I tried playing AoC, I even gave it the benefit of the doubt and leveled to end game(if you can call it that).  I swiftly realized there was nothing to this game, and no-one pvp'd. 

I pre-ordered for 5 dollars warhhamer from gamstop and was lucky enough to get into preview weekend, and boy was I glad I did.  Within the first 15 minutes I allready knew it was a better game than AoC. 

All I can say is this.  Open Beta Starts Sept 7th, and I am having difficulty trying to find things to do until then, and my wife is going crazy too.

Preview weekend for warhammer was more successful than AoC was after 6 months of being out, For anyone to compare that Warhammer will fall like AoC is laughable.  Warhammer might not surpass subscribers in wow, but it certainly won't lack subscribers.  That and people seem to forget that like 7 million of "WOW's registered users" are all asian, probably a lot of them gold selling accounts and so on.

This game wil thrive just as wow did, Comparing Wow's "polished" factor is like comparing a bottle of wine you acquired 4 years ago and let sit, versus one you purchased that day.  Drink both, obviously one is going to have a better taste, but it's had longer to perfect.  Give Warhammer those 4 years of perfection and see where it's at.  It's just silly to compare the two. 
 

I plan on playing the game and keeping my CE preorder.  I remmeber playing the OB of AoC and teh first 10 hours was more than enough for me to cancel my order there.  I like how the game is friendly to the casual player (me) as well as other players with more time.  Hope to see you all in there.

I must say that my hype for WAR was insanely high. I love PVE and I like PVP, so when I played naturally I expected more PVE. The PVE is there, but it isn't the best. I definitely didn't get the same feel as I did when I played WOW or EQ, EQ2. I found myself PVPing A LOT, but I would get burnt out.

Then about 45 minutes later I would log back on and continue to PVP. Its so very addicting and the value is different than PVE-ing for loot and farming. Overall my preview weekend was good because of this. I am glad it is not a textbook MMO and will filter out those that want to ruin a game by straight farming and loot whoring.

I'm buying and looking forward to playing retail.

1.) The game is fun.

2.) It is NOT WoW.

3.) It is NOT a "WoW killer".

4.) It is not "The One".

Fun is the key, it is a fun game with some innovative concepts.

Expectations are also key. Based on what I saw during the preview, the game is too rough around the edges to be exceptional, even though it is fun and in some areas innovative.

Not a WoW killer, but should be a solidly successful title.

It is NOT "The One". Combat is a bit clunky. AI can be pretty horrible. Pathing issues are bad.  Avatar customization offers zero improvement over WoW. Art direction is excellent, but graphics quality and performance for that level of quality are fairly poor.  Crafting is in alpha stages. Some animations are poor (seen a lot worse, but bad enough in some cases to snap you out of immersion in the game).

This is very subjective: while the world is well designed and fun to play,  on the spectrum of theme park to virtual world, it's a lot closer to theme park.

I'll cut it short there, I could go into much greater detail and cover more points of the pluses and minuses.

It's very fun. Should be a game most will play at least three months. However, it's far from perfect and I did find myself wishing the game had a few more months for polish and to tweak the way the game feels to play.

I will buy this game. It has everything I look forward to in an MMO plus more:

1. RvR

2. No mindless grinding

3. Public Quests

4. No anti-lore classes. i.e. Orc Rogue, Gnome Warrior etc.

5. No 10+ people raiding of instances for gear which becomes obselete in the next patch.

6. Have a look at the Inevitable City and you will know why :)

7. Renown ranks. Tome of knowledge. Useful and meaningful stats.

8. Balanced classes (not perfect but will get there, OP Ironbreaker and Warrior Priest lol)

Yes!  I as well will be purchasing it.  I do not think it is the game to "kill" all other MMOs but it has the "FUN" element that I always look for in a game and for that I will purchase it.

Now I have been playing the game in closed beta for about 2 weeks, so I stayed away from it during the PW as I just did not want to have to do all the beginning quests all over again and did not want to spoil anything by doing them for the "umpteenth" time, and besides I was told by other friends that all the servers were pretty cramped up with tons of players.  It looks promising and I really enjoy the "Book" of knowledge (or whatever it is called).  I find getting XP for exploring every aspect of the game to be a huge bonus to my play-game time.  So yes I will purchase the game and hope that it only gets better.

