WAR (Warhammer Online)

 Gear doesn’t matter as much when compared to a character of lesser gear in terms of quality. A level 40 player with no gear or level 20 gear will have a very hard time against a player with level 40 normal gear. However a level 40 player with normal (Green Gear) will only have a slight disadvantage against a player in Level 40 (Purple Gear). So things are a bit gear dependent but not in the way allot of people are trying to spin it.

In the case that happened this weekend had more to do with Players getting a full level 10 set going against players with gear ranging from 4 – 6 level. In most of those cases as well the players with the lower level gear were wearing whites with little to no stat bonuses. Apparently this has been noted and they plan on raising the requirement level on the gear to 12 which will prevent players with the gear from RvRing in Tier I. This will not prevent players from going to Tier II PQs and getting gear but the act of completing the PQs will push the player close enough to level 12 that they will not be granted to much of an advantage.

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Originally posted by Whitelight23
 In the case that happened this weekend had more to do with Players getting a full level 10 set

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You're wrong White, people in level 6 reknown gear were the twinks who were mowing through us.

The people who managed to get lvl 10 gear were extermely rare, I never saw one.

When I got my lvl 6 reknown gear, my dps tripled. Just my staff alone had more int than my entire pve set i got from quest rewards.

Thinks it's gonna be a no-brainer that those packing RR80 gear in a year to 18 months time will destroy those in RR40 gear.

People that play this game from launch will eat newcomers for breakfast. Bang goes all the skill based stuff!

80000 renown points to RR 40

5000000 renown points to RR80 from what I hear.

They will also likely up the renown cap in future expacs.

Originally posted by Rabenwolf

This should be a fun topic to talk about.

Some people are touchy when it comes to gear dependency making such a big difference in pvp. Some say, "it wont be like WoW where you wont stand a chance against someone with better gear".

Well i hate to say it.. actually no i dont... that WAR is going to be a gear based game. The better gear, the easier it is to kill another player without it. So far its based on Renown... perhaps even the dungeons they are putting in place in the game. Grinding renown is at least fun, it just means...pvp..a lot.

While i do not disagree with this system, i know it might hurt some who hate the whole concept of gear dependency.

One of the topics Mark brought up when addressing the players after preview weekend was this

" (9) Renown rank gear
- Unfortunately, a new bug (well an old bug we fixed and then managed to break again) which allowed Rank 10 RR 6 players can go to Tier 2 to get better gear and then come back to Tier 1 and own scenarios. We are currently working on a fix. "

The same level players could run across the map, nap that gear, run back and easily have the upper hand in battles. Meaning gear makes that much a difference.

The real question is, end game, will there always be new gear to strive for or is it going to iron out and everyone who grinded up their gear to that point will be equal? The problem might be for those who spent too much time PvE and not PvPing enough to have the same renown as those with the better gear.

So the PvPers will have an advantage over the PvEers because they got equipment geared towards PvP.  Hmmm...guess that means the PvEers will just have to stop whining and demanding everything in the game without working for it and go PvP like everyone else to get the right gear ;p
 

Gear is skill depended too. Because you have to play alot to be skillful. And with playing alot it's not a problem to get a good gear.

I didn't find that gear was that huge of a difference maker over this last weekend.  i didn't even know that this bug was going on or that others were supposedly bettered geared then i was.  I had top 5 dmg, kills and kill shots from lvl 4 on up and never upgraded gear besides what i could buy in the first area for rank 4i think it was.  It was about playing smart and staying alive.

If you work harder ?  You mean if your part of a huge guild or have thousands of hours longer to play and farm gear.

The whole point of making gear useful and not making a character 100% dependant on gear is what Mythic has given us, you want to be almighty then continus playing Wow.

War is not and will not be a bunny hopping two button mash, I win because I have epic gear experience.

All the bunnies please refrain from entering the realm of War you are now the hunted.

Originally posted by Stridar

I didn't find that gear was that huge of a difference maker over this last weekend.  i didn't even know that this bug was going on or that others were supposedly bettered geared then i was.  I had top 5 dmg, kills and kill shots from lvl 4 on up and never upgraded gear besides what i could buy in the first area for rank 4i think it was.  It was about playing smart and staying alive.

Really? Soon as me and my group got our rank 6 level 10 gear we stopped dying. Gear was night and day difference for us. Where before hand we were 50/50 on scenarios we were now 100 / 0 on them, and pretty much rarely died unless we had a MAJOR screw up or were suiciding for quest turn ins.

Granted the majority of the people we were fighting were not geared and were not coordinated... but gear definitely made a large impact.

I think the difference between Tier 2 and Tier 1 gear is exagerated by the fact that superior gear comes slow during the first 10 Ranks. By Rank 8 I usually had a couple pieces of gear that were vastly superior to the starting gear, while the rest of my pieces were still starter level,or not much better than starter level. (I even would have some slots with no gear).

Once you hit Tier 2, most of your gear should be upgraded significantly over the starter gear and the upgrades with in the Tier should not be as drastic a boost.

I don't know if this will remain the same in retail, but there were no weapon/armor vendors at all, at least through Rank 8. That means that unless you find gear from drops or rewards (it doesn't drop any where near as often as in other games), you are stuck with starter gear for a while.