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8/26/08 7:55:26 AM#21
I have been playing EVE for several years and hardly ever PVP. I agree about the missions becoming boring if you are solo-PVE but in a good CORP it can be alot of fun. As for toning down the PVP element, I am against doing that as I also believe that PVP is the foundation of the game. And even though I primarily play PVE, I don't go out of my way to avoid PVP and when I have lost ships to gate camps it is irritating but part of the game. In fact, I look forward to my PVE CORP being involved in wars so I can be more involved in PVP but not solo. I am rambling... anyways what I am saying is I enjoy the PVE and see it as a stepping stone or maybe a money-making base from which to PVP.
Does that make sense? 
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8/26/08 7:57:52 AM#22
Originally posted by brenth
Brenth. You are a walking talking singing and dancing contradiction. Your signature says "make a world, not a game, we dont want another game." and yet you want to play a game where other players cant hurt you which is the complete opposite of a real world. How stupid! EVE is a game where players can do what they like to each other when they are in low security space. Its called realism and its a very good thing. Any issues brought up by the council that make the PvP aspect of EVE more entertaining and involving is also a very good thing. Imagine how crap EVE would be if players couldnt attack each other and everyone was left in peace to fall asleep in their chairs as their ships sit there mining asteroids. Whats the point in that?!! Are you utterly mental?!! Why would you want to play a game where nothing can hurt you?!! What are all those other players for then? Duh!!! Geez.....the stupidity of some people is astounding. EVE is one of the only decent games around at the moment which can actually be shaped by players actions. You dont want any kind of challenge in your games? You dont want to think? You want to vegetate and dribble in your comfy armchair? You want a single player game where you can fight the computer cooperatively with others? Then EVE is not for you. |
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8/26/08 8:01:19 AM#23
Originally posted by micona
Because people each have their own vision of fun , just because you like pvp in eve does not mean everyone does. some do like economies and mining and manufacturing or just exploring and doing missions . Each their opinion and we have to respect that .
Yeah so the players that dont want to interact with anyone else can just stay in high security space. Problem solved |
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8/26/08 8:35:24 AM#24
All I know is that EVE will finally have the one key MMO feature it lacked. 12 year old kids jumping around on top of stuff in the station atrium. |
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8/26/08 9:21:58 AM#25
Originally posted by Clattuc
I know that thought crossed my mind too The silly thing is that EVE doesnt need humanoid avatars in it. Its just catering to all the people that cant get over the fact that EVE isnt like all of the other mmos they are used to. I wanna see my little man and dress him up in clothes and give him a pew pew laser gun! I dont wanna be a ship mwwaaaaahhhhh!!!! All the other mmos let you do that so get stuffed!!!! Why does EVE have to try and be like all the other crappy mmos? Who cares if other players want it? Those same "other players" probably want to have levels, raid dungeons, end of level bosses, epic gear and cutesy stories in it too.......are the devs gonna add all of that shit into the game as well? Having players being able to run their little action man figures around on a generic space station isnt going to add anything to the game at all.......apart from a bit of visual fluff so those players can pretend to roleplay. Oh god I bet they add dance emotes too. Oh what fun. Then everyone can just dance round the stations thinking they are being really funny! "Oh gee look at me dancing! Laugh at me everyone! I'm such a clown! Woohoo yeah I know how to have fun!" Thankfully I wont see any of it though as I will be busy playing the game and flying around in my spaceship which is what EVE is about. |
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spankybus
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Joined: 11/20/05
"Don''t touch that squirrel''s nuts!" - Willy Wonka |
8/26/08 9:32:48 AM#26
Originally posted by SpyridonZ
What puzzles me is why anyone loves PvP in this game, unless you love beating each other over teh head, over and over and over and over and over and over............
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8/26/08 9:49:23 AM#27
Originally posted by spankybus
What puzzles me is why anyone loves PvP in this game, unless you love beating each other over teh head, over and over and over and over and over and over............
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Why is it that, as a culture, we are more comfortable seeing two men holding guns than holding hands? ~Ernest Gaines |
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8/26/08 10:00:48 AM#28
Originally posted by spankybus
What puzzles me is why anyone loves PvP in this game, unless you love beating each other over teh head, over and over and over and over and over and over............
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What puzzles me is why anyone loves PvE in this game, unless you love beating mobs over the head, over and over and over and over and over and over............