Originally posted by fingis

WAR is like WoW only with all the cool combat taken out.

There's nothing like the warrior skill charge in WAR

 

Charge!	Buff
Core Ability	Level 40
No cost	No range
Instant cast	30s cooldown
You charge into the thick of battle, increasing your run speed by 50 for 7 seconds. If you use any abilities, this effect will immediately end.

There's nothing like the warlock spell fear in WAR

 

Crippling Terror	Debuff
Path of Calamity	Level 25
Rank 4 Morale	100 ft range
Instant cast	60s cooldown
Your target and all other enemies within 30 feet of them are Silenced and Disarmed for 7 seconds, making them unable to use melee, ranged, or magic abilities. This effect is not subject to diminishing returns.

There's nothing like the rogue skill distract in WAR, or stealth.

 

Shadow Prowler	Buff
Core Ability	Level 40
No cost	No range
2s cast	60s cooldown
You prowl through the shadows, making it less likely that hostile monsters will notice you but slowly draining away your action points. This effect will end if you use any abilities or run out of action points.

You won't shield bash to interrupt a skill in WAR

 

Thunderous Blow	Ailment
Path of Monstrosity	Level 31
30 Action Points	5 ft range
Instant cast	5s cooldown
A blow to the head which disorients the target, inflicting 180 damage and increasing build times by 1 seconds for 5 seconds.   You Got Nuthin! Debuff Path of Da Green Level 25   25 Action Points 100 ft range 1s cast 30s cooldown Gork's Waaagh! reduces cast time. Deals 125 Elemental damage and silences your target, making them unable to use magic for 5 seconds. Don't Hit Me! Damaging Path of Stabbin' Level 25   40 Action Points 5 ft range Instant cast 10s cooldown You deal 100 damage and interrupt your target's building ability.

and so on

WAR is a new game, WAR is a pvp game, it should have more combat features than a game that's four years old.

There's nothing in WAR combat wise that you can't get in any free to play MMO.

 

While most of these aren't EXACT copies...most of them are better.

Pwned.

I am undecided as I have some concerns for the game.

For starters why do High Elves and Dark Elve Male charachters look so fem, so gay?

There arent enough differences between order and chaos classes.

I dont care for the battlegrounds as they are typically very small.

WARHAMMER for me just isnt close enough to DAOC.

Maybe the difference in melee dps and a casters dps becomes more apparent as higher lvls are achieved but for now bleh...

I may buy it. I would like more time playing and getting more into the BW.

Maybe Im just burnt out on games. Nothing has seemed very fun lately.

I had more fun than I thought I would.  Pleasantly surprised.

The combat is different than CoH/WoW etc, and it was a bit slower.  But that doesn't mean it's worse, just different.  A lot less spamming certain keys, and more about use your abilities effectively.

I played a High Elf Swordmaster, and it was interesting in that you had to go through different combos to fight effectively.  And although they typically started out the same -- opening move -- you progressed through your "dance" in different ways, depending on the particulars of the fight.

I like that, and I was surprised I did.  Took me a long time to kill stuff, but it was fun to play one of the classes a lot of others didn't.  There will be a ton of Witch Hunters and Bright Wizards, and to be honest -- they ARE a blast to play.  Still, I always like to play the classes most others don't.

Originally posted by core784

Originally posted by fingis

WAR is like WoW only with all the cool combat taken out.

There's nothing like the warrior skill charge in WAR

 

Charge!	Buff
Core Ability	Level 40
No cost	No range
Instant cast	30s cooldown
You charge into the thick of battle, increasing your run speed by 50 for 7 seconds. If you use any abilities, this effect will immediately end.

There's nothing like the warlock spell fear in WAR

 

Crippling Terror	Debuff
Path of Calamity	Level 25
Rank 4 Morale	100 ft range
Instant cast	60s cooldown
Your target and all other enemies within 30 feet of them are Silenced and Disarmed for 7 seconds, making them unable to use melee, ranged, or magic abilities. This effect is not subject to diminishing returns.

