| 58 posts found | |
|---|---|
|
In the interview with Mythic in PC gamer they said their main focus is PvP. That doesn't make the PvE bad but the focus is PvP. And it is hard to make both funy and balanced. So it's not only fpr PvP players but expect that they will be a lot more than the PvE players. |
|
Originally posted by dkzero
WAR has much better pve than WoW. Nothing is as mind numbingly boring as questing in WoW, and raiding is equally as bland. It's a good game to play while getting drunk though :) LOL! I agree!
WoW was always great while intoxicated. I think it had something to do with the mishaps that occurred while grouping (as I always tended to be a support class/healer). In example, I woke up one early, early morning...keyboard key-prints in my forehead....and when I logged on that very next a.m....I was reminded horribly of an failed group. Bits and pieces of the night came running back to me...but it wasn't until a group member msgd me the next day about what I was doing...and that I had run out of the group and straight for the boss, taunting and cursing as I did....I couldn't help but continue this love for drinking while playing. |
|
Originally posted by sgel
I don't think PvE is lacking as much as it's just typical cookie-cutter. I think WoW's is better (more to do when PvE'ing) , but I liked War's PvE more than LotRO, AoC, and Vanguard (of the MMO's I've played lately). What I like is that you can do PvE, RvR, or PQ's, depending on what's boring you at the moment, and yet still advance. |
|
|
Wasn't one of DAoC's biggest weaknesses a lack of good PVE??? From all I have heard the PVE is very weak in WAR also.....It may or may not be true but this is the word alot of us have been hearing. |
|
|
I played WAR in the CE pre-order beta and the preview weekend, and while it is certainly possible to play the game strictly PvE, anyone doing so will likely be disapointed that there isn't more PvE content to the game. Like the point made in an earlier post, many other games are catering to the PvE crowd in a more content rich way than WAR. That's not to say the PvE is broken, or unfun. It is to say that anyone who only plays PvE will be missing the major fun of playing WAR which is the PvP and RvR content. That is where Mythic has focused their effort, and that is where the fun gameplay really shows it's stuff. Otherwise, feel free to play just PvE, just don't complain you don't like the game when you refuse to explore it's full potential. I hope this helps. |
|
|
I think Mythic's masterplan is that they will draw in the PvE crowd with engaging quests and storylines for the first 15 level or so before gradually converting them into bloodthirsty PvP'ers via public quests and the 'WAR is everywhere' atmosphere. At that point, theoretically, no-one will care about PvE as they will be too busy bashing each others heads in and raiding cities.
|
|
|
For me, WAR offers choice and freedom, since I'm not a hardcore PvP player but neither am I the raider type. I like doing dungeons, but I hate organizing and waiting on and all the other problems associated with 25 people. I like story but I just want enough to have an idea of why I'm fighting, and how the world is set up; this isn't a single-player RPG. That's why I like WAR the most. I think WAR will help PvE lovers at LEAST tolerate PvP. They're mixed together so well under the RvR system that it'd be hard not to. Also, the game is ideally set up for the player to do both PvE and PvP, so it's a nice non-agressive way for PvErs to experience PvP. |
|
|
Goldknyght
 Novice Member
Joined: 1/12/06
It''s one thing to have a opinion, but enforcing one is unconstitutional. |
Originally posted by medafor
why when its true. Yeah the game has PVE elements because the game wont sell if it doesnt all pvp mmos dont work but to play war without pvping is like playing mortal kombat and u cant fight. |
Originally posted by Hazmal
Don't bank on being able to level without doing PvE quests; RvR experience is laughable. You will spend a lot more time in a certain tier if you try to just RvR (scenarios and world RvR) than you would if you quested and did RvR. I'm not saying you can't do it, just that it will take a considerably longer if you go that route.
Actually, it's very possible. Heck I leveled a Preview weekend Sorceress from 1-12 on RVR alone, and did so in only a couple days. She was even RR11 by the end of it too. So it's not only possible, it's pretty easy too. Mne eto nado kak zuby v zadnitse. |
|
|
Hazmal
 Novice Member
Joined: 1/30/08
If you can read this post, it means admins didn''t rickroll me again. |
Originally posted by TsukieU
Actually, it's very possible. Heck I leveled a Preview weekend Sorceress from 1-12 on RVR alone, and did so in only a couple days. She was even RR11 by the end of it too. So it's not only possible, it's pretty easy too.
1-12 in a weekend? Takes about 2-3 hours to get there if you quest, not hard just move quest to quest. I never said it wasn't possible; I said, and you proved for me, that it will take a while longer. ------------------ well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you? |
Originally posted by Hazmal
1-12 in a weekend? Takes about 2-3 hours to get there if you quest, not hard just move quest to quest. I never said it wasn't possible; I said, and you proved for me, that it will take a while longer.
I'm sorry but anyone who is just picking up the game is not going to get to level 12 in 2-3 hours. Hell even walking from the start zone to the last PQ takes about half an hour. Besides, who would want to clear an entire tier in a couple hours? Sounds like a great way to burn yourself out. Mne eto nado kak zuby v zadnitse. |
|
Lets do it again:War is ONLY FOR PVP players and not for PVE lovers!hehe... |
|
|
Spaceweed10
Apprentice Member
Joined: 4/01/08
"Any attempt to glean joy from this torrid husk of an entertainment product is met with disdain." |
Originally posted by medafor
This game is designed around RVR, and will be played with with that in mind from start to finish. The 'endgame' begins when you log in. Any carebears coming for the PvE, I suggest you find something else.. |
|
Hazmal
Novice Member
Joined: 1/30/08
If you can read this post, it means admins didn''t rickroll me again. |
Originally posted by TsukieU
1-12 in a weekend? Takes about 2-3 hours to get there if you quest, not hard just move quest to quest. I never said it wasn't possible; I said, and you proved for me, that it will take a while longer.