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8/26/08 12:18:58 PM#29
Originally posted by neonwire
I know that thought crossed my mind too The silly thing is that EVE doesnt need humanoid avatars in it. Its just catering to all the people that cant get over the fact that EVE isnt like all of the other mmos they are used to. I wanna see my little man and dress him up in clothes and give him a pew pew laser gun! I dont wanna be a ship mwwaaaaahhhhh!!!! All the other mmos let you do that so get stuffed!!!! Why does EVE have to try and be like all the other crappy mmos? Who cares if other players want it? Those same "other players" probably want to have levels, raid dungeons, end of level bosses, epic gear and cutesy stories in it too.......are the devs gonna add all of that shit into the game as well? Having players being able to run their little action man figures around on a generic space station isnt going to add anything to the game at all.......apart from a bit of visual fluff so those players can pretend to roleplay. Oh god I bet they add dance emotes too. Oh what fun. Then everyone can just dance round the stations thinking they are being really funny! "Oh gee look at me dancing! Laugh at me everyone! I'm such a clown! Woohoo yeah I know how to have fun!" Thankfully I wont see any of it though as I will be busy playing the game and flying around in my spaceship which is what EVE is about.
funny, you and the other guy complain about little children in MMORPGs, yet you act as them.... |
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8/26/08 12:32:47 PM#30
Originally posted by L0k1- funny, you and the other guy complain about little children in MMORPGs, yet you act as them....
I was just thinking the same thing myself.
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8/26/08 12:59:57 PM#31
Having the Station Enivorment may be fun for a weeks, but, then, it will become mundane, but, it will add something to the game. Now, mind you, adding ground combat to the game in the form of Mechs designed much in the way that ships handle will greatly enhance how gamers will play the game, especially if your building up a mining base that will enhance your overall wallet, and, take earning creds out from just mining asteroid belts to mission running. But, as for raid dungeons, well, they are already ingame, but, because nearly 90% of these are controlled by alliances that guard the higher up raid instances, no one other than those paticular alliances are allowed into them. in other words, the alliances own those raid encounters, and regular players aren't allowed into them, trust me, I know from first hand expierence, I lost 3 battleships trying to enter several higher lvl raid instances, and always got shot up by 6-7 pvp players guarding them for thier alliance. But, alas, the Devs and GMs don't give a rats ass about regular players unless you've got the title of hardcore pvp'r behind it because, in this game, the Devs and GMs will bow to you as if your a god, and, do your bidding if your nothing but a pvp'r. |
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8/26/08 1:05:18 PM#32
Walking in stations was already shown more then a year ago. When they bring it in game a think it will last 2 years still. All female avatars with a male voice, you think what are you a guy, no you did know that already that 99% of female avatars. You only cannot believe the male avatars that are actually female then. Or female avatars that are female. Of it now is pve or pvp, i do not get kick out of it. My eve play has always been mining and missions Eve is a sort of playgame where you can relax and not have prove how good you are in some things. We be reminded too that in rl already with all those advertisements where we slain dead with. AK |
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8/26/08 5:27:58 PM#33
Originally posted by DownMonkey
No you werent. You're just Loki's pet monkey bitch riding on his coat tails |
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8/27/08 5:09:08 AM#34
Originally posted by neonwire
No you werent. You're just Loki's pet monkey bitch riding on his coat tails There's a phrase for it...someone I knew mentioned it once (had to google it)...goes like this: " The guilty dog barks the loudest" /rant |
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8/27/08 5:34:41 AM#35
Originally posted by darkraptor There's a phrase for it...someone I knew mentioned it once (had to google it)...goes like this: " The guilty dog barks the loudest"
I'm not sure what it will be for this particular one but for every phrase in existence there is an opposite phrase to counter it. For example "Seek and yee shall find" vs "Good things come to he who waits". Basicly if the phrase you have chosen to use is taken literally then it means that every important person throughout history who has raised their voice and caused an uproar for a great cause (whether it is fighting against oppression, fighting for human rights, etc) is basicly guilty of being in the wrong. It doesnt make much sense does it. You put up a good show of appearing wise and for that I commend you "He who barks last wins and kicks everyone elses arse" |
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8/27/08 5:49:55 AM#36
Originally posted by neonwire There's a phrase for it...someone I knew mentioned it once (had to google it)...goes like this: " The guilty dog barks the loudest"
