WAR (Warhammer Online)

Originally posted by Fikroc

There are some people (including myself) that got pissed off enough to roll up a runie after being grouped with 3 and not recieving one heal... problem I was thinking is they get so caught up trying to do their shit DDs they forget their main purpose in the group... at that point imho you deserve to lose. Once the game is live and you can keep up with guilds and friends and not worry about the char wipe you can recruit some great healers.

Edit - Also for new healers, go to the options on the dispaly and turn on health bars above names. Also in scenarios it helps a TON to turn on the raid group window and use that instead for everyone in the BG. It's so much more effective than focusing on your group alone. The health bars over names is great for the spur of the moment skirmishes where you can visually see the fight infront of you and choose who needs healing mainly.

There are a lot of tricks, the game is still new and i'm hoping people will learn with time. WoW just ruined the group mindset for most people that had it as their first MMO.

How do you turn raid group on in scenario?????

Originally posted by Blodpls

I don't play WAR but I do normally play healers in other games.

I must say that with healing it's a 2 way street.

If someones specced for healing and is actually healing the group then you dps / tanking people need to realise that part of your job is to protect the healer from the enemy. 

Too many times people expect heals and give nothing in return, you spend an entire match healing the group and then when a 7 foot dps specced orc runs up and starts pummeling the healer what do these people do? Absolutely nothing!

Do they help by killing / cc'ing the offending enemy who dares to mess with their life giving healer, no they just run off and do their own thing and then complain about "not getting healed".

 

 

You, sir, are my new hero...

Originally posted by Philss

Originally posted by Fikroc

There are some people (including myself) that got pissed off enough to roll up a runie after being grouped with 3 and not recieving one heal... problem I was thinking is they get so caught up trying to do their shit DDs they forget their main purpose in the group... at that point imho you deserve to lose. Once the game is live and you can keep up with guilds and friends and not worry about the char wipe you can recruit some great healers.

Edit - Also for new healers, go to the options on the dispaly and turn on health bars above names. Also in scenarios it helps a TON to turn on the raid group window and use that instead for everyone in the BG. It's so much more effective than focusing on your group alone. The health bars over names is great for the spur of the moment skirmishes where you can visually see the fight infront of you and choose who needs healing mainly.

There are a lot of tricks, the game is still new and i'm hoping people will learn with time. WoW just ruined the group mindset for most people that had it as their first MMO.

 

How do you turn raid group on in scenario?????

Everytime I joined in and zoned it would have a pop up window showing all of the parties and where u could join. Up by the title there is a square checkmark box. I just checked it and it'd put a group window for that party. I would check the ones that had people and roll. The problem I was finding is u have to do that every time. They haven't set it to remember previous settings yet (besides location that you move the actual bars to). Hope that helps =)

Edit - Also there is a button on the radar circle after you close the intitial pop up. I think its on the W side.

Originally posted by Blodpls

I don't play WAR but I do normally play healers in other games.

I must say that with healing it's a 2 way street.

If someones specced for healing and is actually healing the group then you dps / tanking people need to realise that part of your job is to protect the healer from the enemy. 

Too many times people expect heals and give nothing in return, you spend an entire match healing the group and then when a 7 foot dps specced orc runs up and starts pummeling the healer what do these people do? Absolutely nothing!

Do they help by killing / cc'ing the offending enemy who dares to mess with their life giving healer, no they just run off and do their own thing and then complain about "not getting healed".

 

 

Agreed.  That is one of the major points I made in my long rant a few posts above yours.  People think healers are there to help them, but no one wants to help the healers.  I already went on a long rant about it tho, so I won't do it again!

Might be kinda shitty but if I have a melee on me and i'm kiting (helps a ton! use line of sight to your advantage, also terrain) I just focus healing myself or other healers. Jumping up and down infront of a tank too and blocking them sometims gets people's attention.

Originally posted by Sunder

Originally posted by Blodpls

I don't play WAR but I do normally play healers in other games.

I must say that with healing it's a 2 way street.

If someones specced for healing and is actually healing the group then you dps / tanking people need to realise that part of your job is to protect the healer from the enemy. 

Too many times people expect heals and give nothing in return, you spend an entire match healing the group and then when a 7 foot dps specced orc runs up and starts pummeling the healer what do these people do? Absolutely nothing!

Do they help by killing / cc'ing the offending enemy who dares to mess with their life giving healer, no they just run off and do their own thing and then complain about "not getting healed".

 

 

 

Agreed.  That is one of the major points I made in my long rant a few posts above yours.  People think healers are there to help them, but no one wants to help the healers.  I already went on a long rant about it tho, so I won't do it again!

 

Yup been there. That's why I don't play healers. To many people want to zerg, expect you to be their personal slave, totally ignore the rest of the group.
 

Originally posted by Rabenwolf

While i agree with you that healers need to take more active role in RvR, lets face it, fighting is more fun than playing heal bot...and the way RvR is going, everyone will need a heal every other second.

WAR would be more fun if healing powers didnt exist... it would make the battles more fun and productive.

Finally, the sad thing about PQs is that in order to get number 1 on everything...heres my lil secret, throw dots on everything that moves. Tab + DOT hotkey + Tab + DOT ...ect. Its very easy getting #1. I have yet to see an active healer get close to 1 without throwing out dots or curses left and right, regardless of your class.

Its beta madness.. Just wait till release and see how many healers are in the right hands...

Players that live for RVR and have done it for many years together.  Its gonna be the same as in DAoC.

The PUGS will have crap healers and people will be whining alot.

12man gank grps are gonna be so fun!

Originally posted by Herodes

 

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Originally posted by Pyrostasis

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Originally posted by Monorojo

 

So i play a glass cannon, and have for several months now. One of the constants that I have ran into in scenarios and most open-world RvR events is that most healers simply do not heal. I do not understand why this is really. Warrior Priests (being insanely OP'd right now) seem to just jump into a crowd of 5-6 destro's and tear the place apart. DoKs are far more inclined to dish out pain than throw a heal to a Sorc standing right next to them.

Do these healers not realize they easily land #1 in PQs if you team with a DPS (especially a Sorc or BW with max darkmagic) and healhealheal? Do these healers not realize they get renown and XP in scenarios for healing?

I constantly see myself getting attacked, running back in front of a healer, and instead of healing....he attacks the guy who is pummeling me or simply ignored me. This often leads to death. I understand that healers are meant to do some damage as well, but PLEASE GOD for your own benefit and ours do your freakin job. Heal damn it, heal!

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I run with a guild group, and occasionally attempt to heal folks outside the group... but most people jump around like fish out of water making it rather tough to attempt to save them.
Not only that... but about the 20th or 30th person who's ass I did manage to save who never said thanks... did start to get old. So I mainly stick with just healing my group.

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You have a guild? In beta?

 

The next is not against you:
Are we that far? People take the virtual friendships into release or even from one game to another?
mmh, maybe.
For me it is just "new game = new people, new guild, new enemies". But if there are some people, who see it a bit more... "hardcore" is a nice word.
You can always use it, and people won´t realise the insult. It is like "If you really hate a fat guy, give him something to eat. He even thinks, that he is your friend."

Yep I have a guild in beta, been running my own guild since 1997, small group of us run from game to game to game playing together and having fun. We also add folks every game just like you and others like you who dont stick with the same folks, we also lose members every game of people who stay behind.

Some people play for fun, some people play to escape, others like me play socially with friends.