I'm sorry but anyone who is just picking up the game is not going to get to level 12 in 2-3 hours. Hell even walking from the start zone to the last PQ takes about half an hour. Besides, who would want to clear an entire tier in a couple hours? Sounds like a great way to burn yourself out.
Just because you can't doesn't mean other people can't. ------------------ well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you? |
Originally posted by Hazmal That's because the optimal route is to do both PvE and PvP. |
|
|
Thanks for the video, I think I may try it out after all. Any idea if the game will be downloadable or will you have to buy a box? |
|
Originally posted by tuppe99
Here you go: www.direct2drive.com/6/6327/product/Buy-Warhammer-Online:-Age-of-Reckoning-(Pre-Order)-Download |
|
|
You can buy it off direct2drive.com or in store.
WAR has a lot lined up for Pve including raids, dungeons, Tome of Knowledge, etc.
Will be stuff for exploring, adventuring, grouping, soloing. Mythic is getting it right by focusing a lot on PvP because that allows for endless content mostly propagated by the player base; however, they are still putting a great deal of effort into PvE content so everyone can have a taste of the parts of gaming they like -- PVE content just takes a lot more development power and more time. From my testing I love the PvP and there's plenty of PVE to keep PVE-lovers greatly occupied with lore and content.
Cheers |
|
|
Hazmal
Novice Member
Joined: 1/30/08
If you can read this post, it means admins didn''t rickroll me again. |
Originally posted by Bruticus_XI That's because the optimal route is to do both PvE and PvP.
That is the point I was attempting to make. You should try and read the thread before commenting, doesn't take long. ------------------ well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you? |
|
I haven't even considered buying this game because it's main focus is PvP, they can dangle all the phat lewt they can at me and I still woulden't play. A game thats being balanced for PvP makes for a very boring PvE game, class and combat wise. |
|
Originally posted by Hazmal
I'm sorry but anyone who is just picking up the game is not going to get to level 12 in 2-3 hours. Hell even walking from the start zone to the last PQ takes about half an hour. Besides, who would want to clear an entire tier in a couple hours? Sounds like a great way to burn yourself out.
Just because you can't doesn't mean other people can't.
I know you are but what am I? Mne eto nado kak zuby v zadnitse. |
|
Originally posted by paintchips your loss. the pve in this game is much more engaging than WoW's; you'll start to see that within the noobie area once you check out the PQ's and some of the more lore oriented quests. the pve is highly developed for a game that puts a lot of focus on pvp. All classes are highly oriented towards PvE and PvP content; mythic was able to strike a very strong balance between the two gameplay forms. if you think otherwise you clearly haven't done much research into the game. People who like pve and not pvp are mistaken in thinking WAR isnt offering enough pve content. the reason so much of the info out there is on pvp is because, first, pvp is in fact a big focus, and second, most people are more interested in covering the pvp issues than pve. however, don't confuse the WAR coverage of PvP and think that it means there's not a lot of PvE content. Do your research, try out the beta, and you'll see there is WAY more interesting pve content from your first steps into the game than there is in WoW's early levels or even Vanguard (at least in my view of playing VG to level 30ish). Of course you'll also see a lot more added to the end game content as the game develops over the following months post-release (as you do in all MMORPG's). |
|
|
Hazmal
Novice Member
Joined: 1/30/08
If you can read this post, it means admins didn''t rickroll me again. |
Originally posted by TsukieU
Yes, I am crazy because you didn't know what you were talking about. How eloquent. Maybe instead of working on ripping off pretentious and paranoid quips from hipster media, you could...forget it. I get enough warnings as it is. Back to work, back to work. ------------------ well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you? |
Originally posted by Hazmal
Yes, I am crazy because you didn't know what you were talking about. How eloquent. Maybe instead of working on ripping off pretentious and paranoid quips from hipster media, you could...forget it. I get enough warnings as it is. Back to work, back to work.
Actually I was just mimicing what you were saying in a more childish manner. I thought it was a pretty clever juxtaposition myself. Mne eto nado kak zuby v zadnitse. |
|
Originally posted by rmk70 your loss. the pve in this game is much more engaging than WoW's; you'll start to see that within the noobie area once you check out the PQ's and some of the more lore oriented quests. the pve is highly developed for a game that puts a lot of focus on pvp. All classes are highly oriented towards PvE and PvP content; mythic was able to strike a very strong balance between the two gameplay forms. if you think otherwise you clearly haven't done much research into the game. People who like pve and not pvp are mistaken in thinking WAR isnt offering enough pve content. the reason so much of the info out there is on pvp is because, first, pvp is in fact a big focus, and second, most people are more interested in covering the pvp issues than pve. however, don't confuse the WAR coverage of PvP and think that it means there's not a lot of PvE content. Do your research, try out the beta, and you'll see there is WAY more interesting pve content from your first steps into the game than there is in WoW's early levels or even Vanguard (at least in my view of playing VG to level 30ish). Of course you'll also see a lot more added to the end game content as the game develops over the following months post-release (as you do in all MMORPG's).
It's not just content it's the classes, if you want to see how bad pve can get due to pvp balance look no further than AoC. PvE combat in that game felt right, fluid and most of all fun at the launch 3 month later and it's down right horrible, skills that worked well with pve ended up being over powered in pvp and in the end pve is suffering as a result or rebalancing. I guarantee you that when this game launches the nerfs will start and they will hit hard, afterall this game is aimed mostly at the PvPers it's inevitable that PvE class balance will suffer in favour of PvP balance. |
|