I'm not sure what it will be for this particular one but for every phrase in existence there is an opposite phrase to counter it. For example "Seek and yee shall find" vs "Good things come to he who waits". Basicly if the phrase you have chosen to use is taken literally then it means that every important person throughout history who has raised their voice and caused an uproar for a great cause (whether it is fighting against oppression, fighting for human rights, etc) is basicly guilty of being in the wrong. It doesnt make much sense does it. You put up a good show of appearing wise and for that I commend you "He who barks last wins and kicks everyone elses arse" hey now, I appreciate the creative reply here...I agree they don't fit all the time. I would say that "for this scenario", it fits, but this is not the universal solution to all of life's questions (42) or something. Meanwhile, I really wonder if Eve will add some sort of first person shooter equivalent down the line aka fighting within a station for the station...it would be really interesting given the potential character models....and like 2 games in one lol. /rant |
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8/27/08 6:00:50 AM#37
Originally posted by darkraptor
I'm not sure what it will be for this particular one but for every phrase in existence there is an opposite phrase to counter it. For example "Seek and yee shall find" vs "Good things come to he who waits". Basicly if the phrase you have chosen to use is taken literally then it means that every important person throughout history who has raised their voice and caused an uproar for a great cause (whether it is fighting against oppression, fighting for human rights, etc) is basicly guilty of being in the wrong. It doesnt make much sense does it. You put up a good show of appearing wise and for that I commend you "He who barks last wins and kicks everyone elses arse" hey now, I appreciate the creative reply here...I agree they don't fit all the time. I would say that "for this scenario", it fits, but this is not the universal solution to all of life's questions (42) or something. Meanwhile, I really wonder if Eve will add some sort of first person shooter equivalent down the line aka fighting within a station for the station...it would be really interesting given the potential character models....and like 2 games in one lol.
I sort of agree with the idea of adding a first person shooter element and I sort of dont. It could add something to EVE that goes beyond simple visual fluff but I rather doubt it would ever get done. Even if it did it would have to be implemented extremely well for it to work and it would also have to fit in with the general feel of the original and main part of the game. EVE was never intended to be that kind of game though........its a game about ships flying around in space. I guess its possible though.
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8/27/08 6:06:24 AM#38
.......oh and I dont think the phrase does fit the scenario actually as I was never trying to "bark the loudest". I was simply reacting to someone elses reaction in the never-ending chain of reactions that constitutes existence. |
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8/27/08 6:29:53 AM#39
Originally posted by neonwire
You do realize the phrase wasn't aimed at you, right? sheesh man, you post something smart, and then you make yourself sound all confused up in the mind, yo!
I agree it would have to be well implemented but it could be a very interesting addition. space based MMO + first person shooter elements..... I think it has a definite chance with eve, and would certainly be a first to have a flight/space based mmo having a first person shooter element within it (really 2 full games in 1), but it would fit in with the concepts of taking over stations, and having backup clones, and suchforth. Latency would be the biggest issue here given eve's global players and populations. If all of us got about 10x faster connections including eve itself, then it'd definitely be possible. After all, just "walking around a station" is useless I would suspect in my opinion, nor is it really unique as much. You'll have one person doing what I call wow syndrome, where they just jump around all day (if it allows jumping) or just semi pointless.
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8/27/08 6:43:45 AM#40
Originally posted by darkraptor
You do realize the phrase wasn't aimed at you, right? sheesh man, you post something smart, and then you make yourself sound all confused up in the mind, yo!
I agree it would have to be well implemented but it could be a very interesting addition. space based MMO + first person shooter elements..... I think it has a definite chance with eve, and would certainly be a first to have a flight/space based mmo having a first person shooter element within it (really 2 full games in 1), but it would fit in with the concepts of taking over stations, and having backup clones, and suchforth. Latency would be the biggest issue here given eve's global players and populations. If all of us got about 10x faster connections including eve itself, then it'd definitely be possible. After all, just "walking around a station" is useless I would suspect in my opinion, nor is it really unique as much. You'll have one person doing what I call wow syndrome, where they just jump around all day (if it allows jumping) or just semi pointless.
Damn it looks like my internal cpu has thrown a spaz! I think I was locked into defence mode and my targeting acquisition unit provided me with faulty data........generally something like "All targets are foes. Fire at will" ......but yeah I agree with what you said there. It could indeed work. To deal with the jumping & dancing dorks CCP could have npc security forces (or even voluntary player ones maybe like the ISO's in chat) onboard the stations that arrest people for moronic behaviour and force them to leave the station for a set period of time. It would never happen I know but I can dream cant I? |
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