There's nothing like the rogue skill distract in WAR, or stealth.

 

Shadow Prowler	Buff
Core Ability	Level 40
No cost	No range
2s cast	60s cooldown
You prowl through the shadows, making it less likely that hostile monsters will notice you but slowly draining away your action points. This effect will end if you use any abilities or run out of action points.

You won't shield bash to interrupt a skill in WAR

 

Thunderous Blow	Ailment
Path of Monstrosity	Level 31
30 Action Points	5 ft range
Instant cast	5s cooldown
A blow to the head which disorients the target, inflicting 180 damage and increasing build times by 1 seconds for 5 seconds.   You Got Nuthin! Debuff Path of Da Green Level 25   25 Action Points 100 ft range 1s cast 30s cooldown Gork's Waaagh! reduces cast time. Deals 125 Elemental damage and silences your target, making them unable to use magic for 5 seconds. Don't Hit Me! Damaging Path of Stabbin' Level 25   40 Action Points 5 ft range Instant cast 10s cooldown You deal 100 damage and interrupt your target's building ability.

and so on

WAR is a new game, WAR is a pvp game, it should have more combat features than a game that's four years old.

There's nothing in WAR combat wise that you can't get in any free to play MMO.

 

While most of these aren't EXACT copies...most of them are better.

Pwned.

 Pwned. Ftw.

I won't..

Got nothing bad to say about it either, so sorry to disappoint, its just not for me.

Loved it......very impressed with how stable and how few bugs there were.

im buying!

I will be buying it.

This is very casual friendly and it provides the "quick and dirty" feel I need from an MMO nowadays since I don't have the time to dedicate anymore. 

My only complaint, and I see it is being addresses already, is the client crashes. If they fix the list of items they need to before launch, it will be a good time.

Yes, CE more to the point!

War is coming!

Yes

Love it. Been playing for 10 months. Never stopping.... well till Mythic releases the next big thing.

Wow is dead. They'll figure it out soon enough.

Definately, had a blast.

74% buying it.

You "No" folks must play WoW. Lol.

10 Man Arthas.

Hordes of Deathknights ahahahahahahahaha

Originally posted by fingis

WAR is like WoW only with all the cool combat taken out.

There's nothing like the warrior skill charge in WAR

There's nothing like the warlock spell fear in WAR

There's nothing like the rogue skill distract in WAR, or stealth.

You won't shield bash to interrupt a skill in WAR

and so on

WAR is a new game, WAR is a pvp game, it should have more combat features than a game that's four years old.

There's nothing in WAR combat wise that you can't get in any free to play MMO.

Hey Didn't you have a post where you whined about the twinks ruining WAR and how you where to stupid not to Kill the healer and go the the armor mercent and get your gear. In that same post did you not complain about how the armor was to much and how you could not aford it. You sound like troller or a realy crapy player to me.

don't insult the naysayers... the game is not for everyone... some are bound not to like it and some are bound to only look at the issues... i havent had 1 CTD for example... so i can't complain... and it's fun...

I pre-ordered the CE about 4 and a half seconds after they sent out the email saying that it was available. Of course, I've been in CB for a while, so I knew how much fun the game was already. But still....

Damn skippy I'm buying the game. I'd buy a lifetime sub if they had it. Soooooo much to do in WAR. And likewise soooooooo many classes that all play quite differently.

I've already got my preorder from Best Buy. Being a TT warhammer player and a DAOC vet this is a no brainer. They are doing alot right and if they can just fix some bugs, balance the classes, and be active with the players they will have more subs than they expected.

Originally posted by TheMaelstrom

I pre-ordered the CE about 4 and a half seconds after they sent out the email saying that it was available. Of course, I've been in CB for a while, so I knew how much fun the game was already. But still....

Damn skippy I'm buying the game. I'd buy a lifetime sub if they had it. Soooooo much to do in WAR. And likewise soooooooo many classes that all play quite differently.

I LOVE UR AVATAR!!!!!

I preordered 2 copies of ce when they announced it.

i also preordered the osg and atlas osg.

yay...

I loved the pre-view weekend.Its the best PVP sence DAOC.Smokes WOW's  lame PVP.Cant wait for launch.