WAR (Warhammer Online)

I don't think WP's are that overpowered.  If they get to level 10 and get the renown 6 tier 2 keep gear then they can outshine many without it, but on a level playing field they aren't the beasts that people make them out to be.  DoK are about even with them, and for front line healers they work out pretty well.

Originally posted by Lilan

Originally posted by TheMaelstrom

Originally posted by coffee

Healers dont heal.. bah its true for all MMO's ... WAR is not and wont be any different.

 

No offense to you, coffee, but that's the most ridiculous thing I've read in a while.

I played a cleric in EQ1, and if you didn't heal you were utterly useless to anyone. You did practically zero damage even under ideal circumstances.

I also played a healer in WoW (gods help me...). I had a resto druid and a holy / disc priest. And again, if you weren't healing, you were of practically no use to anyone.

I dunno what MMOs you've been playing, but all of them have healers (or at least healing specs) that aren't good at anything EXCEPT healing.

In fact, WAR is the only MMO that IS actually different with almost all healer classes (save maybe the Runepriest and Zealot).

 

 

AGE OF CONAN healers soloing every thing

Age of Conan is to MMORPGs as KFC is to chicken.

Originally posted by sonictmp

Do even half of you guys understand how healers work in this game?

I've been playign a warrior priest. For straight up healing you need righteous fury. We have 3 heals at 10. ! is morale heal for abuot 550. 1minute cooldown. The other two heals are HoTs. They heal slowly, and for not that much. 400 over 15seconds and an instant 100+250 over 9 seconds. They take 30 and 60 RF points. We have a totalt of 250.

 

You know how fast I can drain my RF just by throwing out heals in RVR? You guys also know to build RF back up we need to go melee cause our skills generate RF? Also the fact we have a couple skills that heal our defensive target when we hit an enemy?

 

Seriously make a healer class or two and figure out how they work. It's not your trypical stay int he back and spam press your heal button. You have to be far more active and are required to micromanage combat, healing and targeting like crazy.

 

We are healing, we can't just stand there and spam heals like wow healers can.

I think we're all taking that in consideration.  Ya healers need to build up pools or waaagh to be more effective.  I think what the OP is talking about is just healers flat out not healing.. period.

Personally I dont expect them to unless Im grouped with them.  I dont expect joe shmo healer to be running around healing people outside of his group or focusing on everyone in RvR whos taking damage.  However, if im grouped with a healer or two Id expect to see at least one or two heals go off in my direction :P

I will say there are several healer careers that shouldnt be looked upon as a main healer or heal bot.  Warrior Priests and Disciples of Kain are two prime examples.

Originally posted by sonictmp

Do even half of you guys understand how healers work in this game?

I've been playign a warrior priest. For straight up healing you need righteous fury. We have 3 heals at 10. ! is morale heal for abuot 550. 1minute cooldown. The other two heals are HoTs. They heal slowly, and for not that much. 400 over 15seconds and an instant 100+250 over 9 seconds. They take 30 and 60 RF points. We have a totalt of 250.

 

You know how fast I can drain my RF just by throwing out heals in RVR? You guys also know to build RF back up we need to go melee cause our skills generate RF? Also the fact we have a couple skills that heal our defensive target when we hit an enemy?

 

Seriously make a healer class or two and figure out how they work. It's not your trypical stay int he back and spam press your heal button. You have to be far more active and are required to micromanage combat, healing and targeting like crazy.

 

We are healing, we can't just stand there and spam heals like wow healers can.

Quoted for being 'most insightful and accurate post of the whole thread'.

Originally posted by Herodes

Damage wins a duel, healers win a battle ;)

Duel my Defiler I had in EQ2

Depends on how well the healer is played :)

I know I keep asking to be healed and they just ignore you and hope you die because they get no reward for healing.

Originally posted by Monorojo

So i play a glass cannon, and have for several months now. One of the constants that I have ran into in scenarios and most open-world RvR events is that most healers simply do not heal. I do not understand why this is really. Warrior Priests (being insanely OP'd right now) seem to just jump into a crowd of 5-6 destro's and tear the place apart. DoKs are far more inclined to dish out pain than throw a heal to a Sorc standing right next to them.
 

Do these healers not realize they easily land #1 in PQs if you team with a DPS (especially a Sorc or BW with max darkmagic) and healhealheal? Do these healers not realize they get renown and XP in scenarios for healing?

 

I constantly see myself getting attacked, running back in front of a healer, and instead of healing....he attacks the guy who is pummeling me or simply ignored me. This often leads to death. I understand that healers are meant to do some damage as well, but PLEASE GOD for your own benefit and ours do your freakin job. Heal damn it, heal!

I run with a guild group, and occasionally attempt to heal folks outside the group... but most people jump around like fish out of water making it rather tough to attempt to save them.

Not only that... but about the 20th or 30th person who's ass I did manage to save who never said thanks... did start to get old. So I mainly stick with just healing my group.

Originally posted by ProfRed

It just depends.  Right now in preview weekend i've found a couple things different than in closed beta.

1) Healers don't heal anywhere near as much.  I think a huge part of it is the shadow priest wowtards coming in.  Or people are just not used to having a combat and friendly target and actively healing.  When I am a healer I pick a friend before the fight, usually a Sorc or Bright Wizard, and I fight and keep them alive longer than me every time.  Over time people will realize this.  The biggest problem is on the destruction side.

2) Destruction side on the two servers I played doesn't give a crap about objectives.  They just Zerg.  I held off a group of 5 Order players at Lost Lagoon for over 10 minutes, shouting, regioning, and asking in my Warband of 22 for backup and no one came at all.  They just kept Zerging.  A small group of Order took all objectives in the RvR zone and our Zerg had theirs pushed back to their outpost.  They just didn't give a crap.  It wasn't like this at the other two RvR zones though so thank god for that.

These things make me glad that I am going to be going Order primarily.  I will have a couple of Destruction alts, but right now it seems like the people going Destruction aren't team players.  Still this will change over time.  No one likes to lose forever, and people will realize quickly that this isn't a game like WoW where you can run off solo and get things done.  Without teamwork you fail in this game, and that is what I love about it.  You just have to find a good team.

Hehe...ya the healers dont heal much. Also alot of order players (guildie and friends that I know of) will go to destruction at launch. We played order just so we get the power and feel of the how order plays and wont get bored / burned out when the game launch with the same of stuff again

Originally posted by Rayana

Originally posted by sonictmp

Do even half of you guys understand how healers work in this game?

I've been playign a warrior priest. For straight up healing you need righteous fury. We have 3 heals at 10. ! is morale heal for abuot 550. 1minute cooldown. The other two heals are HoTs. They heal slowly, and for not that much. 400 over 15seconds and an instant 100+250 over 9 seconds. They take 30 and 60 RF points. W