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Hydrakana  8/22/08 6:23:46 AM

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Originally posted by Malickiebloo
Originally posted by Hydrakana
Originally posted by Die_Scream
Originally posted by bigplanet
Originally posted by Malickiebloo

Add WOW to that head count please, It sucks just as much as any of the others.

 

Look, it is not cool to hate WOW like your friends told you.

To be fair, lotro shouldn't be there either. Everything else looks right.

 

Not to derail, but I have to agree. WoW is a great game, and people play for years, then bitch it sucks.  People grow out of it, after having a blast for so long, then join the hate - WoW crowd.  Sorry, this bothers me.

 

/resume thread.

 

 

Weird how this happens.

 

Some ex wow players even go to the extent of denying they even played the game so they can join the disgruntled UO/EQ vet (sore losers) in their bias hatred.

Never was a fan of wow or highfantasy in general , Played till 30 and couldn't take it any longer. Get your facts straight I am a disgruntled SWG vet .

I played SWG for 3 years now EVE online and Ryzom(Which just reopened), Not hard to figure out why I don't like WOW.

Ahh yes, the SWG vet...forgot about that bubbling cauldron of angry player base.

 

So...if Blizzard made a MASSIVE Stacraft mmo..you would play it right? I know I would.

 
Azrile  8/22/08 6:29:56 AM

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Any new or returning player to WOW, send me a PM for some help getting started.

Everybody hates 'the man'.   If you are super successful finanically, you either  sold out or are playing to the least common denominator (ie.. the kiddies).

WOW will continue to have niche' competitors in the same way MS WIndows does.   The teenage angst/coffee house people will point out every minor flaw in WOW while propping up far inferior products because they are 'unique and new'.

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Kilmar  8/22/08 6:31:22 AM

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Originally posted by Jefferson81
Originally posted by Teiman

Is a joke, who care if is slighty unaccurate?

 

please remove lotro from that image.


 

I consider LOTRO a failure.

Do you know why?

Less than 200k subs isn't good enough in these days.

LOTRO's +150k subs might be good enough for the ones who loves and plays it but to me it's just a failure.

And... as I said in the other thread, DDO, MxO and possibly SWG should be added to the trophy heads.


 

Only 1 MMO has more subs (wow), so there's only 1 good MMO and the rest is crap? Good theory

Jefferson81  8/22/08 6:34:40 AM

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Originally posted by Kilmar
Originally posted by Jefferson81
Originally posted by Teiman

Is a joke, who care if is slighty unaccurate?

 

please remove lotro from that image.


 

I consider LOTRO a failure.

Do you know why?

Less than 200k subs isn't good enough in these days.

LOTRO's +150k subs might be good enough for the ones who loves and plays it but to me it's just a failure.

And... as I said in the other thread, DDO, MxO and possibly SWG should be added to the trophy heads.


 

Only 1 MMO has more subs (wow), so there's only 1 good MMO and the rest is crap? Good theory


 

Lineage 1 & 2 has a few million subs between them.

Final Fantasy XI has close to a million I think.

LOTRO is at the bottom of the barrel for pay to play MMOs really.

 
ebonfire  8/22/08 6:37:24 AM

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SWG definitely more of a victim to WoW than any of the games that launched after WoW imo.  Amusing image though.

Dark and Light -  Tons of technical problems with the game, and never really became a fraction of what it was supposed to be.

Archlord - Horrible grinder with little western appeal.. niche game at best.

Tabula Rasa - Over hyped, one dimensional, more of a sci-fi niche game in todays market.

Pirates of the Burning Seas - Never had broad appeal, niche game.

Vanguard - Expected themselves to steal some of the hardcore crowd (core gamer) from WoW, but never expected to be in the ballpark for subscribers.  Bugs and lack of content hurt when directly compared to WoW.  Really another niche game that over time refined itself to have a broader appeal to the average gamer.

Lord of the Rings Online -  Couldn't compete, but I personally believe it would be the standard on the market if WoW didn't exist.

CoH / CoV - Lack of endgame and crappy loot tables damaged the game when compared to WoW, but it has and always will be a niche game.

AoC - expected to compete on some level, but the state the it launched in has forever damaged the reputation of the game.  I think that EQ2 and other smaller market games lost a lot of ground when AoC was released.

Ok so if anything I think that the polish of WoW hurt everything that launched in a crappy state, but otherwise none of those games expected to chip away much at WoW subscriber base.  It would be a stretch to say that any game has been developed to offer gameplay that would rival the broad player market that WoW had targeted with its "donut" concept of game development.  Niche games look to target a different audience imo.  I could be way off, I don't know. :p

 
sadnebula  8/22/08 7:20:22 AM

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LMAO, good job

 
Shol  8/22/08 8:54:07 AM

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Malickie  8/22/08 3:37:45 PM

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Originally posted by Hydrakana

Ahh yes, the SWG vet...forgot about that bubbling cauldron of angry player base.

 

So...if Blizzard made a MASSIVE Stacraft mmo..you would play it right? I know I would.

Possibly given I enjoyed what they created , I don't really have a problem with Blizzard . I just don't like WOW or many other fantasy games in general.


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Neverknow  8/22/08 3:44:07 PM

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Originally posted by Jefferson81
Originally posted by Kilmar
Originally posted by Jefferson81
Originally posted by Teiman

Is a joke, who care if is slighty unaccurate?

 

please remove lotro from that image.


 

I consider LOTRO a failure.

Do you know why?

Less than 200k subs isn't good enough in these days.

LOTRO's +150k subs might be good enough for the ones who loves and plays it but to me it's just a failure.

And... as I said in the other thread, DDO, MxO and possibly SWG should be added to the trophy heads.


 

Only 1 MMO has more subs (wow), so there's only 1 good MMO and the rest is crap? Good theory


 

Lineage 1 & 2 has a few million subs between them.

Final Fantasy XI has close to a million I think.

LOTRO is at the bottom of the barrel for pay to play MMOs really.


 

Anarchy Online has roughly 20k total subscribers, paid and froob. So I'd say it's at the bottom of the barrel, not LotRO. Oh, wait. AO is a Funcom game. Surprise.

 
Rebn77  8/22/08 3:59:20 PM