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careful, Nasica. Mr Poopypants might put you on block if he feels you are winning the arguement!

exploror, no offense man. But i pegged you for an intelligent guy. You supporting the conspiracy theory that the US Government was behind the destruction of these towers to get us more oil just made me change my mind on that.

Conspiracy theorists makes no damn sense at all.

1. American Government is so stupid they had to make up a hollywood feature of astronauts going to the moon (Moon conspiracy)

2.  American Government is so smart they got away with killing over 4000 people and no one has proof to get this people in Jail (including both republican and democratic parties)

See what I mean?

Originally posted by bluberryhaze

government conspiracies are for insecure people.

people feel more secure if they think an all powerful government is capable of such events.

alot of government conspiracies are the breast milk for insecure children. it makes them feel protected. in mamas bosom.

 

that's exactly right.

Originally posted by bluberryhaze

government conspiracies are for insecure people.

people feel more secure if they think an all powerful government is capable of such events.

alot of government conspiracies are the breast milk for insecure children. it makes them feel protected. in mamas bosom.

Not that I believe in any conspiracy theories about 9/11 or anything else, but what you just said there makes zero sense. How does believing that your government is a corrupt, all powerful entity that can do whatever it wants to it's citizens, cover it up and get away with it make you feel protected and comforted? It would/should have the opposite effect on a citizen. I guess I'm not seeing your point if you're trying to make one in some clever fashion...

Collateral Damage: US Covert Operations and the Terrerist Attacks on 911

Originally posted by poopypants

 

Collateral Damage: US Covert Operations and the Terrerist Attacks on 911

To say the US Government planned 9/11 and it wasn't from any terroristic activity is "stupid" at its absolute extreme. Just. Plain. Stupid.

Yeah..thats from the same website that hosts the following "arguments."

http://benjaminfulford.com/indexEnglish.html

You just proved my point. Leave the conspiracy things on X-files....when you try to bring em out in real life it just looks silly.

Kinda like Star Wars. Cool movie.....but if you try to bring it out in the real world (i.e., dress up like a Jedi....)you're going to get laughed at.

Originally posted by xplororor

Originally posted by Enigma

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/08/22/feyerick.wtc.cnn

And it came from CNN ...not the right winged agenda center, Fox.

 

 

Erm... re-watch it. It did not come from CNN. It came from the US goverment. The same entity suspected by "conspircy theorists" as the cause of the entire mess.

It was an investigative comitee "authorized" by the goverment. As opposed to an investigative comitee "not authorized" by the goverment (like the comitee that broke open Watergate lol.)

 

- The main sticking point the goverment, and no "debunker" will ever debunk, is the fact there were many other skyscrapers, (like that dark black hotel tower - name of which I forget. It was super-tall) and buildings even closer to the WTC towers. Not a single one of them caught fire.

- No "red hot embers" the size of cars fell out the the WTC. No embers big enough to instantly go through the outside if WTC 7 and burn it.

- WTC 7  was built to be an emergency BUNKER. Ever hear of a pill-box? Reserch "pill-box".

- Half the firemen on the scene SAY THEY HEARD explosions from all the WTC buildings seconds before they went down. The trained eyes of the firemen made them say the buildings went down like a controlled demolition. Who knows more about fire and demolition? Seasoned firemen? Or owned members of a goverment comiteee "authorized" by the goverment?

- Even the on the scene news reporters, no strangers to seeing fires, and other emergencies, said outloud they heard many explosions right before the buildings went down, and that the buildings went down as if it were a controlled demolition.

- There is absolutly no reason for WTC 7 to be exploding.

- Look at the computer simulation at the above link by the creator of this thread. It shows a RANDOM collapse from fire! Random floors, random areas, of the building are falling down. The acutally collapse was controlled. WTC 7 fell in on itself - which ONLY happens during a controlled deomolition. Never in world history has a building made out of steel ever fell down from burning fire. Never.

There's a famous video of a European skyscraper 100% engulfed in flames for hours, and it never fell down from the fire.

whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/spain_fire_2005.html

 

- And get this... this report linked to by the creator of this tread, bluntly say no diesel fuel was responsible for the fire in WTC 7, or for it going down. In addition, in NYC newspapers this week, they all finally admitted to common sense - if diesel fuel were a factor, there would be extreem pitch black clouds of smoke/fog emitting from WTC 7.

 

Sooo... this new report actually helps all those dang WTC conspiracist theorists.

 

 

Did I mention none of the surrounding skyscrapers directly next to the WTC buildings caught fire, nor collapsed?

This is the same goverment that on purpose executed American soldiers. Finally admiting more than 60 years later what happened. Perhaps in 60 years the real truth behind the WTC will be officially admitted?

 

www.infoplease.com/spot/bhmtuskegee1.html

 

 

Me personally, I could care less about the entire mess. Everyone has their own personal opinions - reguardless of common sense, the facts, and truth. Maybe all of us will live another 60 years heheh....

 

QFT

Let's not forget about the BBC reporter who reported the WTC building 7 had collapsed...20 minutes before it actually happened!! See that Evil Empire blooper here.

Originally posted by poopypants

 

Let's not forget about the BBC reporter who reported the WTC building 7 had collapsed...20 minutes before it actually happened!! See that Evil Empire blooper here.

yeah, CNN, Foxnews, and the BBC would all collaborate with the US Government so that the US government could blow up another building..and they all made the mistake of announcing it 20 minutes before it blew up or I guess the US government was on a lunch break and forgot to blow it up on time? BBC is a lot like CNN....anything they could find to discredit the current Presidency they would use it....and this would have been the Holy Grail of evidence to have gotten Bush impeached for gross misconduct.

Come on, man. Use some common sense, it may get you somewhere.

Originally posted by Enigma

Originally posted by poopypants

 

Collateral Damage: US Covert Operations and the Terrerist Attacks on 911

 

To say the US Government planned 9/11 and it wasn't from any terroristic activity is "stupid" at its absolute extreme. Just. Plain. Stupid.

Yeah..thats from the same website that hosts the following "arguments."

http://benjaminfulford.com/indexEnglish.html

You just proved my point. Leave the conspiracy things on X-files....when you try to bring em out in real life it just looks silly.

Kinda like Star Wars. Cool movie.....but if you try to bring it out in the real world (i.e., dress up like a Jedi....)you're going to get laughed at.

I love when the first thread I read after being away for a while I get remind someone of their use of ad hominem fallacy and an appeal to emotion fallacy.