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ammonite 8/06/08 5:11:59 PM
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Be Warned
K2 run a ruthlessly controlled forum that hides issues if they make the game look a bit less than perfect.
Play but don’t pay.
I like being involved in the game community, but not this one. It’s just a marketing tool.
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byte1918 8/06/08 5:24:53 PM
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Joined: 5/12/06
Life is a tragedy for those who feel , life is a comedy for those who think. |
What proof do you have to backup your statement.. I'm a regular forum reader , and I never felt that k2 tried to hide anything from me. Keep in mind that when you joined the forums (sotwn forum) , and you created your account , you agreed with the "Terms and Conditions" ("We have the ability to remove objectionable messages and we will make every effort to do so, within a reasonable time frame, if we determine that removal is necessary." ) , and also keep in mind that (this may sound clisheish) using a forum is a privilege and not a right. If they think the material (post/thread) is abusive , they reserve the right to remove it.
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ammonite 8/06/08 6:04:44 PM
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And if the material is not offensive or abusive and it addresses the issue of Bots and Goldfarmers ruining the game, and a lack of AMs in game to address / help players with issues? Whatever the Ts&Cs say about the forum, if it is being used as a marketing tool by K2 it is not a forum it's just a message board.
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byte1918 8/06/08 7:09:09 PM
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Joined: 5/12/06
Life is a tragedy for those who feel , life is a comedy for those who think. |
from what I know k2 doesn't let people post incriminating screenshots or conversations.. if this was the case... also maybe someone started calling names or flaming ... guess I seem to take their side now.. but I'm just trying to remain impartial.
"...make the game look a bit less than perfect." Well.. each game is imperfect in a way or other.. and every MMORPG has a problem with game botters , exploiters , abusers , hackers , scammmers. I repeat .. Every Game..
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jmerriex 8/06/08 8:32:09 PM
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Joined: 5/07/07
I found my voice, show me how to use it." ~From Cowboys and Angels by David Gleeson |
Are you sure you are not confused here. Do a search before posting and "MAYBE" we won't outright delete posts. There are a number of threads talking about EXACTLY what you were talking about in EVERY ONE of your posts. I know we are all delicate snowflakes but new topics should probably include... a new topic. Edit: My response is directed to the OP who had a very unfortunate event occur and never bothered to take the time to submit a ticket for us to help them. |
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trancejeremy 8/06/08 8:35:08 PM
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Joined: 1/30/08 |
I've had a couple comments removed or locked on the official boards as well, so it's not exactly a new occurance. It's their boards, they can do what they want, I guess. |
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EbonHawk 8/06/08 8:42:45 PM
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Joined: 5/30/07 |
Originally posted by jmerriex Wow and your an Associate Producer? With this kind of an attitude and lack of professionalism I sure as hell won't be chomping at the bit to try your game. |
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ammonite 8/06/08 9:05:25 PM
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(This is following Byte1918s post, I could'nt figure out how to append it) That maybe so in other MMORPGs. But this is the first game I've played where those in control of the main forum repeatedly delete posts that call for extra help in game, to moderate a recognised problem. The posts called for extra AMs to be added. How can that possibly offend forum rules? If you message an AM in game, they are prepared to come to your location and investigate a bot or gold farmer. Unfortunately they are very rarely available. When a highly experienced goldfarmer is clearing an area full of new players and there is no AM support. Should the players just log out if they find it upsetting? Don't forget, to call for assistance in game you pay ( a lot for a beginner ) and to login in to the website and work your way through the Support Ticket system takes a lot of time and is also not beginner friendly, not withstanding that your not going to be playing the game while your 'assisting' K2 with the problem. Also, your not attended to with any priority (days) unless your a recent cash shop user. K2 need to add AMs or sort out the ingame report / support. They also need to cull Fanboi moderation as it is not helping the community grow. ps. they don't have this level of gold farming in Guildwars, but there they have a report system. |
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Pyrostasis 8/06/08 9:09:25 PM
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Joined: 8/14/04
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Only issue I ever had with the forums was getting perma banned on my main forum account for descent and running a 3rd party website that was unmoderated where players were able to say what they felt. From time to time the Community manager at the time would request that I edit a post here and there to keep things a bit more balanced. Things were fine till I agreed with a poster and didnt edit a post she wanted, at that point I was informed my website would be removed from the SOTNW official forums, anyone posting about it would get it removed, and possibly action against their account, and my posts were then moderated by her. I was a regular poster on the site, helped folks, and of course spoke my opinion... being moderated... well... no more posts were "approved" positive or negative, I sent her a pm and said, well if your just going to not post anything I say, why not just ban me? And she did... Neume (Jmerix) over all was a good guy from what I could tell. He was in a shitty position as his bosses were incredibly out of touch with the player community, wouldnt communicate, wouldnt listen, and general just drove most of the players at the time away. Recently Neume seem's to have gotten promoted and is more in control of things, and from what I can tell has turned the game around... basically everything folks like me screamed over and quit due to back last november has been rectified. However, my forum accounts still banned, and that whole ordeal has left a rather bad taste in my mouth. I dont go around replying to every SOTNW thread giving my opinion anymore, but I may just try the game out again to see what all has changed.... and maybe the mods over there will finally decide to restore my forum status. |
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jaxsundane 8/10/08 9:10:55 PM
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