thing and that blizzard is the only company that practices this.

Warhammer will be new and fresh, there is no reason for people to constantly attack WoW in defense of Warhammer, since many of the same elements exist in Warhammer.

Ah that makes sense to me,I like the idea that PvP gave you experence. In WoW i spent 2 or 3 days in WSG to get my Purple bracers for lvl 40. I just felt like I wasn't really accomplishing anything, now at max lvl it would not have bothered me.

It wouldnt have taken so long if some of my battles that i was in didnt take an hour to complete. Sometimes those WSG battles just go on forever.

Originally posted by oinyo

Come on. What are they thinking. Thank god WoW is not falling into this trap. I dont want to spend a year getting max lvl to enjoy the game. I want to max in a week or 2 so I can enjoy guild raids with my guild.

I just found out in WAR you lvl up to 40 in pve then start going up 80 lvls in PVP

pve = 40 lvls

PVP = 80 lvls

= 120 lvl.

come on.. what were they thinking.. I would much rather have the WoW system where I get tickets for cool items rather then xp and lvls. What happens if I want to pvp and I am lvl 4 and some lvl 80 jackass finds me? :/ At least with tickets I have a fair chance still and wont get completely owned.

In any case I think this is going to hurt WAR heavily. Who the hell wants to get PVP xp and lvls? PvP should simply be for a quick meaningless battle. Keep it to the PVE raids to have purpose...

This message is full of false information. PvE = 40 lvls, what's that? You get ranks by doing just RvR/PvP, you do NOT need to do PvE. Renown Ranks (RRs) show how much you contribute in the RvR.

Is it difficult for your to PvP/RvR and do you prefer doing mindless raid and faction grinding? You belong to WoW, don't ever move anywhere!

lol

WAR's regular levels and RvR levels whcih both make your character more powerful skillwise and give you access to more powerful gear.  This gear and skills make you more powerful in both PvE and PvP.

Therefore it's correct to say that WAR has 120 levels.

You're a casaul player that wants everything with little or no effort at all. And please don't say "I'm not casual", if you won't a casual player, you wouldn't be complaining.

Those that achieve goals through hardwork should be rewarded despite if it took xx amount of time to acquire that achievement. The point of pvping is suppose to be fundamental, but you're viewing it as ifwas a grind fest. 

If you really want to be at top then you should dedicate your time rvring in Warhammer beside warning about being steamroll from a player that dedicated his time and effort to acqurie the gear, skills, and stats to achieve greatness. The many reason why I disliked Age of Conan was because someone that leveled to 80 could beat someone that has been level 80 for quite a while despute the awful the gear and stat customization within the game; the time investing into those type of games doesn't seem worth my time.

I love challenges especially 2v1 gear aside, but I hate when casual players want everything what hardcore took hard and long to achieve with little to no effort.

World of warcraft is geared base it involves little to no skills, it's all about the 1337 arena gear.